LAY OFF PALIN'S KIDS

[RainDog]

If you're a decent human being, you will not discuss Palin's kids - especially her younger children.

If her baby is asleep, why would you assume the baby is drugged? I think that's sick and it's the sort of thread that brings shame to this forum. Children are not responsible for their parents' decisions.

These children have been thrust into a spotlight they did not choose. Please show some basic decency and save your criticism for Palin. Saving your criticism for Palin's political issues would be even better.

I'm sick of seeing threads on this board that sink to the lowest level of smear - using a child.

[JonLP24]

1. I couldn't agree more

[JonLP24]

2. I couldn't agree more

[HCE SuiGeneris]

5. Seems you and the above poster

are in full agreement... :9

And children are taboo in my book as well...

[McCCain4retirment]

3. I think family should be out of it too

but republicans have been throwing michele under the buss for the past 9 months,and you have Palin bringing her kids onto stage everywhere she goes while telling us there off limit.I barley see Obama kids going to every rally he's at.

But whatever.

[madmax]

4. I haven't see any of those threads and I have to admit

I really like little Piper! I'd love to give her a big hug. She always brings a smile to my face.

Can't help it she's just a kewtie pie kid.

[rebecca_herman]

28. I like Piper too

She seems like such a real kid. She makes the funniest facial expressions and she was very cute with the baby.

[madmax]

32. Yeah, the whole

lick, smooth thing with the hair cracked me up!

[snake in the grass]

74. What the hell is a 'real' kid?

The opposite of an artificial one or an android? All kids are 'real' kids. Don't be fooled by this shit. The cute kids of the Palin family today will be the degenerates of tomorrow; like the Bush twins. Bristol's situation is totally relevant as it shows where that bullshit abstinence only programme leads and don't get me started on that piece of white trash, Track. It seems these family values mutants bring forth utter nightmares as children. Palin offers up her brood in the most despicable way on HER journey of self-discovery and I don't see any problems holding up a mirror to their hypocrisies!

Consider how decent Chelsea Clinton turned out compared to the spawn of Republicans.



The high class Bush twins.



Jeb's kids, a drunk and a drug addict.



Palin's spawn, a drug-addled vandal and, well, a victim of her mother.



Big Boy David Huckabee likes to kill dogs.



Bill Frist's classy son.



Dr. Laura's son admits he likes to kill 'ragheads'.

I have no sympathy for these people or their offspring. These kids are products of their upbringing so who wants their parents in office? The hand-wringing here really makes me ill considering all that has happened. Fuck Republicans.

[ikojo]

6. I agree to a point.....Bristol Palin's pregnancy

is pertinent to the campaign because it highlights the failure of abstinence only sex education as well as demonstrating the need for age appropriate comprehensive sex education. MAYBE had Bristol Palin known there were options available, such as birth control and how to obtain it, she might not be pregnant at 17 and on the verge of getting married.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

7. Yes. Exactly.

If Obama can hold himself above the garbage that McPOW and his minions are throwing up and out there, we can be at least as restrained.

We're better than they are.

[peace13]

8. Although I don't think that the kids are fair game...

I think Ms. Palin has put the father of two young girls in grave danger. This women has been campaigning to cause Obama a fatal blow. Fortunately for Obama and America, Palin has had her choker chain pulled.

[southernleftylady]

9. I agree! The younger kids are innocents in all of this..

now a 17 year old is still innocent in the whole political thing too... leave the kids out of it .. as a mother I hope no one would go after my kids if they disagreed with me politically.... I have a special needs child and it makes me sick to hear people talk about trig and "whats wrong with him"
ok.. backing away....
leave the kids alone

[EOTE]

64. Has anybody here gone after Trig?

I refuse to believe anyone has said anything approximating "what's wrong with him" to that little baby. I don't buy that for a second.

[southernleftylady]

72. here you go..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4205613
true they didnt say "whats wrong" but "whats going on here" I am just saying there are plenty of things we can go after Palin for just leave the kids out of it is all I am saying. I am sure that if the freeps were saying anything about Obamas girls we would go off about it.. lets stick to the million and one other issues we have with her.. but thats just my thoughts on it..

[EOTE]

75. Sounds like a legitimate question to me.

I didn't see any attack on Trig there, just a valid question. The attention being paid towards Palin's kids is just minimal, I can't muster any enthusiasm to try and stop it. It seems to me, the poster was questioning Trig's parents, not trig himself.

[madinmaryland]

10. Huh? Isn't the issue whether she abused the power of the office of governor?

Which the report release tonight indicated.

