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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:35 PM
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The director of the CIA in the pool of a Saudi prince, ranting drunkenly about neocons and Jews?
Priceless!

:rofl:


Book: Tenet drunkenly mocked Bush neocons, right-wing Israelis

Mike Sheehan
Published: Wednesday December 17, 2008

Swimming trunks? $25. Bottle of fine scotch? $60.

The director of the CIA in the pool of a Saudi prince, ranting drunkenly about neocons and Jews? Priceless.

In a scene described in the upcoming Patrick Tyler book A World of Trouble, former CIA director George Tenet was visiting the house of Prince Bandar bin Sultan when he allegedly let loose after imbibing on whiskey, reports Jeffrey Goldberg on his blog at The Atlantic.

Tenet, Tyler writes, was in Bandar's swimming pool complaining loudly about Bush administration officials "who were just then trying to pin the Iraq WMD fiasco on him."

After quickly consuming half of a bottle of scotch given to him by one of Bandar's servants, Tenet said, "They're setting me up. The bastards are setting me up, <but> I am not going to take the hit."

<more>

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Book_Tenet_drunkenly_mocked_Bush_neocons_1217.html


Full story from The Atlantic here:
http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/12/george_tenet_drunk_in_bandars.php


I'm glad I'm young enough so that I'll be able to see and enjoy the entire story coming out over the next decades!

Now pass the whiskey!

:beer:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:39 PM
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1. And those of us who post about the powerful elite being too cozy w/House of Saud and Dubai royals
are too often accused here of wearing tinfoil.

Wake up America....demand your government open the books on the last 40 plus years of BushInc's agenda with those Royal Fascists.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:44 PM
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2. I thought alcohol was a no-no there...
So it appears that we're dealing with a bunch of murdering fascists who live by the rule of "Do as I say, not as I do!"
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:49 PM
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9. It seems in the Islamic world the same law applies as everywhere else- -
the rich do whatever they want.
Many of these fine sheik folks spend lots of oil money in European casinos, and some even have the bad taste to come to Vegas.

mark
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:55 PM
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10. Indeed. What I've seen them spend on whisky in England is obscene.
One bottle of whisky for over 20,000 pounds. No object. Sheesh!
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:22 PM
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23. It could have been his house in Aspen
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:46 PM
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3. I thought booze was forbidden in Saudi Arabia.
Oh well I guess it goes to show that there are different rules for the ruling classes from the rest of the peasants there too.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:51 PM
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4. The Saudi royalty spends a lot of time on the Riviera...
... drining booze and bedding attractive women while on their 300-foot yachts.

They seem to give as much respect to Islam as neocons do to Christianity. A useful tool to get and keep power, but not something to actually believe in.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:06 PM
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14. IOKIURASP
(it's ok if you are a saudi prince)

:P
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:54 PM
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5. YCMTSU. Comedy writers all over the country are going to miss the Bush administration.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:37 PM
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24. That's what Stephanie Miller's been saying
That comedians everywhere won't have as much to work with in an Obama administration. Oh well, there's always the reich wing talking heads that will be making fools out of themselves on a daily basis.
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:56 PM
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6. wait wait..
the Saudi royal family has alcohol in their house? Off with their heads!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:27 PM
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7. Is this story a slam-dunk? n/t
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:56 PM
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11. More like a slammed drunk. n/t
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:31 PM
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8. Can't belie...wow...jesus...our "leadership" are nothing but frat boys...
If this is the type of sophisticated analysis and thinking that gets you top jobs in the US then everything that happened the past eight years makes so much sense.

I mean, "the Jews", really? REALLY? People at the top are so desperately ignorant it makes me sick. I wonder if he was caught ranting about the illuminati later on in the evening while in the hot tub.

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:57 PM
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21. Doubtful he'd talk about the Illuminati...
since by "Jews" he was specifically referring to the mostly Jewish -- and all-too-real -- neocons. It's not right, it's not nice, but he was talking about a real group.

And if he complained about "Saudis," wouldn't that be an ethnic slur, since the Saudi ruling family is not all Saudis, etc. etc.? And yet this thread is full of invective against "Saudis" and no one minds.

Anyway, fuck Tenet, fuck the CIA and all the spook agencies, fuck the neocons, fuck the Saudis, fuck the Texas war and oil mafia... anyone I'm missing?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:58 PM
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22. "Right-wing Jews" are not 'the Jews'....

the same can be said for right-wing Christians and right-wing Muslims.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:48 PM
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25. Yes, but the failure to make this distinction is frequent...
in conversation, it can even be innocent. One often speaks of the "Americans" when one means the policy-makers.

