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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:31 PM
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National Socialism versus The People's Bank of the United States

If the 700 billion dollar bailout bill goes through as a handout to wealthy Wall Street banks then it will amount to nothing more than 'welfare for the rich.' Trickle-down Reaganomics will be firmly in place as it will be argued that, without this handout, credit markets will freeze up, small businesses will be unable to obtain loans, people will lose jobs, blah, blah, blah... The ultra-wealthy obviously have some leverage over the little people.

If, on the other hand, the bailout goes through as a long-term investment where The People are assured that any losses after a certain period of time will be covered by the financial industry, then it might be viewed as a safe investment. The important thing is that this must be worked as a permanently binding agreement, otherwise you know that Democratic lawmakers with no spine, and Republicans, will eventually weasel out of any follow-up responsibilities.

Regardless of how this bill is worked, Republicans will end up in a much stronger position to argue that Democratic spending is unacceptable in light of our vastly expanding debt. Universal healthcare will likely become unacceptable and even Social Security may be in danger.

I realize that this is a somewhat simplified way of looking at a complicated bill, but I would like to hear any counterarguments.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:33 PM
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1. Uh....National Socialism?
You might want to change that.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:35 PM
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2. i think national socialism, i.e. fascism, is what the op believes we'll have if we go for bail out.
i tend to agree.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:39 PM
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4. Only if it is worked largely as handout...

instead of as a responsible investment where the downside risk is absorbed by the financial industry.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:36 PM
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3. I call it as I see it n/t
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:40 PM
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5. People's bank?
Shouldn't that begin by socializing the federal reserve?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 04:47 PM
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6. The People, at least theoretically, have control over this bill...

through their Representatives. We are fortunate that this is happening right before an election.

Socializing the federal reserve might be a good idea in the long run, but this would probably require either a revolution of sorts, or making them (the current Fed) an offer that they simply can't refuse.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:36 PM
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7. kick n/t
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