:shrug:

[bemildred]

11. Word.

It's one thing to be in favor of progressive change. It's another thing entirely to attack children in public and become like what you claim to oppose.

[Name removed]

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[youthere]

13. Damn straight!

[AlCzervik]

14. i see one stupid thread about glasses, you couldn't have taken this up there?

[SammyWinstonJack]

53. !

:thumbsup:

[OmahaBlueDog]

15. Dupe

Computer freakout

[OmahaBlueDog]

16. Can't I say I believe marriage is meant to be a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers

Heck, I'm just quoting Tina Fey .. I'm not necessarily talking about Bristol :evilgrin:

[Name removed]

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[Condem]

19. You want to do the "Bristol Stomp", Turning?

Ahh, you're probably too young to remember that chestnut.

[madmax]

21. Brings back memories

The kids in Bristol are sharp as a pistol
When they do the Bristol Stomp
Really somethin when they join in jumpin
When they do the Bristol Stomp

:bounce:

[kayakjohnny]

18. Why not? Everyone else is getting laid off.

[SammyWinstonJack]

54. ...

:spray:

[begin_within]

20. If the kids are off limits, why do the Palins parade the kids in front of cameras?

[EFerrari]

22. Agree -- until the second Palin uses them as props.

Even then, lay of the kids, but not off of Palin's treatment of them.

[Caretha]

23. This is the FIRST FUCKIN Pailin kid thread

I've seen in weeks, and I read these forums like a fanatic. So you need some attention or something? Next question, what is your agenda?

[RainDog]

26. my agenda is simple

I logged on yesterday and saw a thread talking about Palin's Down Syndrome baby. I logged on tonight and saw a thread about Piper. You may not have seen those threads but I did. I have as much right to post this thread as someone does who asks if the illuminati are using flying saucers to cause a drop in the stock exchange.

My agenda is that I am a mother of a special needs kid and before people knew my child was a special needs kid they were only too happy to blame me for any behavior. The two people who were the worst about all this are dead, thankfully. However, my children are not the only ones in this world and I felt a need to say this.

People routinely do this to mothers. People have routinely done this to mothers throughout history. "Experts" have routinely done this to mothers. It doesn't matter if it's Palin or anyone else. Obama's children should be off limits too.

If you want to assume some "agenda" that goes beyond treating children with some decency, go right ahead. You don't have to reply to this thread -- no one has to reply to this thread and it will sink.

I said what I wanted to say and I'm glad I did.

[JanMichael]

33. If you are the mother of a special needs child, then why aren't

you completely horrified at the way this woman is using that baby as a prop?

Give me a break; this is a website. A freaking website with fewer people on it than some small town in say...Alaska. Not a big deal.

What you don't seem to realize is that nasty woman who clearly has no respect for life, human or animal, put herself and her kids, in the position to have her children ridiculed by people on the internet.

Save your anger for her, and do something more constructive that TYPE IN ALL CAPS ON DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND.

And--see my other post. I don't post about those kids, because I quite frankly don't pay any attention. However, your ridiculous post is dragging people like me in-- BECAUSE OF YOUR HYSTERICAL WAY OF WRITING.

[RainDog]

34. odd

I typed in caps to indicate anger. That's not the same as hysteria, but if you want to choose to view it in that way, what the hell. I'm sorry to know that I am somehow forcing you to respond to this post.

there are many things I could say but I won't because this isn't really about you.

[JanMichael]

36. it's not about you either. When someone makes fun

of Palin's kids--- it's about that. Not your children.

You are capable of indicating anger-albeit misdirected-- without the use of screaming caps.

Seriously. You are pissed at the wrong people. She put them out there for the world to ridicule because they have the misfortune of Palin DNA.

This is the internet; if you can't take it, well--- go find a new hobby. It's ugly out here. But, it's not about you, or your children.

[RainDog]

50. I never knew you were arbiter of DU subject lines

if you don't like the use of caps, then why don't you go to one of dozens of other threads and tell them what is acceptable or not to you?

I didn't say this was about my kids. I said my agenda stems, in part, from having special needs kids, in response to the CAPS USING asinine reply asking me what the fuck my agenda is... but that's not hysteria, so why bother. Oh wait, no that reinforces your anger, so it's okay.

I think you are pissed at the wrong person. I don't have to have a special needs child, as others on this thread indicate, to know that it is nasty to attack young children. No matter what the political beliefs of the parents.

