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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:28 PM
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Warren: Gays are promiscuous, lack maturity (It's NOT just a two-minute prayer!)
Megachurch pastor Rick Warren, President-elect Obama's controversial pick to deliver the invocation on Inauguration Day, suggested to NBC's Ann Curry in a Dateline interview due to air Friday that same-sex inclinations need to be "reined in" regardless of their biological basis. It's a matter of "maturity," he said.

http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/Warren_Promiscuous_gays_lack_m_1219.html

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Do you see now how this is not "just a prayer"? The man is getting free air time and will continue to get free air-time to "explain" his side of the controversy until the inauguration itself.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:31 PM
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1. allow me, as a straight guy, to tell you that it is just a prayer and to calm down. nt
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:36 PM
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4. This straight guy thinks you have no clue as to how offensive Rick Warren is to this non religious
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 12:36 PM by sarcasmo
person as well as to Women and the GLBT community.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:40 PM
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12. allow me, as a straight guy, to tell you that the outrage is justified.
calling bigotry a "prayer" actually makes it worse, because it claims the awesome force of god supports the hatred.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:23 PM
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31. well said...and straight to the point of what it is that concerns me so much
about our nation's apparent need to drag religion into our political debates.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:46 PM
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18. ...at the most historical inauguration of our time?
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 12:50 PM by liberalmuse
No, this hetero woman, will NOT calm down as long as bigots like this are given front-and-center stage by people who should know better.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:24 PM
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34. Hahahahaha just calm down?
Aloow me as a gay man to tell you how much your opinion is worth :boring:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:07 PM
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38. Oh boy...
You'll post anything to get a reaction.

(There's a word for that.)
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:11 PM
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40. Sorry that we faggots are getting a little uppity, being second class citizens will do that.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:12 PM
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46. If you don't want to be referred to as a faggot, I suggest...
you refrain from such self-assignment.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:46 PM
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53. To some, not all, mind you, but some--ownership of the word is a tactic.
Uppity faggots unite!

Or uppity queers, uppity mo's

Thanks, btw, for the advice....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:41 PM
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:33 PM
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2. I see it's time to dust off "Let It Sink"
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:37 PM
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7. Shall we dust off "House Dorothy" while we're at it, then?
What is so outlandish about the post?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:38 PM
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9. What's a House Dorothy?
And does she have a sister? (Or at my age, maybe I should start asking if she has a single aunt)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:40 PM
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11. She's pretty much a wallflower and keeps to herself at parties of her 'own kind'
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:41 PM
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13. Well I think everyone needs to know what a bigot Warren is...
There is no way in hell I am going to let this sink, because we need to do everything we can to show just how repulsive Warren is.

That is why I am kicking this thread, and I hope a lot of other people reply to your comment so they can kick this thread as well.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:06 PM
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22. I prefer "Let it build"
Let it build.

Let it become a deafening roar. Make his ears ring.

Let the voices of angry gays, of women, of straight people and men who care for those not like them, of young people who know bullshit when they see it, of old people who have seen it all before and are not going to take it any more, become so loud that no one, anywhere, can fail to understand what Rick Warren is and and how Obama has failed us here.

Let that roar join the roar of union workers should Obama try to throw the auto workers under the bus or sign off on any more "free" trade agreements. Let it mingle with the teachers and parents and students who've had enough of teach to the test. Let it join that of soldiers, the families of soldiers, and peace activists if Obama seeks to "compromise" on peace, and the victims of the failure to enforce the Constitution (whether they be from the "war on terror" or the "war on drugs" or any future "war") and civil libertarians of all stripes, if Obama "compromises" the Constitution.

Let the world hear "NO". Let the world hear "HELL NO".

If Obama wants to compromise, fine. Make him compromise with us, not with the Right that caused this mess we're in and whose policies, even in small measure, are poison that prolongs this crisis and extends the misery of so many people.

Silence will get us nowhere.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:19 PM
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26. A fine post, thank you!
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madmadmad Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 11:40 PM
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51. HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOO! love your post- bring on the roar!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:34 PM
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3. recommend
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:36 PM
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5. I've taken heart from the three or four threads posted in the last week...
...in which a DUer publically admits that they at first were shruggy about the Warren choice, but came to see how truly offensive it is as a result of fellow DUers posting their protests against this bad invitation.

I have yet to see a formerly insulted DUer come back and post "Sorry that I was against Warren at first, but on further reflection, I trust Obama's bridge building strategy will work better for gay rights in the long run."

