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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:07 PM
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Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg would make an excellent U.S. Senator.
For one, she would continue the work of her father and uncles.
And she might fulfill the expectations so many held for her brother.



Who knows what the future holds? If Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg excels as a U.S. Senator,
she might become the first woman to serve as President of the United States.

One thing I believe is certain: People who've been missing progressive, liberal Democratic leadership
will appreciate her sincere dedication to the United States should she serve in any government office.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:10 PM
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1. Is she leaning back in her chair there? Those legs could go right out from under her
I agree
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:15 PM
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2. The camera was not level. She is on the level, though...
Who better to continue the work of her slain father?



Thank you for grokking, burythehatchet:

President Kennedy did a darn good job as a leader.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:38 PM
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9. Intelligence. Star Power. Constitutional Scholar.
And she shut Wolf Blitzer up with one sentence, something I've never seen any one do.

She has worked for the people of New York for many years. quietly.

And of course, she is the daughter of John F Kennedy.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:01 PM
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11. The Star Factor is vital today...
In order to get the attention amid the noise generated by Corporate McPravda's continuous and inane media storm.

People pay attention when the quiet, kind and intelligent person speaks.

And that is what America needs.



We've seen an entire generations raised on Reagan and Bush. And the country is in a real jam, to put it kindly, thanks to them.

We need some real leadership to get us moving forward.

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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:06 PM
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12. Thank you for pointing out her kindness. So much civility
has been lost. Some say it left with Bobby.

"One small candle lights a corner of the darkness."
Roger Waters
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:07 PM
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13. The Star Factor sucks in my opinion
That said, of course she'll make an amazing Senator, but I'm sorry, Mr. Smith truly can't go to Washington anymore.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:20 PM
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3. I agree-Caroline would be an excellent choice.
I did really want RFK Jr. to be given that Senate position or to head the EPA. But it's not to be and I'm not sure why.

However, Caroline is equally an excellent choice. :thumbsup:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:30 PM
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6. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. would also make an excellent Senator.


I heard Robert Kennedy Jr. speak about 16 months ago at Wayne State University in Detroit. Yeah! He ripped Bush and his cronies new ones. The crowd -- students, academics, professionals and workers -- went wild. RFK Jr. indicated he had considered running for the U.S. Senate, but stopped when Hillary Clinton declared her candidacy. He endorsed Hillary for President, but said he thought Obama would also make an excellent President. I believe Bobby certainly would make an excellent Senator or EPA Administrator. I hoped he would become President Obama's Attorney General.

Thank you for grokking, TheGoldenRule: Caroline would
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:23 PM
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4. Didn't she drop the Schlossberg?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:32 PM
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7. She never changed her name. n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:36 PM
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8. Don't know about the last name use. She's still married to the lucky fellow.


Don't know much about him. Sounds like a great guy.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:46 AM
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23. too bad, because "Castle mountain" is totally apropo
for a member of the Royal Family.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:30 PM
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5. I agree. I think she is far more ...
knowledgeable about American Politics than I could ever hope to be.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 11:42 PM
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15. Her grandfather Joseph Kennedy wanted everyone at the table to be aware of world events.
The sons and daughters of Joseph P. Kennedy were encouraged to state and uphold their positions in debate. They received the best educations available. It showed in the family's ideals of patriotism, excellence and public service.

Many remember the story of Caroline's father's bravery in World War II, when John F. Kennedy helped save his men after a destroyer rammed and sank PT-109. In addition to his father, JFK looked up to his big brother, Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., a guy who was "expected" to be the politician in the family.





After PT-109 was rammed and sunk by the Japanese destroyer, JFK and a couple of his men collected the nine survivors of a crew of eleven on the floating bow of the boat. Some were seriously burned and injured from the collision, which occurred in the middle of a moonless night.

When morning light finally came, JFK led the several mile swim to a nearby island. JFK pulled the most severely wounded man by holding the man's lifejacket strap in his teeth.

Later that night, JFK took a lantern and swam out into the shark-infested channel, hoping to signal a passing ship. He did it again the next night, but was too sick to go the third. His XO, if memory serves, swam out. Again, no luck.

The next day, they were contacted by local people. They took a message JFK carved onto a coconut to an Australian coastal watcher. Within hours, they were rescued.

Joe Sr. hated war. Before it started, the Ambassador to England did all he could to keep America out of it. He remembered, from what I understand, what happened during World War I, when millions of the world's youth were sacrificed by idiotic generals as cannon fodder in Europe. He did not want his, or anybody else's sons, to die when conflicts could be resolved through peaceful means.

Unfortunately, war came. And World War II would claim the life of Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. The Presidents big brother (2 years?) was the one being groomed for a life in politics by The Old Man. A very brave and conscientious young man, here's how young Joe died in World War II:

After completing his tour as pilot of a US Navy B-24 Liberator on anti-submarine warfare patrol from 1943-44, Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. volunteered for a top-secret mission in which he would pilot an experimental version of the 4-engine bomber. It was called Project APHRODITE.

