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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:59 AM
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Without the Big 3, what reason do the foreign manufacturers have to
stay? A big part of them building plants in the states was to be able to say they employ Americans in building that car. But if the Big 3 go under and we have no choices to shop otherwise, if the foreign companies can hire work at half the cost or less in Japan or somewhere else, they'll move.

And then those stupid fuck Senators from the southern right-to-work states will have absolutely nothing to show for it but a ruined economy and millions of broken lives.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:12 AM
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1. I was listening to an econimcs professor on Pacifica radio
and he was saying the exact same thing. There will be no auto industry in the USA.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:18 AM
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2. The foreign car makers moved in during one of those "Buy American"
campaigns, even now the sticker is supposed to show the % that comes from within the US

We have always had a national pride relationship with our auto manufacturers, in spite of our complaints (and yes, I can pick on my sister as much as I want, but no one else is going to get away with it)

Once there's nothing to fuel that national pride that would create a backlash against even more outsourcing, then it just a matter of time before those other companies pull up stakes and move on to cheaper labor and greener pastures.

But the Repubs with foreign owned car companies in their states somehow think they'll be immune to that. The "free market" is going to be free to run right over the border and leave them just as high and dry as the rest of us.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:21 AM
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4. It seems to be working
that way in other industries where both the American business collapsed and the major share of it is or was overseas. Seems similar to the catastrophic effects of globalized economics in poorer nations that find at the end of the day they have somehow lost even the ability to grow their own food.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:20 AM
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3. Those greedy old bastids and whatever you call the equivalent woman won't even realize it
Its all about right now, never about tomorrow with the re:puke:s
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:22 AM
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5. You know, Japanese workers aren't exactly cheap.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/15/bloomberg/sxpay.php

According to this article, some are unionized and average about $4,000 each month.

Where people get the idea that labor costs here are higher than in other developed countries is puzzling
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:34 AM
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6. I said Japan or whereever they can buy the cheapest labor
but also, Japan has it's own issues with working people outside of its unions

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=15182
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 08:40 AM
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7. The guy in that article was in what we would consider management, they aren't unionized here either.
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 08:41 AM by JVS
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:07 AM
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8. With the dollar being as devalued as it is going to become, the US will be the cheap labor
Plus, they won't have to ship cars over
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