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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:44 PM
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Republicans devouring their own
Though most of the time I don't give it a second thought, every once in a while I decide to check out what the radical right is thinking. Lately, I've had fun going over to FR and watching their pinheads explode as reality sinks in. However today, having free time at the right time, I decided to check out what Rush was up to, what was going on inside his little tiny pinhead. An amazing amount really, as it turned out.

First off, he was of course preaching to the choir about how Obama and the Dems were going to confiscate all of our 401k's and other pensions, nothing terribly new or strange here, just the same ol' right wing bullshit and lies.

However his next pronouncement actually had the ring of truth and sincerity in it, something along the lines of what I'd been thinking, namely that after the election, especially if the results are as dramatic as they're looking to be right now, Rush thinks that the Republican party is going to have a major realignment. First, that it will become much more conservative as it expunges all of those moderates and "intellectual" Republicans and instead transforms itself into a relgio-conservative radically right wing party led by, of all people, Sarah Palin.

Now granted, there is much to laugh at in this, but there is some truth here too. The Republican party is going through an identity crisis right now, and their pending defeat is going to only exacerbate the right between moderates and the conservatives in that party. The question isn't going to be whether or not there will a break between these two groups, only when, and which group will get to keep the party and which will strike out on its own. There is going to be too much anger and bitterness going on within the party to allow it to remain intact and in one piece. When you've got the likes of Rush beating up on moderates like Buckley and Powell, and wielding the anti-intellectual bat within his own party, you know things are going to explode, sooner rather than later.

This is all to the good for those of us in the Democratic and liberal camps. We're regaining that section of our coalition that left for Reagan nearly thirty years ago. We're also going to be facing a weak and divided Republican party for at least the next two presidential election cycles. Let us put this time to good use and pass some truly liberal programs, UHC, real public funding of elections, re-regulate the financial and other sectors, revitalize Social Security, undo the excesses of the Bush years, repeal the Patriot Act, etc. etc. We have the means, and the window of opportunity to do this.

Then Rush went back to his ranting self, agreeing with one of his moronic callers that yes indeed the current economic mess was the fault of rich liberal investors who tanked the economy all to get Obama elected :eyes: Whenever somebody starts thinking that I'm a conspiracy nut, I just point them in the direction of Rush, that's a fine example of somebody with not only a tin foil hat, but a tin foil head.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:45 PM
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1. And they will all get food poisoning.
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 02:46 PM by foxfeet
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:51 PM
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2. I have a feeling the party will break in two -- the old schoolers, the financial
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 02:52 PM by Rabrrrrrr
conservatives and otherwise good types of people who just see the world differently but don't feel the need to hate and villify, and the religio-crispy nutfuck part of the party that the old schoolers stupily invited into the party when Reagan was around, who want to legislate individual morality while delegislating any kind of community morality (such as, take care of the poor and the destitute) and who are anti-science and anti-peace.

The old schoolers realize how much they've fucked themselves. It worked for a little while, but now the religious fuckwits have too much power.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:58 PM
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5. That's my thought,
The only question now is who gets to keep the party name and infrastructure. Will the moderates kick out the RW fundies or the other way around :shrug: It should at least be entertaining to watch, and like I said earlier, guarantees Democrats and liberals much easier sledding in our electoral future.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:21 PM
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8. The only question now is who gets to keep the party name?
Could be a bigger battle than "Waters V Floyd"
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:18 PM
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7. yup.
I can only hope that the paleo-Palins become the new, unchallenged face of the GOP. :D
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:51 PM
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3. No the republicans will not become more conservative
If that were going to happen they would have all switched to McPalin.

That party will turn into something else (more moderate). I think religion will be left out of their politics and the evangelicals are going to hate that they won't get a free ride casting fear (and asparagus, lol) throughout the nation anymore. Thats my prediction
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:52 PM
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4. Alaska has Two Republican Parties
Really...Two Official Parties, one the Republican Party and one the Moderate Republican Party. Alaska has had Six Official Parties on their ballot for about a decade now. Independence, Libertarian, Green, Moderate Republican, Republican, and Democrat...All Offically recognized Parties... It would not surprise me if other states didn't do something like this in the near future. Having two Republican Parties I mean...
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Lex1775 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:15 PM
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6. These guys might get more popular...

One of the gun forums I frequent had a couple of guys who were trying to recruit people for this party back when Fred Thompson dropped out.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:25 PM
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9. OxyRush is down to the twenty percenters now. No one else believes that horse shit any more.

It's actually sort of amusing listening to the desperation in their voices when the RW Radio Hatemongers spew all their hate and absurd lies. Their backs are up against the wall and they are nearly hysterical. And I'm LMAO here.

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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:24 PM
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10. Since the Dem with its former Reaganites is going to govern to the center-right,
And we are already seeing that shift to the right here,

I think it would be healthy to use this as an opportunity
to have a four-party system like REAL (not fake) democracies.

The test will be to see what Obama does on:

* Public financing of elections -- to restore campaign finance reform
to the Democratic party platform and prevent any more $500 million campaigns, regardless of who outspent who and what percentage of $200 contributions came from the upper-upper middle class.

* Instant runoff voting.

* Legislation against machine fraud.

* Legislation against poll tests (aside from the residency requirement) and ID tracking of citizens vs. a legislated underclass of non-citizens.

* Continuing to tear down public housing in New Orleans (a useful bellwether).

* Continuing to defund mass transit (subways!) and build roads instead, using the Pickens Plan and ignore peak oil entirely.
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