(This isn't to conclude anything about what Tenet may have meant, or if this incident even took place, given that we're in the spook realm of mirrors and smoke.)
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:27 PM
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26. The problem also comes about when the right-wing takes control of government....

the wingnut Christian Right threatened to do this during the Bush reign, the Likud Party in Israel, alliance with the former Muslim Brotherhood in Saudi Arabia and other Arabian states. Neoconservatives are often linked to Likudniks.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:42 PM
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27. Why can't we just let the right wings fight each other?
That's all they seem to want to do.

Innocent bystanders should be defined as innocent people standing by, not as 'collateral damage' for some desert death cult's magical theatre of the insane.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:49 PM
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28. Um, neocons basically are Likudniks...
just as Bush family means spooks, oil and banking.

Anyway, people rarely said things like, "the Soviet one-party state then sent arms to support the Angolan rebels." More frequently you'd see: "The Russians intervened..."
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:18 PM
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31. I would disagree with the first statement...

Neocons are largely American and Likudniks are Israeli. There may be few ideological differences, but the alliance does reflect the lowest common denominator where it comes to hawkish foreign policy between the two nations.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:53 PM
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32. It's more incestuous than that...
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 03:59 PM by JackRiddler
The neocons are not a very big group. We can probably list a significant portion of them on a single page. Their personnel circulate freely between Israeli and US-based think tanks. They espouse the same program to each other at international conferences on the latest "terror threat." Example: Perle writes reports on "Securing the Realm" for Netanyahu, then sets up shop as the chair of the Pentagon advisory board under Rumsfeld (while also in the traditional way running Trireme, a consultancy/investment fund to profit from his connections).

In general, there is significant back-and-forth emigration between the US and Israel, to a greater extent than with any other country (the legal flow is usually one-way immigration to the states). The majority of this particular community (i.e., the back-and-forth emigrants) tends to be very right-wing and nationalist. I don't think it's unfair to say that those who specifically coined "neocon" as a term or describe themselves as such tend to be from or close to this particular community.

The neocon-Likudniks are a single network of significant coherence and intellectual provenance (largely coming out of Wohlstetter and "Team B") and not separable into national categories based on whatever address they have or hat they wear at the moment. For them, one matter of faith is that Israel simply is part of America in the Middle East, they don't see a difference. If there is an alliance, then with the Bush-centered "rogue CIA" (aka Iran-Contra/Enterprise) and the members of the "Safari Group" (includes the Saudis and various right-wing spook elements around the world, was set up by Papa Bush back in the 1970s).

Of course it's a gross oversimplification and probably indicative of anti-Semitic views to refer to the neocons simply as "the Jews," if that is really what Tenet did.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 04:09 PM
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33. The Safari Club is particularly disturbing...

this could be the deepest alliance between all three groups promoting conflict and warfare as a way to bring about the New World Order where the elite become all-powerful.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:59 PM
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12. So, instead of taking the hit, he took the Medal of Freedom?
He is a piece of garbage. :mad:

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:04 PM
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13. Why in the FUCK is the head of the CIA in the Saudi's pool?
Much less drunk and high. Much much less ranting against "the Jews"!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:14 PM
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15. Oh, the Saudis are just innocent by-standers.
Don't worry your head over this, think of it as a frat party where they served really expensive scotch.

:sarcasm:

:argh:

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:51 PM
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20. All very good points!
If he's been caught in Ahmadinejad's pool, drunk, high, and ranting against "the Jews", it would be the scandal of the century. But it's somehow different when it's the Saudis.

Not that the UK is all that clean when it comes to relations with Saudi royalty, either.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 02:56 PM
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29. The Saudi ambassador's residence and CIA Langley are practically on top of each other.
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 03:08 PM by arcadian
In Mclean.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:37 PM
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16. Talk about deflection
There isn't a single post here relevant to the OP

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:07 PM
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17. There isn't.
Please explain.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:21 PM
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18. Give the man a medal!!!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:48 PM
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19. Not surprised that the Saudi royals are antisemitic; but I AM surprised ...
that they would be serving people bottles of Scotch!

Isn't that the sort of thing that ordinary Saudis would be thrown into a deep dark dungeon for?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:02 PM
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30. Here is Prince Bandar's residence and pool:
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