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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:14 PM
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just saw a clip of McCain from today - his left eye is drooping
His left eye is noticeably lower than his right eye now, and it wasn't that way during the RNC. There is something seriously wrong with him.


unless it's a botched botox job, but he doesn't seem like the botox type


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:14 PM
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1. So is the left side of his lip.
He's all sorts of fucked up.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:16 PM
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4. it wasn't my imagination then
I thought I saw it also. I do think he has had skin tightening treatments though.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:15 PM
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2. Mild stroke?
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:48 PM
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46. Very possible. n/t
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:15 PM
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3. That growth thing on his jaw is also much larger.
I noticed the the eye looked droopy today too. I really don't think he is well. I know he is mentally insane, but physically, he doesn't seem well either. It's the stress.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:16 PM
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5. Stroke? no. Stress, I think.
I just keep thinking of all the people about to get caught with their pants down and I'm afraid Mr. McCain is in this up to his eyeballs. It makes me wonder if he can't take the strain of what's about to be revealed about him.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:19 PM
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11. Wasn't McCain asssociated with the Keating 5?
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:22 PM
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12. Yes and I do believe there is more to come on him
with or without the keating 5. Things just do not add up at all.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:17 PM
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6. Could it have been from a stroke? n/t
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:17 PM
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7. have you ever
tried to put your left foot in pull your right foot out, stick your finger in and move it all about?

The hokey pokey got him.:bounce:
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:55 PM
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23. that's what it's all about
:toast:
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:17 PM
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8. McCain
Maybe he is sick and is using this as an excuse to get some rest?

Meg
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:18 PM
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9. He hasn't looked well in a long time.
And it was unwise of hime to run a campaign in his health. I saw a video of him from 4 years ago, and there was no fricken contest.
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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:18 PM
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10. Or Bell's Palsy?
Could be the beginning stages . . . .
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:10 PM
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30. that may be it- it can come on suddenly
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 07:10 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
my mom-in-law had it happen overnight.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:37 PM
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40. Warning: I am about to be a b*tch
because it sounds like I am making fun of a medical condition...
But Bell's Palsy would be good. I do not wish him any serious medical problem and Bell's Palsy is temporary and not fatal or anything.
But it will make him look strange. Even if they explain the condition it will people uncomfortable to look at him, will remind them of his age (although it isn't a disease of the old) and how fragile health can be at that age...and wonder more about Palin as PRESIDENT.

Way better to have than a stroke too.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:25 PM
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13. no less than two or three hours ago, an Australian friend of mine said EXACTLY the same thing
There was definitely something not right about this appearance.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:28 PM
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14. I agree. I think he's had a stroke or something else.
The entire left side of his face is not right.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:04 PM
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28. Help me out here...
If McPOW had to step down for health reasons, does Sarah move to the top of the ticket? Does the RNC get to call the shots?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:21 PM
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37. RNC would pick someone, probably Romney.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:09 PM
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52. Thanks. n/t
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:29 PM
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15. He's never looked good and now he's looking worse
Stress? He looks ill.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:29 PM
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16. I noticed that today too,
and I was wondering if I had just never noticed it before... Things that make you go "Hmmm..."
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:29 PM
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17. oh yes look at this
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 06:32 PM by seemslikeadream




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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:32 PM
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18. Whoa yeah he doesn't look well at all there
You can't just make half of your face droop like that at will... Perhaps this is what is going on here with the postponement.

The public needs a chance to look at those medical records...
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:34 PM
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19. whoa
bells palsy? could that thing on his cheek be spreading and taking over a nerve? stroke?

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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:50 PM
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22. Damn, that's McTumor on McJaw
nt
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:58 PM
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25. Palin has a wildly asymetrical jaw as well...
...The right side of her jaw is far more prominent than the left.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:04 PM
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29. wow...that IS substantial
if he wins it will be President Palin for sure...

sP
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:14 PM
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33. is it the angle or lighting or does he have no forehead wrinkles
on his left side (right as we see him)? too much botox OR mild stroke? I don't know if Bell's Palsy would do that.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:41 PM
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43. eowyn_of_rohan
:hi:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:39 PM
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41. Weird!! And Chimpy had the same thing going on four years ago around debate time!!
Remember that? Half his face was drooping, and he was drooling in one of the debates.