If you don't like it, go find a new hobby. People on this board have opinions that differ from yours and no one nominated you to decide who posts what on this board.

I am really amazed at the nasty replies on this thread, but it tells me a lot about those who posted them.

I'm done with you.

[JanMichael]

58. my anger?

hoo---kay.....

why do you keep kicking this thread if all it's doing is making you more mad?

[Caretha]

37. So your agenda is you have

a special needs child. I see. I have special needs children too. IMO all children are "special needs". And I can damn well guarantee you if I had a downs-syndrome baby that was 4 months old I'd be nursing the child to make sure it got the best of the best of me it could. I would also be holding my "special needs" child as often as I could. That is what a real mother does, unless she has no choice but to work her ass off to make sure she & the child at least has food. I do not believe that Sarah Pailin's child is suffering from a lack of food because her mother has to earn the bacon. Her "special needs" child is/will suffer because she is one cold hearted bitch. END OF STORY

[Tumbulu]

43. I agree 100% (nt)

[2speak]

56. Would you taken your child to a rally, debate or any other

large social function if you were the one getting on stage?

[spoony]

51. Have you been on holiday?

Maybe missed the ones with the photoshopped pic of one of them?

[Yuugal]

24. can I still talk about that phat arse?

Da-aaammm! And ....um... is it ok to ask Sarah how well abstinence-only worked out for her family?

Edited to add: I like big butts and I can not lie. :)

[SammyWinstonJack]

55. Am I allowed to say she walks like a cow? Jeez louise, someone should teach her how to walk in

heels, and to stop pulling at her obviously tight clothes. 'Hottie'? :rofl:

[emilyg]

25. I'm with you 100%.

[JanMichael]

27. Why? Palin is using them as campaign props. She brought them

out to the public, and stuck them out there for everyone to look at.

Therefore, tough shit.

btw--search my name. I don't give a rat's ass about her kids (don't want them to get hurt, or wish anything bad on them--just flat out don't care.)--and have never posted anything on them.

However, that said--Palin did this to herself.

[endthewar]

29. You make it sound like this website is cheerleading an anti-Bristol sentiment

which I strongly disagree with. Where was your concern with the far right was going after Malia for being too "mature" for her age? I'll search for that thread of yours. I don't expect to find anything. :rofl:

[zbdent]

30. Bill O'Reilly said that it wasn't the failure of the kid ... it was the failure of the pinhead

parents ... at least, that's what he said when it was 17-year-old Lindsay Lohan ...

[jrockford]

46. Yeah

all this "what about the children" crap makes me sick. They use them as props...so you defeat the props. Make the props not relevant, beyond that - it is unnecessary and beyond comment.

But I'll say this, there is something quite odd about that family and it is phony as hell. I'm sure their base would LOVE that...those that aren't making excuses for it.

[LynneSin]

61. That was Jamie Lynn Spears, which btw she may be pregnant again

If she is I expect O'Reilly to embrace her as a wonderful example of a young girl!

[mzmolly]

31. Agreed.

K and R.

[2speak]

35. People get confused so easily

it's not about the kids! It's about the parenting skills, always has been and always will be. So get over it already.

[Bluebear]

38. Please post a link to all these threads. Thanks.

[klook]

39. Umm, OK.

I've never said anything bad about her kids. It's her and her running mate I have problems with.

[meow2u3]

40. Real liberals are supposed to have compassion for disabled kids

Even the disabled kids of our adversaries. Trig Palin is literally retarded, so I strongly agree that we lay off him. He will grow to be a big kid, retaining his innocence (I hope to God his parents don't corrupt him, even though it will not be his fault if he ends up that way).

Instead, go after the parents for being such unethical tyrants.

[billyoc]

41. I forgot she had any. I hope the keep them away from the murderous mobs

they're inciting, they could be trampled.

[Gemini Cat]

42. Huh? What are you talking about?

I've not seen anyone say anything rotten about her kids.
What I have seen are various people expressing various concerns over the way her children are being treated.
:shrug:

[bridgit]

44. agreed...

[tjwash]

45. why?

[Iggo]

47. Who's attacking her kids?

I'll show 'em what for, I will.

[King Coal]

48. I think the kids are not only in on it, but they are behind it.

Look at little Trig. He is probably the mastermind of it all.

Oh, and for the SI out there, see below.



:sarcasm:

[TahitiNut]

49. Maybe that advice would've been best given to Levi early this year?

:rofl: :rofl:

[aikoaiko]

52. "If you're a decent human being,..." thats the problem right there

There are yoo many indecent people here. But at least the vote the right way.

