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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 05:41 PM
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"New Democrats" and how they Corrupt the "System." John Mack/Morgan Stanley..BAILOUT!
So...this "BAIL OUT" was a good thing? Look at who John Mack CEO of Morgan-Stanley Contributed to!


John Mack, CEO of Morgan-Stanley and part of the "In Crowd who got the BAIL OUT of TAXPAYERS DOLLARS" and who he CONTRIBUTED TO:

http://www.newsmeat.com/ceo_political_donations/John_Mack.php

Morgan-Stanley CEO...who is involved in Bail Out! Who has he contributed to since he was a "tot?"
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 05:45 PM
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1. There is an obvious quid pro quo between Dem leadership and the wealthy bankers they bailed out. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 05:46 PM
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2. Yup. And there was never any hope of having a perfect bill
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 05:47 PM by redqueen
because those Dems are in control... and what are we going to do... vote Green?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:51 PM
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3. We have to keep the pressure up to change the "DLC Mindset" that's mired in Clintonomics that
morphed into Bushonomics...although, I believe it's the reverse, in this case. That, PoppyBushonomics morphed into Clintonomics that morphed into JuniorOnomics.

So....it's kind of been a merry go round. Once Hillary was defeated the NEW DEMS had to go back to their old script and begin to rewrite it.

We must be careful that Obama doesn't fall into that "screen write" and becomes "REAGANONOMICS Part 4."

That's what I'm thinking, anyway...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 06:33 PM
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4. I just hope that Obama listenening to "Rubin" is just Campaign Strategy....
Otherwise we are LOST! Rubin might have been good for Clinton....but there's been 8 Years of DEVASTATION since then...and some of us might wonder if RUBINOMICS is the correct Medicine for THESE TIMES.

:shrug:
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 07:59 PM
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5. KoKo...Look at you avatar,
a member of the gentry pretending to be a Populist is the only answer, unless of course it's a real, live, Populist with an army of like minded legislators who would change this country's mind-set forever.

FDR was a fake who lacked conviction but Sam Rayburn aided him as a necessity and LBJ as a fawning pup. It will take a return to a time when those in control fear us with the power. "They" are nothing without "Us."

Trickle up.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:09 PM
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7. "FDR was a fake"???
Explain that one, please.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:56 PM
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8. It's late and I need to pick up the kids but I'll try...
FDR was necessary at the time. He was gentry, the gentry were afraid of us, they gave us FDR to placate the fear of the "Man". They were afraid enough of our anger to try to erase 50 years of abuse and give us 50 years of hopes and dreams. Those 50 years were over with Ronnie and Bush 1. We haven't been represented as a nation since.

Ask yourself, why would someone want that job? The FDR era built this country and our national psyche, but it was a response to what had to be done. What did Wiley Post, Will Rodgers and Woody Guthrie have in common with FDR? Not an effing thing other than the Populist movement, the Grange, the notion that "you" the voter had a choice.

Historically I'm a big FDR fan but that doesn't keep me realizing that he was a tool of the times. Eleanor was my hero, who's yours.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:03 PM
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9. I think Obama could be your view of FDR. It's not my view of FDR...but
if your view is the correct one...then Obama will be that FDR that you see in the "rearview mirror."
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:30 PM
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10. I'm hoping that he is the next pretender...
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 10:31 PM by fla nocount
I'm praying that the Dean movement and the nations psyche will surround him with a legislature that will give him no choice but to be the next pretender. My next prayer is that he is not a pretender at all, just a charismatic and just person who realizes what must be done to be elected.

The only thing in my "rearview mirror" is the FISA vote, it will never go away without a "nanny, nanny, gotcha, all come free," I was just a jokin' folks to get elected.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 07:19 PM
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13. I agree....and I hope what you do....
:hug:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:02 PM
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6. FDR
"But the resolute enemy within our gates is ever ready to beat down our words unless in greater courage we will fight for them."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 06:09 PM
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12. Thanks..."THEY" are always with us...it's how we deal with them that makes the "Difference"
in how we go forward and what kind of society we want to be...

It goes back and forth throughout HISTORY...but THIS is the TIME we need to come in once again and let the PEOPLE'S VOICE, BE HEARD!

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 05:18 PM
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11. ...
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