It takes a while to move people toward equal rights under the law; but once they get there they tend to stay on the moral high ground.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:36 PM
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6. I saw this morinng on YOuTube and freaked out...
THis man has no clue.

Kicked and Recommended
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:37 PM
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8. k&r
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:38 PM
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10. Warren is a fucking creep. nt
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:42 PM
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14. Thank you.
Anyone watching that interview - and those opinions - needs to remind themselves it's being broadcast and seen by all their viewers courtesy of Obama.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:42 PM
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15. Promiscuous, but they won't let us have a monogamous marriage?
What fucking hypocrites.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:44 PM
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16. That's the fundy plan for us in a nutshell.
Don't let us couple up and when we do have sex, call us promiscuous.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 12:53 AM
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54. Duh
We're supposed to have replete, celibate, lonely, loveless, lives because that's what God would want.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:14 PM
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47. Nice fix they like to put you in, huh? nt
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:44 PM
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17. Promiscuous? Yep, fuck Rick Warren and yes, Obama too.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:47 PM
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19. This is horrible.
I can't believe the message this is sending out right now. I hope there is a very serious backlash in the press.

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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:52 PM
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21. Rick Warren Bans Gays from his Church.
Obama should drop him from the line up immediately.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:50 PM
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20. K&R!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:11 PM
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23. It's much more than that, Bluebear.
Forever after Inaugural Day, Warren can use those two minutes to justify the anti-American poison he peddles. That's what Obama is signing off on.

For him to say it's a "matter of maturity" is simply mendacious because he knows damn well how important that invitation is to his stature and, indeed, to repair the standing of the radical right wing hucksters who use religion as their vehicle.

The Democrats are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again, as far as I can see.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:21 PM
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28. The videoclip of Warren praying will be used for decades to ask for $$$
"The President's Pastor!"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:23 PM
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30. Exactly. And, btw, I didn't mean to tell YOU how big this is
lol. I'm just processing it myself, sorry.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:12 PM
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24. You're right. It's probably about a minute and thrity seconds actually.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:20 PM
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27. Yes, it's clear you are not on the side of gays & lesbians on this issue.
Your snarky, oh-so-witty posts are populating all over threads like a honeybee. Thank you.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:22 PM
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29. You don't speak for "gays & lesbians."
Neither do I.

You speak for you, I speak for me.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:22 PM
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33. you also speak against gays
from what I've seen of your miserable posts
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:03 PM
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37. he represents our views nicely, thank you.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:13 PM
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25. Translation: promiscuious...
.... getting more ass than I am.

These people are so transparent. Both the gay and abortion deals aren't about anything other than sexual jealousy.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:06 PM
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32. Well, you certainly lack maturity.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:26 PM
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35. Bluebear, you don't deserve a personal attack like this.
:patriot:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:25 PM
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41. She's mad that I put her on ignore so she can't write me psychopathic personal messages anymore :(
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:09 PM
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39. Your snide comment is what is "immature".
.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:10 PM
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:33 PM
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36. kick.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:28 PM
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42. now it is clear
that gays are like pedophiles because gays have the maturity of children, therefore when they have sex they are having sex with an adult who has the maturity of a child, a mentally handicapped person, so if you establish the legal precedent that gays are like kids in mental maturity all their sex becomes illegal pedophilia.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:29 PM
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43. Just grow up
and only get turned on by people of the opposite sex you lousy juvenile queers.

That is what the good preacher is telling millions of our fellow citizens.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:03 PM
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44. What would Christ himself think of Rick Warren?

He calls gays promiscuous, yet bans them from attending his church. This sounds blatantly anti-Christian to anyone who would follow what Christ really stood for.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:15 PM
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48. I agree
Jesus was nothing if not inclusive and accepting. The idea that someone could be somehow innately sinful - just by the nature of who they are - that's just totally opposed to his teachings.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:54 PM
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49. I don't understand why his ideas frighten so many people.
He is clearly wrong.

The more he speaks the more credibility he loses.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:25 PM
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50. Ok play time is over
this is enough already. Warren on that platform means no quatter. Obama is just an idiot to empower this man.
I remember what Obama said about Don Imus's hate filled joke. I guess Obama really can not see his utter self service and hypocrisy. Imus is an enertainer. Obama and I agreed that he should be fired. But now this slur spewing hate monger comes after others, speaking under the color of the divine, presuming to so speak for God. Not a joke. In the name of God. Obama needs to think and send this bigot on down the yellow brick road.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:13 AM
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55. "Gays are promiscuous", are they?
I just love the absolute stupidity and lack of logic from nazis. If they're "promiscuous", then why not let them marry so they can form stable relationships? :eyes:


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