Ominous Development Could Result In Current & High Level Officials Being Indicted For Crimes

[kpete]

David C. Iglesias
Posted October 10, 2008 | 11:59 AM (EST)
Dangerous New Turn in Justice Department Investigation

Last week brought a dangerous new turn to the on-going United States Attorney and Justice Department disaster. Based on the evidence, career, non-partisan investigators recommended the appointing of a special prosecutor to determine whether criminal laws were violated in my ouster and that of my colleagues. No longer just a civil matter to blithely ignore, this ominous development could result in current and high level officials being indicted for crimes. I suspect the special counsel will "follow the emails" in the way that "follow the money" brought down Nixon's men during Watergate.

The Justice Department's independent watchdog offices, the Inspector General and Office of Professional Responsibility, finished the definitive investigation about the firings, stating that U.S. Attorneys may not be removed for an "illegal or improper reason." I was not disappointed or surprised by the findings contained in its blistering report which I cooperated with fully. Every reason given for my ouster was examined and rejected as "disingenuous after-the-fact rationalizations" by former Justice Department personnel, thus sounding the death knell to my alleged "performance-related" problems. More importantly, the firings of my colleagues and me "severely damaged the credibility of the Department and raised doubts about the integrity of Department prosecutive decisions" according to the investigation. Several Republican officials took key roles damaging America's premier crime fighting organization.

The 392-page report described a "fundamentally flawed" process of termination, one in which politics were allowed to overrule the historic independence of U.S. Attorneys. Pat Rogers, the New Mexico Republican committeeman, despite his incessant drone of criticism, curiously refused to cooperate with the Justice Department investigators, as did Senator Pete Domenici, his chief of staff Steve Bell, former White House Advisor Karl Rove, former White House Counsel Harriet Miers, and former DoJ official Monica Goodling. The Attorney General, Michael Mukasey called it straight, the removals were "haphazard, arbitrary and unprofessional". He further stated the reputations of the terminated US Attorneys were "unfairly tainted by the removals and their aftermath."

more at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-c-iglesias/new-dangerous-turn-in-jus_b_133614.html

[ThomWV]

1. It was clear from the Hearing Conyers held last week that this hasn't seen its end

It was clear to me that they were laying the groundwork for prosecutions. Inspector General Fine testified and he was not bashful about answering any question asked that he was qualified to answer. It was a very good sign.

[elleng]

49. Fine has always been EXCELLENT,

and this is the best news I've seen in a LONG LONG time!

But its also reason to be vigilent, and scared, about ELECTION FRAUD!

[WheelWalker]

2. Now we're talking.

[The Backlash Cometh]

41. You bet.

Until people can begin to trust the Justice Department again, corruption will continue to run amok.

[msongs]

3. president obama will end investigations "for the good of the nation"?? nt

[VP505]

6. I don't think so,

President Obama is going to have a difficult enough time cleaning up the mess without people being angry with him because he gave team Booo$h/Cheney a pass.

[tomp]

16. obama's going to have a real hard time.

once (if) elected, it will be incumbent on the "left"/progressives to hold his feet to the fire. this "reaching across the aisle" sounds like a recipe for selling out to the right. he's already voted for fisa and this "bailout". he has promised to examine the bush criminal legacy but not in any convincing way. i can only hope that, as a constitutional law expert, he is downplaying these issues at this time for political purposes. i doubt it. every time i hear "reach across the aisle" i doubt it. failure to prosecute bush, inc would be ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVEABLE, as is pelosi's/the democrats' failure to impeach.

[Joe Chi Minh]

20. Maybe this wholly unnecessary economic depression is of such a magnitude

that there will be a seismic shift in the attitude of Democrats who, hitherto, have been reluctant to do their duty as public servants of the State.

[Selatius]

25. During the Great Depression, they uncovered the Business Plot to overthrow FDR.

The industrialists behind this plot wanted to bring down FDR and copy Germany's solution to the Great Depression: Fascism.

Nobody was prosecuted. Congress heard the testimony and did its own investigation, but it shelved the results, curiously.

[Joe Chi Minh]

29. I read that FDR did a deal with them on that score, provided they didn't

thart his New Deal. This time round, however, I would be very surprised if the wholesale criminality is all together too much to be swept under the carpet in exchange for any quid pro quo.

[Selatius]

30. That deal probably led to the disasterous series of assassinations in the 1960s.

If he had put down all those corporatists, likely there wouldn't have been such an internal force within the United States to see leaders like Martin Luther King gunned down. People like MLK had become a devastating threat to the military-industrial complex Eisenhower warned America about.

[Joe Chi Minh]

48. I expect you are right. The people responsible, at the highest levels,

should have been executed as traitors. Perhaps your military budget wouldn't be larger than the rest of the world's put together, either.

