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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:42 AM
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Scientists Explain Why People Vote Republican
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 09:43 AM by jpertello
Scientists Explain Why People Vote For Republicans

http://gawker.com/5052329/scientists-explain-why-people-vote-for-republicans
Every election season, commentators trot out the old statistics about how more education makes people more likely to support Democrats, more studies are published on how liberal Daily Show viewers are so well-informed, and various smart people try to explain why anyone would ever vote for a Republican, against their "self-interest." This month has seen three alarming and remarkable scientific investigations into Americans' inexplicable habit of voting for George Bush and John McCain. Which means: trend! Hooray! Let's take a look at what America's top scienticians say about fucking idiot flyover losers and their stupid voting:

Conservatives Are Scared A Lot

Rice University Political Scientist John Alford published some research in the creatively named journal Science about a possible biological basis to liberalism and conservatism. Basically, "46 mostly white Midwesterners who self-identified as having strong political beliefs" were shown "threatening images" ("a large spider on someone's face, a bloodied person and maggot-filled wound"). The conservatives were more scared, of all of the images. Or, as Newsweek puts it, "illegal immigrants may = spiders = gay marriages = maggot-filled wounds = abortion rights = bloodied faces. " Liberals were not sensitive to the scary images. Which means they're biologically inferior, because they'd die if a gay spider tried to abort their faces to death. Notable problems with this study: small sample, also wtf this doesn't explain anything.

Conservatives Refuse to Believe "Facts"

The most upsetting and alarming research? Probably Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler's backfire effect study. In that, the political scientists took two groups of volunteers and gave them the Bush administration's prewar claims that Iraq was a threat and had weapons of mass destruction.


One group was given a refutation — the comprehensive 2004 Duelfer report that concluded that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction before the United States invaded in 2003. Thirty-four percent of conservatives told only about the Bush administration's claims thought Iraq had hidden or destroyed its weapons before the U.S. invasion, but 64 percent of conservatives who heard both claim and refutation thought that Iraq really did have the weapons. The refutation, in other words, made the misinformation worse.

This "backfire" effect only worked on conservatives. Even when they varied the source of the refutations, it made no difference—corrections from the New York Times and Fox News both caused conservatives to believe the lies even harder. In other words, objective truth is dead, observable reality is a fairy tale, etc.

Conservatives Have An Entirely Different Moral Code

This should bring you down, a little bit. Jonathan Haidt, a psychologist, wrote a lengthy anthropological investigation into why people vote for Republicans. It's not the Thomas Frank "they are distracted by bullshit" explanation, though it is related: they have different cultural standards of ethics and morality! Liberals and college students define morality as "how we treat each other," conservatives attach more significance to "supporting essential institutions, and living in a sanctified and noble way." Liberals recognize fairness and care as important moral virtues, conservatives add to that loyalty, respect for authority, and duty. The educated moral relativism worldview is fundamentally incompatible with the way like 50% of America thinks, and stereotypes about out-of-touch elitist coastal democrats are basically correct. Sigh.


So What Have We Learned?

Conservatives respond instinctually, not rationally, to scary images, "facts," and institutions. Whether this is innate and biological or cultural seems still up in the air. Democrats can't with with logical arguments or even appeals to the innate rightness of concepts like "diversity" and "tolerance," because those aren't considered essentially good and important by the voters they're trying to appeal to. This does suggest that an appeal to old New Deal institutional concepts like the Welfare State might actually be effective, if they're wrapped in the flag and a sense of duty. Also scientists still consider the majority of Americans to be like a fascinating exotic backwards tribe and the fucking country is doomed.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:44 AM
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1. 2 old high school friends told me once,,,
when you get older, you have to become mroe conservative! I responded to them by saying, EH TU BRUTI?
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:48 AM
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4. No f-ing way I'LL ever become more conservative as I get older! Have you ever heard
that stupid platitude 'when you're 20 if you're not idealistic, you don't have a heart; by the time you're 30 if you're not conservative you don't have a brain'? - or some bullshit like that... and that's what it IS; nothing but bullshit.

By the way, I resent the 'stupid flyover' remark... I've only lived in 'flyover states', two of which are CO & NM which are currently BLUE... there are many smart people outside of the east and west coasts.
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:25 AM
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9. i think its if youre twenty and a conservative you have no brain, if youre fifty and a
conservative than you have no heart.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 12:36 PM
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18. My parents (now in their late 60s) have become more liberal as they age; so have I...n/t
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 08:20 AM
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26. I've become more liberal as I've aged.
I was never a Republican, but I was much more in the middle when I was younger. I look back and realize I was wrong about a lot of things.

Where do they get this tripe?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:47 AM
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2. I didn't need a scientist to tell me that. I
have first hand experience with family members that fit those descriptions.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 09:48 AM
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3. The old bumper sticker was right! "Vote Republican, it's easier than thinking"
Herd behavior.
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Doodler71 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:17 AM
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5. Confirms my theory on republicans... lazy thinkers
they let other people do their critical thinking for them and then just follow.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:25 AM
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6. They needed a study
to show repukes are stuck on stupid?

Oh well, It's always good to have validation.
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MadinMo Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 10:25 AM
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7. My 15 year old son said this morning,
"I can't understand how anyone could LIKE republicans."