[TZ]

57. I agree

I haven't seen that behavior but I have seen other stupid threads (Palins gained weight she must be on DRUGS!) so I can definitely believe you.
It wasn't okay when the right did this with Chelsea Clinton. Its NOT okay when the left does it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a HYPOCRITE of the worst sort.

[sakabatou]

59. ...

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[LynneSin]

60. Sorry but the children are an example of the mother and what we can expect

Her oldest son has been documented as a habitual oxycontin abuser. Her oldest daughter is a teenage pregnant statistic and printed in several locations that she had a bit of reputation and was also a drug user. And the youngest is lugged around like a piece of luggage.

Sorry, if she can't care for her children then I don't want her potentially being the one to make decisions for ours. Sarah Palin and her children represent the worst of what the republican policy has offered us thru the years. "Just Say No" policies - whether it be drugs or sex, clearly have failed when it comes to the Palin household. This is something I hold the parents responsible for.

And I think this has been brought up several times - what if Track, Bristol and Trig were Barack & Michelle's kids and they were acting like this or treated poorly like Trig. I highly doubt Obama would be running for president or even be on the bottom of a really long list for VP.

[notaboutus]

66. You were reading my mind

You said it better than me with less words.:thumbsup:

[taterguy]

62. I won't go into details but one of my parents was a politician

I knew that anything I did would reflect on them.

It wasn't much of a challenge to keep my name out of the newspapers.

But, well, my parents raised me with common sense and decency.

[2speak]

63. Yes this isn't about the kids it's about their parenting skills

and choices. Family values etc..

[taterguy]

68. I could care less about their parenting skills per se

But intelligence and competence are important to me.

[notaboutus]

65. The issue is

1. Bristol is on camera using drugs and alcohol underage. (google)
2. Levi the supposed father of the unborn child is a known drug user and high school drop out. (NY Times)
3. Todd is the one who takes care of the children yet he worked two jobs and trained for his race year round. Now Todd can't seem to stay out of a camera shot long enough to take the children home and let them go to school. (stated the day of her announcement as V.P. on MSM)
4. The baby is being used as a prop and that is what angers people. (my opinion) Also any parent knows a baby does not sleep soundly through noise as loud as ones being made in rallies, regardless of how tired they are. ( check with any pediatrician about the possibility)
5. The son is also a known drug user and no poster child for athletic sportsmanship. (NY Times)
6. Palin had an affair. (google)

These are known documented FACTS. The MSM doesn't talk about them and people feel like they can come here and vent. The in your face out right lying of the MSM and some press when it comes to the reporting is also a cause of frustration and anger.

It pains me because she says she is of faith. What faith is my question for Palin.
KJV-The Book of Matthew 7:1-5 sums it up for me. I will just type the 1st verse
Matthew 7:1 - JUDGE NOT, THAT YE BE NOT JUDGED

[philosophie_en_rose]

67. While the kids are not at fault, their actions reflect on Palin's parenting & policies.

I agree that people shouldn't criticize the kids' appearance or scrutinize them, but some of their actions are going to be obvious and the fact that they happened are public knowledge.

For instance, no one should bother Bristol Palin about her pregnancy. It's her choice and I hope she's healthy. However, the fact that Governor Palin's abstinence only education failed in her own home is noteworthy. The fact that this "family values" and "security" mom's son is a known drug dealer is noteworthy. Whether a child looks "drugged" is speculation, but whether it's appropriate for a parent to bounce a baby around at all hours is a fair question.

[PaDUer]

76. Bristol was put

out of the house when mommy dearest found out she was pg, and sent to a school 1/2hr away.

[NNN0LHI]

69. I have not heard one person from the Obama campaign say anything about her kids. Have you?

Lets have a link if you have one.

If you can't produce one I am calling you a liar.

Don

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

70. If Palin leaves her kids at home, where they belong,

I won't say anything else about them

BTW: Isn't the campaign stage for campaigning??

[earth mom]

71. People aren't speaking crap about the kids. They are speaking the TRUTH about BAD MOM PALIN.

Palin is running her campaign on family values when it is OBVIOUS she actually puts family values in the toilet in regards to her kids. :grr:

I question the motives of anyone who tries to cover up Palins BAD behavior!!!

[dysfunctional press]

73. what about the fact that the reason her son is in the army was to avoid jailtime?

if she's going to keep waving her son's "service" in everyone's face, i think that the truth about the circumstances needs to be out there as well.