Official Valerie Plame Testimony Thread No.1

[Greeby]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

Roll up! Roll up! :popcorn:

[Greeby]

1. Hmm, maybe we should have this pinned or something

:kick:

[rateyes]

2. Another link...webcast from oversight committee website..

http://www.oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1205

Just in case C-SPAN interrupts the hearing to bring House proceedings.

[sabra]

3. get ready to watch history...

[Lasher]

4. I'm here!

CSPAN uno, right?

This is gonna be good.

[Greeby]

C-Span's camera has gone there

WJ is continuing to talk to Tom Blanton of the National Security Archive

[npincus]

Go, Val!

[verse18]

5. please keep us worker bees up-to-the-minute.

cspan won't stream at my computer at work :(

[sabra]

9. try this...

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/groc/16423/200_groc-110oversighthearings_070129.asx

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

138. Thank you ! THANK YOU !

Our web filter at work didn't block this one so I can aactually see who is speaking !

[Lasher]

11. I'll do my best for the oppressed cube rats

Just now switched to the hearing room. People standing around mumbling.

[NewJeffCT]

thanks

we need our crumbs, since streaming video or audio is frowned upon here.

[Lasher]

123. There's so many pitching in on the play-by-play I think I'll chill a little.

Hope this is working for you. Wait till you see this on Youtube. She looks great! And that does matter. Sympathy for her will grow I assure you!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. I'm here!

but I have to leave for work soon. :(

[tinfoilinfor2005]

7. How on earth did this fall on my day off so I can watch?

Must be Good Clean Living!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[crappyjazz]

8. I'm giddy

and I've already had way too much coffee

I have to watch cspan on the net, my cable provider in Canada doesn't carry it so I hope the stream keeps up okay

[The Witch]

10. k&r & good morning!

I osooo don't have time to be watching this much less livecommenting on it!

[orleans]

12. checking in--for awhile at least. then i go to work. wish i could

stay and watch it all!

[MelissaB]

16. I'm at work and gave a rec. to get to this to the greatest

for all cube rats looking for info.

:kick:

[LSK]

13. showing some Code Pink members there

[MonkeyFunk]

14. I saw that....

I hope they don't disrupt it.

[GregD]

15. you beat me to it!

code pink is in the House!

[Sydnie]

17. I am so glad you started this

I had planned to start one too ... but as always, my kid interrupted me!

Here now, with bells on!

[WestHoustonDem]

18. I really should be getting work done. But this is too good. n/t

[Tennessee Gal]

19. Be prepared for Toensing to lie her ass off.

[bdamomma]

20. it's starting soon on C Span 1

:woohoo:

[solara]

21. Mornin' k&r

[cspanlovr]

22. Oh, this is gonna be good.

[blogslut]

23. Firedoglake is live blogging it

Pach is in the hearing room. Awesome!

http://firedoglake.com/

[babylonsister]

24. I feel sorry for Mrs. Wilson; she must feel like a bug under a

magnifying glass.

[Sparkly]

30. I'd imagine it must also feel like a relief in a way.

After so much time and so many lies, she can finally set the record straight in her own words.

[Sydnie]

I agree with you

It must feel like final vindication to be there testifying.

[babylonsister]

35. Good point. That's why I'm watching, to hear about that record we

haven't been privy to.

[Lasher]

43. If I were she I would be eager to get a chance to refute all the lies.

Mixed feelings, maybe.

[zulchzulu]

25. I'll put on YouTube as time allows

I know...me and a hundred others...

[w8liftinglady]

26. hi,y'all :)

[tinfoilinfor2005]

27. Hope she wears white. It suits her and the situation.

[Sparkly]

28. Who just said "Man alive!" and why? nt

[annabanana]

33. Maybe an aid, reacting to the excitement...

[annabanana]

72. Waxman quoting HWalker about "most insidious of traitors"

[LizW]

36. Because of the amount of press?

or maybe because of the number of spectators? :shrug:

[Sparkly]

39. Yeah, that's what I was wondering... nt

[Catherine Vincent]

29. Ten minutes have passed so far and nothing but dead air.

Why didn't they bother to take calls until this thing got started?

[annabanana]

31. I'm all tingly!

[Sydnie]

38. I am just damn giddy with excitement

Had trouble sleeping last night ... the anticipation was killing me!

[bobthedrummer]

32. Good Morning

[crappyjazz]

34. Although CNN says repugs are trying to stop this

it must be a go as the committee members are seating themselves? can I assume it's going ahead?