[pokercat999]

59. THIS TIME there won't even be a quid pro quo, it will all be

swept under the rug. The new Congress and Admin will continue the go along to get along stance they have taken for the last 8 years. I predict there will be some liberal/progressive actions on a few issues but at the heart of the matter the right will continue to force the Dem's to do their bidding through the use of the corporate media against them on every front. Since their (the Dem's) only real agenda will be re-election they are and will continue to be easily manipulated.

A few solutions would be strict term limits with no possibility of serving in a second, higher or lower office. Eliminate lobbying, I mean make it unlawful and a criminal offense to accept money in exchange for contacting congress in any way. Setup a truth commission under the offices of the Inspector Generals Office to issue clear and concise facts about any issue before the US Government, these issues can be brought to their attention by ANY US citizen and would be required to be acted upon in a timely manner, with appropriate penalties for inaction..........just a start

[Old Codger]

34. My guess

Would be that failure to fully investigate and prosecute will mean a one term president, unless he can come up with something more than "the good of the country" as an out I know I would likely not vote for him second time around..

[defendandprotect]

36. And, without the beginnings of strong third parties, IRV voting ...who would you vote for?

[rucognizant]

62. Would you not vote for him again...........

EVEN IF PALIN WAS running on the repig ticker????????

[Old Codger]

66. of course

I would never vote for that POS as always it would depend on who was running, but the main vote for me would be in the primaries, not necessarily in the GE... A lot can happen in 4 years, but she will be history on Nov.5th 08.

[tomp]

65. if bush/cheney, inc are not convicted and imprisoned....

...during an obama administration, i will never vote for a democrat again, period, because if they can get away with these crimes, then the difference between the parties doesn't matter.

[Vincardog]

7. President Clinton ended the BCCI investigations "for the good of the nation" that is what allowed

the thieves to remain in our government for * 43.
Every important character in the * mis-administration should have been in jail instead of in office.

[MsLeopard]

14. Excellent point

The power elite do tend to circle the wagons and protect themselves. Both parties do it. Will Obama end the trend? Here's hoping. :eyes:

[tomp]

18. doubtful obama will buck the system...

...and the end of my support for the democratic party if he doesn't. no more lesser of two evils bullshit.

the issue of government accountability has always been my #1 issue. nixon, iran contra, bcci, bush, not to mention the myriad other instances---this is the death of america.

[aaronbav]

40. I concur

with you on that point - I was ready to vote against Obama because of the support of the horrendous "bail out", but in this case, the alternative is unthinkable, so THIS TIME I will vote for Obama.

If he in fact governs like a Rethug light, then we have 4 years to mount a TRUE PROGRESSIVE OPPOSITION.

[MsLeopard]

43. I can relate to

your and tomp's opinion, we've been snookered so many times. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi come to mind. And I confess I've had moments of worry over whether Obama will enact real change - I mean, he does come from the conventional route in getting to where he is today, and don't they all play by the same rules? But, I have come to just have a kind of blind faith in a belief that, once elected, he will truly try to help the people. No more fascist drift, no more imperialism, let's build a nation as conceived in the Constitution. I'm hoping, anyway. :shrug:

[tomp]

64. i'm 55 and been involved in and watching politics since the late 60's.

i'm past being snookered. the dems don't fool me. i expect very little but obstruction from them. i am waiting for dennis kucinich to break from the dems. that's about as naive as i get. i think that's possible. i only wish he had done it early this year, like when he was kept out of the debates. i'm surprised he is supporting obama, based on their differences on foreign policy. now with fisa and the bailout added to obama's record, i'm wondering what dennis is waiting for.

but dwe shouldn't expect to electorally defeat u.s. imperialism.

[rucognizant]

63. You got that right!

Kucinich/McKinney ticket! 2012!
With eyes wide open it should have popular support!

[Phred42]

51. He eneded BCCI investigations for the good of his buddy HW Bush

[HillbillyBob]

54. Many of the same folks that were in Nixons administration

were in later Raygun, Boosh 41 same f in criminals bigger and bigger treasons and other crimes.
Like any infection or cancer it all has to be cut out and destroyed, the wound cleaned and cauterized.

[WheelWalker]

55. It might require

irradiation or chemo. They won't like it. :P

[deutsey]

61. Democrats do have a tendency of keeping things "off the table"

I have no reason to believe an Obama administration would be any different.

[proud progressive]

33. parden my french, but that fatf**k rove and dumbf**k gonzo have to pay

[last1standing]

35. Do you have a link for that or are you just talking out your ass again?

n/t

[saras]

57. The two questions are totally uncorrelated

...and that's that.

[Hubert Flottz]

4. I hope Gonzo gets some time in the federal slammer to try and

improve his memory.