Kennedys job was to get the ship airborne from its airfield in Great Britain, point it toward Europe, and bail out over the countryside. Sounds simple, but it was anything but. It was state-of-the-art science, engineering, and warfare.

The plan was called: Operation Aphrodite. The objective was to knock out the V-2 sites along the coast of France. Developed by Werner von Braun and his team at Peenemnde, the first ballistic missiles were raining death upon London. The allies were worried that if the Nazis continued developing their super-weapons, the V-2s descendants would be delivering bombs possibly atomic to New York City.

Joe Kennedys plane was among a few Liberators and Flying Fortresses modified for a very early version of remote control. The ship, basically, was a flying bomb. The entire fuselage was filled with Torpex and gelignite, IIRC, and was to be armed by a rather elaborate, if not dangerous, electronic arming panel.

Like something out of Buck Rogers, the Navy equipped the airplane with a primitive 2-channel remote-control pilot. One radio signal could make the plane dive and climb and another signal could make it turn left and right. A prototype video camera would also send information to the Mother Ship, where the remote pilot sat before a tiny TV monitor.

Once Kennedy and his fellow volunteer pilots were needed to get the flying bombs airborne. One over the English countryside, scientists and engineers would take over and signal on two radio frequencies: One to turn the stick RIGHT or LEFT; or push the stick FORWARD or pull the stick BACK. Primitive today, they were the first remote-controlled weapon of mass destruction.

Joe Kennedy and the other volunteer pilots and bombadiers also were needed to arm the weapon. One aloft, they were to turn on the radio-guidance controls, arm the flying bomb, and bail out at about ONE THOUSAND FEET. The Mother Ship would follow two miles or so back and then fly it over the English Channel and guide it down into the rocket launch sites.

The tragedy was that the Navy ship used a rather primitive arming panel. The co-pilot refused to fly and instead the Navy sent aloft the engineer who designed or installed the system. Over the English countryside, the ship exploded, killing the two flyers and changing American political history. Joe's younger brother John Fitzgerald Kennedy then became the heir to the family's political ambitions.

History shows JFK made an outstanding President. He saved the world from nuclear annihilation during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He stretched mankinds reach to the moon, never living himself to see the impossible accomplished. He even used the NAZI rocket scientist who developed the V-2 to do so. The same von Braun who the allied air command sent his lost brother, Joseph, to destroy.

-- Octafish

# # #

Two outstanding books on the subject of Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. and his service in World War II:

Aphrodite: Desperate Mission by Jack Olsen

and

The Lost Prince: Young Joe, the Forgotten Kennedy by Hank Searls.

PS: Thanks for reminding us of today, October. I really appreciate it.



Don't sell yourself short, stillcool47. If you're hip to who she is and what she represents, you're way ahead of the curve.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 05:36 PM
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36. Her grandfather wanted us to accommodate Hitler. nt
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:49 PM
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10. Her actual name is Caroline Kennedy nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 11:50 PM
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16. They're both good names.
Schlossberg is a pioneer in the digital arts. From what I know, the guy's been a good husband and father.

I can only imagine how difficult it must've have been for Caroline's suitors to live up to the expectations set by her father.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:48 PM
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14. I like the idea of another Kennedy going to Washington!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:24 AM
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21. As President, her father worked for peace.
That's completely different from the largely unbroken line of warmongers since then.

Plus, we'd miss the idealism that led America to be first on the moon -- a feat that had been considered impossible for most of history.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:06 AM
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17. "For one, she would continue the work of her father and uncles."
and you know this how?

my god, the childlike, starry-eyed innocence of some posters here.

ooh! a kennedy. ohh!

she is ruthlessly doing everything to get this office that any republican would be roasted over the coals over here on du.

madon.




and we call republicans morons...







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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:36 AM
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22. Why are you so filled with hate?
Show me where she's been "ruthlessy doing everything to get this office that any republican would be roasted over the coals over here on du."

I bet you can't, CasualWatcher9.

BTW: Call me a moron or crazy, I don't care which. I'll compare my journal to yours, anyday.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:28 AM
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 09:46 AM
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31. Your negative views are anti-progressive.
To compare us to the rethugs is beyond despicable. Please go smoke a doobie and try your post again.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 10:35 AM
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33. Because when I think of starry-eyed innocence
Der Fishie immediately comes to mind.

:rofl:

-Hoot
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:10 AM
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18. Give me links to her platform
Her policy positions.

Her past work on a national level.

Where are these?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:51 AM
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24. Here's what her dad was about...
President Kennedy used the Presidency to keep the peace and to make life better for ALL Americans. For example:

When the CIA lied to him about the Bay of Pigs, he took the heat rather attack Cuba and start a war with the Soviets.
When most of his cabinet and the Pentagon told him to invade Cuba over the Soviet missiles, he came up with an embargo and avoided World War III.
When the hawks called him a coward, he negotiated the nuclear test ban treaty.
When the War Party wanted war in Vietnam, he said "No. I'll never send draftees to fight another country's civil war."
When the racists told him to keep the universities segregated, he federalized the National Guard.
When the Secret Service and FBI were "Whites Only," he ordered them to make African Americans full agents.