[LSK]

40. link to that story here

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0307/Lights_Out_on_Plame.html

[WestHoustonDem]

41. Did CNN say how they're trying to stop it? I can't imagine

what it would take.

[Sydnie]

44. How could they stop it?

The chairman sets the agenda, and he did that already. :shrug:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. how can they? what grounds? libby appeal? nt

[Sparkly]

52. Oh, NOT that they have anything to hide... nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. hope she testifies, under oath, that she was covert. nt

[LSK]

42. I hope she details what happened to Brewster Jennings n/t

[Sydnie]

53. Oh god ... now you're just talking dirty!

:rofl: Wouldn't that be something!

[keithjx]

45. Good morning all!

Wahoo. Streaming at work!

Fire it UP!
KJ

[LSK]

Waxman just sat down

[LSK]

55. Valery just entered, cameras going crazy

[LSK]

62. Waxman gaveled it started

[LizW]

47. Here's Waxman n/t

[Rose Siding]

48. I can't find ANY dope on the 2nd wit -the WH Director of "Office of Security"

Not on the WH site, and the most complete from Google is a brief reference to this hearing in the SF Chron-

"James Knodell, director of the White House security office, also could attend to discuss general security procedures, committee officials said."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/16/national/w003806D96.DTL&type=politics

[Gemini Cat]

49. Glued to chair

and getting twitchie...

[RB TexLa]

50. Why does C-SPAN insist on continuing to add her husband's last name to hers?

[Sparkly]

51. Waxman's smiling... nt

[Ian David]

54. "Oh, my god... she's like re-thinking her decision to testify."

Who ever just whispered that needs to lean that if you sit close to a camera with a microphone on it, people can hear you.

[Dinger]

68. I Think She's Been Threatened

The repukes know this is the END OF IT ALL if she testifies.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

she looks like heather locklear n/t

[The Witch]

56. did someone just whisper something about her rethinking her decision

to testify? Or am I repeating baseless speculation?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

63. no I heard it too - but no

[Ian David]

65. She could have been talking about someone else. n/t

[tinfoilinfor2005]

112. What I heard was, "...her decision to testify."

Nothing more. It was a bit strange.

[LizW]

57. Here she is, looking gorgeous - Camera shutters

deafening.

[Wilber_Stool]

148. Glad I found your post.

If no one else had said it I would have. She is a real knock out.

Oops. no edit.

[CatWoman]

58. She just walked in

she's very, very pretty.

[Sydnie]

And looks very composed too n/t

[bdamomma]

94. yes she is.

go Valerie give them hell in a ladylike way that is.

[mikelgb]

59. Clickl clikcl cikclcicklc ckclcick shes here!

[Sparkly]

60. She looks gorgeous, cool and collected... nt

[LSK]

66. definately

[Greeby]

61. Here's the star witness

Look at those cameras go. You could have a seizure

[Lasher]

64. She just walked in!!

Gooooo, Valerie!

Cameras blazing like crazy!

[Eurobabe]

67. good god the cameras sounded like hail and thunder!!

[spanone]

69. Valerie just entered the room - proceedings beginning.

[Sydnie]

70. Slamming them with Poppy's quote right out of the box!

:rofl: This is going to be great!

[CatWoman]

71. LOL - Waxman starts off quoting Poppy Bush

about how reprehensible it is to out a CIA agent :rofl:

[EFerrari]

96. What a terrible day for freeps. Waxman is going to make them

eat their keyboards.

[H2O Man]

73. Looks good!

Let's roll!

[nitpicker]

74. Waxman going on about breach of national security

1. How did this occur?
2. Did the White House take appropriate steps to investigate?
3. Has the White House taken appropriate steps to guard identities?

[nitpicker]

90. More on opening

The hearing is open, so they cannot discuss all the details of Plame's employment here. Waxman saying that the CIA still, after all the leaks, can't let him talk about all the employment info about Plame. He says that when Novak published her column, Plame's employment status was still covert.

[Sparkly]

Waxman outlines three points to investigate

How did it happen; what did the WH do when it did; what steps need to be taken to ensure improvement... (my paraphrase).

[yodermon]

75. ONE OF THE LIBBY JURORS IS THERE

The art-curator dismissed one!

UPDATE from Pach in the hearing room (9:54 am ET):
Room getting crowded. Mood tense, expectant. The art curator dismissed juror just came in to sit in the public seats.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/16/theyre-scared

[Sydnie]

I smell book deal

anyone else smell it too?

[H2O Man]

Many people

will look to capitalize on this scandal.

[Catherine Vincent]

Really?