I explained that it was a morality thing, hypocritical morality, but mostly morality. The OP is a good explanation, I'll take it to him.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:19 AM
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8. That is right, they are afraid
So they construct in their mind a situation that makes them less afraid, and if reality intervenes, it is reality that loses.

They deal with the fear of job loss with the idea that they are always able to get a job. The market will always provide them with a job or a living. If they believe that, they don't have to worry about it. They will not face up to the idea that there is a chance they one day could not make a living and it be out of their hands.

If they really fear terrorists, the idea terrorist can by controlled by the war in Iraq is amazingly out of touch with reality. But they will actually spout this line of how our being in Iraq "draws" the terrorists there. As if terrorists couldn't plan an attack outside of Iraq.

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:26 AM
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10. Self-Centered Fear
is everyone's problem.

Conservatives are basically trapped in it, and find it easier to give up control to some outside force (jesus, the military, the market) rather than face their fears.

education - and not just MBA-facts-only-education, can help create self-awareness.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:31 AM
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what, did they find some kind of gene that causes racism?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:31 AM
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11. Yeppers on the fear thing
They really do believe commies--er, terra-ists--are hiding under their beds. And I suspect they LIKE being afraid.

Our local rag had a feature story about why some locals are voting Dem or Repug. All the Repugs said the same thing--they were going to vote for McCain because national security is the most important issue, and "he's an expert on national defense."

Okay...whut? They're living their lives petrified that the terra-ists are going to blow up their mall (or whatever) ANY DAY NOW (what a way to live), PLUS they think McCain is the best candidate for national defense? The guy who crashed a bunch of planes and then was taken prisoner and rode out the rest of the Vietnam War as a POW? How in the world does that make him an expert on national defense?

Where's the part of the article that says conservatives Just. Don't. Fucking. THINK? :banghead:

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:34 AM
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12. "a fascinating exotic backwards tribe"
:rofl:




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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:40 AM
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13. I said last pres election
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 11:41 AM by supernova
right here on DU that we would do well to try to not dismiss conservatives fears, but help them cope. They can cope just fine with a liberal government, but they need their fears allayed at the same time.

They are very scared of life's ups, downs, and ambiguities, so someone who purports to be a "strong father" figure is very comforting to them. Of course, it's not rational, but that's them.

And wrapping social programs in talk of "your brother's keeper" and a sense of duty, is the way to win them over.

Nice to see a study that confirms this, albeit, they wouldn't want to agree with me. ;-)
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 12:13 PM
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16. if they are so fearful, (and I'm not disputing that) why
are they so wedded to the idea of "personal responsibility" and social darwinism?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:17 PM
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19. Not a small amount of sadism
involved

If you are used to being dealt with harshly, being told to "buck up" by people in positions of authority can sound comforting. The problem is, they think everyone else thinks the world is a fearful place.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 11:43 AM
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14. Very interesting
THANKS for posting this.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 12:01 PM
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15. Republicans are scared people....
... who willingly submit to what they see as a higher power or authority.

Low self-esteem prevents them thinking for themselves, so they prefer to have ideas and ideals imprinted upon them by these 'guardians'.

No vetting needs to occur, as these higher powers are regarded as infallible...





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SavageDem Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 12:34 PM
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17. Confirms many things I've heard/read on the subject
I think the other thing it doesn't really point out is that conservatives/neocons/Republicans don't deal well with "gray" areas, with the abstract, the unknown, the unknowable. They are concrete thinkers that want everything to fall into neatly defined buckets of right/wrong, black/white, good/bad. And that's why they flock to things like Catholicism, Al Qaeda, the Republican party, my neighborhood: it's a lot easier to - as earlier posters have said - let someone else do the thinking for you and have an answer for everything.

How did the universe come into being? Well, Big-Bang and other scientific theories are just too hard to wrap your head around (what existed before the universe? where is the "end" of the universe? what's beyond the end of the universe?), so just go with the Genesis story and be done with it.

Where did humans come from? Evolution is just so weird and hard to fathom and how could a single-celled organism eventually turn into a person? Much easier to think God/Allah/Yahweh just stuck us here a few thousand years ago, complete with funny tricks for us to puzzle with, like dinosaur bones and Carbon-14, and light from distant galaxies.

Why am I losing my job? Blame it on the damn Mexicans. It's so much easier to find someone who looks/sounds/thinks differently than you to blame than to deal with hard things, like extreme poverty, wage disparity, immigration reform, corporations moving jobs overseas, Walmart crushing competitors and suppliers into oblivion through unfair trade practices supported by a Republican administration. "But Walmart has such good prices!" Never mind that the end effect - of you and millions of others acting in concert - is that your family and others end up with a bankrupt economy and job loss.

<stepping off soapbox>

Good article!
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:32 PM
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20. Why didn't they just say repukes are dumber than rocks?
or at least as dumb as rocks.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:30 PM
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21. I thought it was an unusual concentration of neanderthal alleles.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:44 PM
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22. It does explain why using reason and logic with a Freeper...
is like trying to teach algebra to a dog.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 07:57 PM
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23. Conservatives Refuse to Believe "Facts"
or, as a wise man once put it, "Reality has a well-known liberal bias."

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 08:00 PM
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24. "Conservatives Refuse to Believe "Facts"
Recent events have aptly demonstrated that this phenomenon isn't limited to conservatives.
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 04:58 AM
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25. Conservatives are idiots
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