It's a good bet Caroline has even more memories. And as soon as I get a link to her web site, I'll PM you.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:07 AM
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26. Ron Reagan vs. Ronald Reagan
Her father's positions aren't an argument, they're a distraction, and credentials she didn't earn herself.

Appointing her won't bring him back, other than in name. She is her own person.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 09:37 AM
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30. Reagan's policies helped ruin America. JFK's helped build America.
While she is her own person, I think she'll follow in her father's footsteps.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 05:37 PM
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37. He stoked fear of the USSR with a "missile gap," and had RFK give Hoover the okay to bug MLK's phone
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:11 AM
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19. I think so, too!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:57 AM
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25. It'd be good for the country.
The American people would have a clear alternative to the likes of neo-confederates like McConnell, Shelby, Corker and Vitter.

And, given a few debates on topics like the war on the middle class or the Wall Street bailout, I bet more and more Americans would be take the progressive, liberal side.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:14 AM
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28. I could just hear her speeches about the middle class. One thing is for certain: everyone would
listen to her.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:18 AM
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20. k&r
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 01:11 AM
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27. The Kennedy name really gets people emotional.
For me, the Kennedys represent an ideal -- specifically, that the government of the United States can work to make life better for all Americans. That must be scary to certain people, those who believe that democracy threatens their, em, position.



Como handas, Compay? Biste la majaderia delo' pendejititos y comenmierdas?

Most importantly: Happy Thanksgiving to You and Yours, SwampRat!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 09:49 AM
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32. I agree!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 12:33 PM
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34. Caroline is qualified. Ask Michael Carmichael at Huffington Post...
Here's someone who agrees with us:



Is Caroline Kennedy Qualified?

By Michael Carmichael, Huffington Post
Posted on December 17, 2008, Printed on December 17, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/113478 /

America is transfixed. The world is transfixed. The Kennedy legend promises to open another chapter.

For days, Chinese whispers in the corridors of power trickled through the grapevines of political gossip that, Caroline, the sole surviving child of JFK and Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy might be interested in serving in the US Senate. Fueled by the knowledge that her uncle Edward Kennedy is nearing the limits of his service in the Senate, the rumor that Caroline Kennedy might be stepping into her family's niche of history by following in the footsteps of her father and her uncles seemed remote, a pipedream, a fantasy, a paradox of wishful thinking for those nostalgic enough to recall the glamor and momentum of Camelot.

Regarded by many as pure speculation and discounted as highly improbable that Caroline Kennedy could have any conceivable interest whatsoever in subjecting herself and her family to the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune concomitant on the position of US Senator, the rumors ended abruptly when Governor Paterson received a telephone call from JFK's daughter stating that she would be interested in the Senate seat soon to be vacated by Hillary Clinton when she is confirmed as Secretary of State in February.

Given the received opinion in the form of contrarian rumors, Governor David Paterson may have been mildly shocked when he told reporters that Caroline Kennedy had telephoned to confirm her intention to seek his appointment with the promise to present her qualifications to the Governor. Sounding just the slightest bit dumbfounded, the Governor told a hastily assembled press conference, "She told me she was interested in the position. She'd like at some point to sit down and tell me what she thinks her qualifications are." Echoing the thunderstruck Governor, the headline in the New York Times proclaimed, "Kennedy Seeks to Prove Qualifications for Senate Bid."

Having made a conscious decision to live quietly in a private life heavily veiled from the white-hot glare of publicity and shielded from the persistent pestering of the paparazzi, Caroline Kennedy is consummately qualified to ascend to the Senate seat once held by her uncle, RFK.

While her family heritage is common knowledge to every school child, Caroline Kennedy's life and achievements have been studiously secluded, but make no mistake -- the qualifications of Caroline Kennedy are remarkable.

CONTINUED...

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/113478/is_c... /



Thanks, mod mom. You know what she's about and what We the People are up against.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:55 PM
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35. If for nothing else, just to bother the Bush's.
I wish we were above name recognition in this country, but, we're not. Bush for example. Let's make sure we get the good ones, like this wonderful young woman, and go with it.

That name, irritating the Bush's, sounds like a gravy boat to me.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:29 PM
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38. Pass the Torch!




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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:48 PM
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39. She believes in what she was taught: politics is a PUBLIC SERVICE.
Whatever happened to that characterization of political office?

Has anyone read their Constitution, lately?

Have the neocons corrupted the characterization and PURPOSE of politics to the point that people forget the actual function of political officials?

I do wonder, sometimes.

Yes. Miss Caroline would be a superb representative having served the "underling" among the "upperlings" her whole life. Why NOT give her the opportunity to pass on the torch of her father's vision? As if that would be a bad thing?
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 08:05 PM
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40. I believe she would be honest to a fault.
How often does someone come along with that rare quality?
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