I'll bet she thought no one would recognize her!

[Lasher]

76. Rep Henry Waxman (D) presiding

"What changes are needed to ensure future violations do not occur?"

[LizW]

77. Criminal proceeding was narrow -- ours is fundamentally different

[annabanana]

78. Our job is to determine what went wrong

[Catherine Vincent]

79. Alright! Waxman is quoting Bush 41!

It's funny how no republican talking head during the CIA leak investigation bothered to quote him. :)

[bdamomma]

80. this is going to be good

[annabanana]

81. Challenges of open session re Nat'l Security

[rodeodance]

82. Victoria Toensing -Scheduled for Waxman Hearing--is on DIShonor roll:

Victoria Toensing -Scheduled for Waxman Hearing--is on DIShonor roll:


......."Former deputy assistant attorney general Victoria Toensing -- and everyone who gave her a forum"
...........
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703060017

Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:18pm EST


Media Matters CIA leak case "dishonor" roll

Media Matters for America has identified numerous instances of conservative misinformation about the CIA leak case, former CIA operative Valerie Plame, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, and Wilson's mission to Niger. In the wake of the guilty verdict in the trial of former vice presidential chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Media Matters presents a "dishonor" roll of media figures and outlets that have distinguished themselves with their flawed coverage of the case:

* Time magazine and former Time magazine correspondent John Dickerson
* The Washington Post
o Editorial board, editorial page editor Fred Hiatt, and those who echoed the Post editorial page's misinformation
o The Washington Post op-ed page and Outlook section editors
o Washington Post assistant managing editor Bob Woodward
o Headline writers
o Media writer Howard Kurtz
o Ombudsman Deborah Howell
o Columnist Richard Cohen

[Ian David]

83. The Waxman Cometh!

[rodeodance]

116. Good, on the Record Several times-- Plame was 'COVERT"

[Ian David]

84. Vallerie Plame and "Non-Official Cover" (NOC)

Remember the movie "Mission: Impossible"?

Remember the little room with the computer surrounded by all the elaborate security measures?

Do you remember what was in that computer that Tom Cruise wanted to steal?

That computer contained "The NOC List." The list of agents under Non-Official Cover.

Dick Cheney handed over information to the press that Tom Cruise would have had to crawl through the ventilation shaft and hang from the ceiling to get out of the super-secret computer room.

Yes, I know such a room probably doesn't exist.

But using the fictional movie as a metaphor conveys the proper picture of just how serious a security breach Cheney's real-life actions were.


Okay, Mister Cheney, I'm in. Let's see... Chuck Barris? No way! Ahh, here it is... Brewster-Jennings, Valerie Plame, Pay scale GS 14 level 6... Oh, Robert Novak is gonna LOVE this!

[Lasher]

Miss Wilson was a covert operative of the CIA - Waxman

Hey, I thought she was just an administrative assistant or something.

[crappyjazz]

97. Is this the first public, CIA backed confirmation

that she was covert? OMG, this is too good.

[Lasher]

143. I always felt the CIA confirmed she was covert when they referred the case to Justice.

Why else would they have done so, since the Intelligence Identity Protection Act applies only to covert agents? :shrug:

[annabanana]

85. Her status was COVERT

[Eurobabe]

86. Waxman intro'ing

This hearing proposes a challenge because of her covert activity in the CIA. Cleared following comments: she was undercover, classified information under executive order.

[Sydnie]

87. BINGO! She was UNDERCOVER!

It's on the record now! She was COVERT and it was CLASSIFIED! :woohoo:

[NightWatcher]

93. and a GS -14 level 6

she was no secretary.

She was so covert that they cannot say how covert she was

[LSK]

98. remember that, it will drive freeps nuts

[crispini]

88. THIS IS SO DAMN COOL and it hasn't even started yet. nt

[annabanana]

89. Without discussing specifice.. worked WMD's

[Blackhatjack]

91. Folks, this is history in the making .... we're in full scale investigation of this Administration

There are now too many leaks in the Bush ship to plug with fingers of Bush loyalists.

When she finishes testifying the Bush ship will have a gigantic hole in it!

[Sydnie]

100. Now YOU'RE talking dirty to me too

This is damn right orgasmic! :evilgrin:

[H2O Man]

101. "history in the making"

Absolutely. This is democracy in action. It is a powerful hearing that we are watching.

[annabanana]

92. Her cover was critical

[annabanana]

95. Impact on future CIA of disclosure

[Rose Siding]

99. Hot damn. That's it -official confirmation of everything

SHE WAS COVERT AT THE TIME OF NOVAK'S COLUMN....disclosure had several serious effects....