:wtf:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:07 PM
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51. Hey SLAD. Someone ( I don't remember who) posted a thread
entitled, 'Does this man look sick to you?', and my first thought was absolutely he does. My stepfather died from lung cancer that had metastasized to his brain, but long before anyone knew he was sick, his hair changed, he was forgetful and confused. That thread reminded me of the hair, without the effects of chemo.

I'm not sure how malignant melanoma behaves, but it was familiar to me.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:24 PM
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53. That was me!
Yes my dad died of lung cancer and McCain looks the same
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:33 PM
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54. Sorry, I was stunned and taken a back by what I saw,
and what I remembered, and I didn't respond in your thread. :hug:
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:43 PM
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20. Mini-stroke?
I've read that mini-strokes can cause personality changes too.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:00 PM
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26. We could only hope...
because his normal personality SUCKS!
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:02 PM
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27. a.k.a. Transient Oschemic Attack (TIA)
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/transientischemicattack.html

My Dad had one of these yesterday and I was just reading up on it earlier today.


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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:15 PM
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34. That's a mini-stroke, right?
my grandma used to get them, but it didn't do anything like this to her face
(Hope your Dad is alright)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:24 PM
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39. yes
"A transient ischemic attack (TIA) is a stroke that comes and goes quickly. It happens when a blood clot blocks a blood vessel in your brain. This causes the blood supply to the brain to stop briefly. Symptoms of a TIA are like other stroke symptoms, but do not last as long."



(Thanks; Dad's ok for now and under orders not to drive, at least for several weeks. Going up to see him and Mom tomorrow.)


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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:49 PM
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21. Remember when Amy Goodman had half her face droop
She said it was due to overwork and stress and that it would heal. It did heal.

As much as I dislike McCain I think he's suffered enough physical misery in his life. I hope he's OK.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:56 PM
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24. Could a health issue be the reason he's trying to beg off this Friday?
He has looked ashen for days now, and his eyes seem particularly sensitive to any studio or camera lights. Every time he's been on camera lately, his eyelids rapidly flip open and shut; in one instance they were absolutely fluttering (well beyond the blinking associated with one who's not telling the truth).
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MassLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:11 PM
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31. I noticed the drooping eye, too
Never noticed it before.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:11 PM
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32. Yeah, That left eye is really dead. I just watched it again.
He's really out of it, and that eye looks like it might not be functioning.
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:15 PM
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35. That's what I love about DU
makes me feel like I'm not crazy. I thought the same thing when I saw him speak. Something is going on with him....
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:16 PM
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36. They have a "botox" theory going on over on GD:P
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:22 PM
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38. Brain Cancer
I'm guessing his melanoma has metastasized to his brain. Can we start a pool?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:47 PM
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45. I think you are right.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:40 PM
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42. I wonder if this is the real reason he's talking about postponing the debates?
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:43 PM
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44. could be early stages of myasthenia gravis. n/t
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:48 PM
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47. Funny how the looming question about his health has changed.
First it was, "If elected, will he seek a second term?"

Then it became, "Would he last through a first term?"

Now it's "Will he make it to election day?"

At this rate (assuming he shows up Friday) it will be, "Will he exit the debate standing or in a hearse?"

My Tivo's ready.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:50 PM
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48. Kang? Or Kodos?
Edited on Wed Sep-24-08 07:51 PM by JHB
Obviously the disguise pills are wearing off. Which slimey-alien-out-to-rule-the-world is playing McCain?
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JBear Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:53 PM
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49. I think it is simply fatigue...
I went and looked at several videos of him speaking (with the sound off so I didn't start yelling at the computer) and he has had varying degrees of lag in his left eye over the past week or so. Clearly though in yesterday's speeches he was aware of this. He was intentionally doing a "bright eyed" blink throughout the speech. In fact, it was hard to watch! Today he is probably quite exhausted and it is taking its toll.

I am not trying to diminish the issue though. I think that one of the qualifications for being President is the ability to deal with long hours and high pressure. He has clearly cracked and needs to take a nap.

:bounce:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:58 PM
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50. Is he still shaking?
He's got mild Parkinson's or something similar, or maybe he's just constantly enraged.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:53 PM
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55. He obviously had a major stroke and is in a coma.
The guy you saw is a guy named Dave, who looks a lot like McCain.

David
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