[VP505]

5. Oh jeez, one can only hope.

Damn I would love to see Domenici and his lap dogs Pat Rodgers and Steve Bell get indicted along with Rove, nail all them scumbags. Seems odd though that all of a sudden Mukasey get a conscience and starts acting like a AG rather than a shield for the White House criminals. maybe he sees the writing on the wall and has shifted to cover my ass mode.

[loudsue]

23. Mukasey getting a conscience only means Bush is going to pardon them all before

he leaves office.

We REALLY need an amendment to the constitution that says a president cannot pardon anyone involved in an investigation into the wrongdoing of his own party, or family members. There's just too much potential for misbehavior in office when all a president has to do is pardon his fellow partners in crime.

[defendandprotect]

37. Yes . . . we need a lot of adjustments to Presidential pardons!

Look at Poppy Bush and Iran Contra --- and all of those criminals came back to

government!

[cui bono]

39. Yeah, it's a crazy system, just asking to be abused.

Why is it even such a tradition? I can see stepping in and pardoning someone when it has been shown that justice had not been served, but to be able to just pardon anyone at whim? And before they're even indicted? That's nonsensical!

[nashville_brook]

8. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

[truedelphi]

9. I pulled myself and K & R'ed on your behalf

Just read last week's DUZZY's and was laughing quite hard over some DU'er's notion: Palin's pregnant daughter's wedding was announced to the baby's father - who just happens to be Palin's son!

[truedelphi]

10. One reason it's nigh impossible to report on election fraud

by Higher up's is because of the "re-organization" of the Justice Department.

We need the people who made that happen to go to prison for a long long time.

[L. Coyote]

11. "disingenuous after-the-fact rationalizations" protecting the Junta and BUSH!!

[diane in sf]

12. some may call it ominous, I call it promising...

[speedoo]

13. K&R. Great stuff, the truth. Thanks. nt

[DallasNE]

15. Patrick Fitzgerald Was A Victim Too

His fear of being fired was so great that he limited his prosecution to charge only Scooter Libby. The jury in the Libby trial strongly condemned Fitzgerald for only filing the lesser conspiracy charges against Libby and not charging Rove and Cheney.

[yodermon]

32. "jury in the Libby trial strongly condemned Fitzgerald"

first i'd heard that, do u have a link

[DallasNE]

50. "Where's Rove, Where's Cheney"

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1596734,00.html

[defendandprotect]

38. Corporate/monied influences are now too big a challenge to all of democracy...

our government, our laws ---

And I don't see Obama being another FDR --

[Demeter]

17. Oh I Sincerely HOPE So! In Fact, as a Taxpayer and Citizen, I Demand It!

[lonestarnot]

19. K & R!

[Vinnie From Indy]

21. You folks are dreaming if you think ANY Bushie will get nailed for this

Is there any doubt that Smirky will pardon dozens of people as he leaves the White House? While the report is still important, none of these people responsible will ever go to jail UNLESS they perjur themselves in Congressional investigations and hearings after the pardons have been given. It will be the only shot left to hold these folks accountable.

[earth mom]

22. K & R! nt

[Dystopian]

24. KandR...once again, thank you, kpete

peace~

[fascisthunter]

26. Here Ya Go GOP... here's just one of your many Acorns

[SpiralHawk]

27. Let justice be done

Without malice or prejudice. Just follow the letter of the law, and let justice be done.

America deserves no less.

[truedelphi]

28. Error: you have already recommended this thread n/t

[pleah]

31. K&R They couldn't prosecute these bastards fast enough

for me. Thank you kpete.

[Piewhacket]

42. RICO

[WheelWalker]

56. R.I.C.O. sustains me.

[eShirl]

60. SUAVE

:hide:

[1776Forever]

44. The Bushie's thought they could get away with murder since they had all ready hoodwinked so much!

They got caught this time and this may be their Achilles heel!

[quiet.american]

45. Somehow, I can't get excited. How many times have we heard similar. Then NOTHING happens. nt

[OnyxCollie]

46. I need help to answer a question about the U.S. attorneys.

I'm having trouble remembering: Was there a secret provision slipped into a piece of legislation that allowed newly-appointed U.S. attorneys to bypass congressional oversight? I am correct? There was some debate as to which Senator's office it originated from, Specter or Hatch, maybe? Can anyone help me? Thanks.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

47. In the inimitable words of Dumbya, "Bring it on!"

Recommended.

[kestrel91316]

52. Bush will issue blanket pardons for EVERYONE he has appointed.

This will go exactly nowhere.

[Hekate]

53. KICK for Justice

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[emald]

58. oooooohhhh, another report. I bet ol' gwbushit is really worried

sure, someone will pay. Us. You and me. We are the only folks who will ever pay. Heh, dangerous new report. Right.