[sinkingfeeling]

102. Well, maybe the 'she was just a clerk' people will shut up!

[babylonsister]

103. Sure sounds like she was covert, doesn't it. All the sensitive info

they're not allowed to talk about; spin that, freepers.

[redirish28]

She was so deeply undercover and so high up that this could basically

destroyed the CIA.

[annabanana]

104. Her position was risky.. there should be no confusion on this

[LSK]

105. wow! CNN, MSNBC and FOXNEWS are covering it

[bobthedrummer]

106. "This is an administration that will not talk about how we gather intelligence,

how we know what we're going to do, nor what our plans are."
G.W.Bush to the press at Camp David 9-15-2001

[rainy]

107. Anybody see the person in pink with pink hair to the left back of the screen?

Could trouble be brewing?

[H2O Man]

109. Interesting. n/t

[LSK]

110. I doubt they will disturb this hearing

[LSK]

114. she is strategically placed behind Plame to be in view of the cameras

[Eurobabe]

115. yeah what's up with that? Pink lady has something on her shirt

[LSK]

125. shes Code Pink - a peace activist group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Pink

[bdamomma]

136. a code pink is in the horizon.

[Skidmore]

121. I see that person, and for once, I hope that this hearing is not

interrupted by protest. Stand there, but let people talk. We need to know this story.

[annabanana]

108. Waxman thanking the "abstract heroes"

[rodeodance]

126. Very powerful opening ---

[annabanana]

111. "Inexcusable breach"

[Sparkly]

113. At the risk of being superficial

I gotta say I can't get over how beautiful she looks.

[annabanana]

117. first up: Davis Virginia

[Sydnie]

118. Greeby, can we get a new thread now?

Before she begins, please.

[Catchawave]

119. Being covered by MSNBC, CNN and Fox too!

But I'll stick with Cspan :D

[annabanana]

120. The outing was wrong.. "not sure what we're trying to accomplish (turd)

[H2O Man]

129. Indeed.

He is a turd.

[Skidmore]

132. Ah, Tom "Did you hug a veteran today? Davis.

Another Republic skunk.

[Sydnie]

133. What the hell is this hypothetical all about?

We have a REAL case in front of us Davis. Stick to the facts and don't muddy the water with your garbage "what if-s!

[H2O Man]

142. "we're going to

waste some time..." He sure is trying to!

[Sparkly]

122. Davis: "Not sure what we're trying to accomplish today"

due to "security safeguards."

OH, the IRONY!!!!

[spanone]

124. This hearing is a result of the Nov. 7 election. Otherwise it would be in the basement w/o cspan.

[EFerrari]

134. That's right. I bet Waxman and Conyers are enjoying the sunlight.

:)

[blogslut]

127. Poor Tom Davis

His holdup tactic ain't gonna work.

[Cirque du So-What]

128. Ranking Repub on committee, Tom Davis, R-VA,

concedes that revealing her identity was wrong. One for the 'no shit, Sherlock' file.

[Eurobabe]

130. fucking COMCAST in PA has SECOND emergency alert in 5 minutes

Someone is playing with us!!

[Greeby]

131. Memo to Tom Davis, if you don't like the hearing

Then piss off!

[mod mom]

139. "looks like a CIA problem not a wh problem" WTF?

[EFerrari]

141. Bush digging himself in deeper - blaming CIA.

Don't these Bush bastards know that's a really BAD idea? They should.

[Greeby]

135. Admins, lock please nt

[annabanana]

137. Thread two up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x424577

[The Witch]

140. Ughh... that's :sigh: my Congressman...

oh Tom, tom, tom, why must you suck so hard?

[Octafish]

147. Tom once was a Capitol page...

...before he became a chickenhawk.

He's as low as they come.

[mikelgb]

144. the only waste of time is your fucking statement,

[annabanana]

145. Plame thread # 2 up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x424577

[peacetalksforall]

146. So Republican Tom Davis doesn't know what can be

accomplished with this hearing - given the limitations - he is really trying to water this down.

Hmmmm....
water down
water boarding
just thinking

[babylonsister]

149. Do you hear all those freeper heads exploding? Bwhahaha! nt

[kskiska]

151. They're blowing a gasket

claiming she's lying under oath.

[Stephanie]

150. I see a lot of PINK outfits in the gallery!

Looks like our girls are up to something! :)

[Moderator]

152. locking......

Thread 2 here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=424577&mesg_id=424577