Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Killer Fog of December 1952 - London England

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:21 PM
Original message
The Killer Fog of December 1952 - London England
I had never heard of this until I read a gem of a book called, "The Pessimists Guide to History"

...a toxic mix of dense fog and sooty black coal smoke killed thousands of Londoners in four days. It remains the deadliest environmental episode in recorded history.

The so-called killer fog is not an especially well-remembered event, even though it changed the way the world looks at pollution. Before the incident, people in cities tended to accept pollution as a part of life. Afterward, more and more, they fought to limit the poisonous side effects of the industrial age.

A toxic mix of dense fog and sooty black coal smoke killed thousands of Londoners in four days. It remains the deadliest environmental episode in recorded history.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=873954

Anyone here, or someone you know go through this?


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:22 PM
Response to Original message
1. No one I knew-- but I read about it in "The People's Almanac"
sometime back. Pretty scary
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
2. A lot of people forget air pollution- period.
Fifty years ago plenty of places in this country looked worse than China.

I didn't know anybody from this particular incident, no. I know lots of people whose life was cut short, I'm willing to bet, from living in LA back in the forties and fifties.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
3. Wow - - Terrifying

I consider myself fairly well-read and knowledgable about Europe, but I had never heard of this. Quite scary; all the more so because there was nothing that could be done about it, apparently, until it naturally dissipated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:40 PM
Response to Original message
4. I was in London in 58...no one said shit...Very interesting as we approach the
wholesale use of "clean coal"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:41 PM
Response to Original message
5. I read about this before...and it resulted in a number of changes..
In Chicago...a few years later..all coal burning home furnaces were outlawed..All homeowners and apartment owners had to switch to oil or gas heat...Illinois being a coal producing state...soft coal..took a huge financial hit, but this was really the beginning of the battle against air pollution...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:51 PM
Response to Original message
6. Did you know about the one a few years earlier? Donora Pennsylvania 1948
Your post triggered my memory of watching it very late one evening 1/2 asleep. I had to google it since I couldn't remember where it took place.

Donora suffered no where near the deaths that London did. It surprised me because I'd never heard of it happening in the US. That situation led to the first clean air act.

http://www.depweb.state.pa.us/heritage/cwp/view.asp?a=3&Q=533403&PM=1

http://www.pbs.org/now/science/smog.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. There's a book about that and 1952 too I'm sure:
"When Smoke Ran Like Water", by Devra Davis

I'll have to check it out at the library. I wonder if that novel (being made into a movie)"Blindness" was partially based on this incident. Maybe not, but it reminded me of it sure enough. Not the smog/fog part of course. Anway, I read "Blindess" when it first came out and it was pretty horrifying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. The book by Dr. Davis sounds interesting.
Apparently she grew up in Donora and I'm curious if she saw first hand the results of people who were exposed in '48. I wonder if that's what led her into her field.

Next time I'm at the library I'll have to check out "Blindness" too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. Blindness is very good. The author won the Pulitizer Prize for it.
Read it on a dark and stormy night so it'll be scarier!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:53 PM
Response to Original message
7. it's so funny to come across your post
I was just talking about this with my dear friend and neighbor who is English and was in London at that time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. Must be my radar!!
What did your dear friend say about it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. she talked about how dark it was in the middle of the day and trying to
find her house by recognizing the iron fence in front of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Thanks. At lunch I went to the library and found the book.
At least 12,000 people died because of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. That's mind-boggling-- how horrible
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 12:20 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC