Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations

[im1013]

Source: Democracy Now!

Democracy Now! Headlines for September 22, 2008

Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations

Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command. The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command. The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds.


Read more: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/22/headlines#10

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WHAT IN HELL ARE THEY PLANNING????

[inanna]

1. WTF?!

[fed_up_mother]

15. So...how many soldiers are we talking about here?

Anyone know?

[Subdivisions]

18. 6,500, I think. n/t

[readmoreoften]

31. According to Wikipedia the # of a brigade is 1500-4000.

Give or take whatever Bush says.

[dgibby]

63. In addition,

we have an agreement of "mutual defense" with Canada, so if our gov't asks, Canadian troops will deploy to the states.

[readmoreoften]

79. Yes, I've already figured it's gonna be 4000+ whatever the fuck Bush wants. /nt

[jmowreader]

102. This is a "brigade combat team," not a regular brigade

A Brigade Combat Team consists of:

two to three battalions of whatever combat troops the division is into--usually infantry and/or cavalry
a battalion of field artillery
a battalion of "special troops"--military intelligence, engineers, signal, and air defense artillerymen
a battalion of "support troops"--medical, supply and maintenance

This used to be called a Brigade Task Force and was constituted for a specific operation, but now that we're at permawar those task forces can't be dissolved without fucking everything up, so they made them permanent.

[SharonAnn]

47. Right, WTF? Shouldn't that be the job of the National Guard? What? They're in Iraq?

Jeeez, how did that happen?

[billybob537]

2. sounds like Bush is planning a COUP

Oh crap I should have said coupe d'etat then Bush couldn't have understood.

[foxfeet]

45. It's all right. He still thinks it's a French car. n/t

[readmoreoften]

49. Duzy.

[Oldtimeralso]

67. No He Thinks It's A Two-Door Car. n/t

[JerseygirlCT]

3. WTH?

And, isn't that illegal - unconstitutional?

I know, I know, it's never stopped them before...

[FatDave]

89. Against all enemies, foreign and domestic

That domestic part always bothered me.

[Earth_First]

4. Are you fucking kidding me?!

Not even the general "disaster relief" or "disaster preparedness" just simply:

"...the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds."

[shadowknows69]

11. And the Iraqi population was the test rat

[Flying Dream Blues]

20. That's what caught my attention as well, the transparency that is usually lacking. nt

[Subdivisions]

21. Here's one:

[Canuckistanian]

24. Is that a bird perched on the side of that thing?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was nailed on there just to make it look harmless.

[MsLeopard]

25. Too funny!

I love your cynicism - I didn't think of them nailing a bird on a weapon to make it look harmless, but I'd like to think I would have if given enough time. Good one! :toast:

[inna]

46. OMFG. is this one of those microwave weapons??

holy shit. are they really going to use it on us??

[readmoreoften]

50. Of course. On 60 minutes they had soldiers pretending to be protestors to demonstrate it.

They have just flat out been telling us. They (DHS) are also developing psychological profile scanners for public places to detect nervousness and hostile intent, per USA Today. Won't be finished for 'a few years' though.

[dgibby]

53. don't be so sure

google raytheon, DARPA,non-lethal weapons, operation garden plot, operation end game. lots of juicy stuff there. also, the militarized version of this weapon can "cook" the target from the inside out. Does not bode well for us!

[readmoreoften]

60. Oh I know all about the technologies....

In 2006 grad students were presenting gadgets capable of using MySpace networks to index potential connections to terrorism. Another gadget was featured in Iron Man (only built into the suit) a contraption that can decide if someone is a terrorist. They've been working on it using World of Warcraft research. They say the system is 80% accurate.

We are certainly moving into a late phase in weapons development and the paradigm is about to shift. My sense is that the dehumanization of the Ike folks (maybe washed out to sea, maybe not; unprepared rebellious idiots with little value in the first place, etc.) is a good indication of their increasing ability to create an atmosphere of contempt between citizens.

[mojowork_n]

95. "...an atmosphere of contempt between citizens..."

That's what TV has become, with so many Survivor-type reality shows slotted in among all the "Judge Whatsisname and Judge Whatsername" programming.

In better days (before the people who pay for the shows found out they could get along fine without good writers) a lot of the scripts and storylines were about love. Or, like Alfred Hitchcock or Rod Serling's programs, they had interesting, fully-drawn characters in classic short stories.

No wonder "nostalgia TV" channels are so popular.

[barbtries]

5. this is really ominous

they make me sick.

[amandabeech]

6. Expectation of riots if Obama loses.

In the '60s, it was the National Guard. They're all in Iraq, so now we have the army. Quelle surprise.

Frankly, the Guard would be better. They're under state direction when at home, and would be more likely to refuse unreasonable orders if things came to that, which I hope they don't.

On edit: Better the army than Blackwater, although I'm sure they're ramping up, too.

[readmoreoften]

29. That's why they suspended posse comitatus. We're not supposed to have the fed army on our own soil.

This was a huge "check" in the checks and balances of our system.

[Xithras]

32. The suspension was repealed.

Keep that in mind when people claim that the Democrats haven't "done anything" since getting control over Congress. The articles of the Insurrection Act that suspended Posse Comitatus were repealed in the 2008 Defense Authorization Act. We're back to the old rules.

Maybe somebody just forgot to tell Bush.

[readmoreoften]

37. And forgot to tell the Army and forgot to tell Congress?

Repealed with what sorts of new provisions and backdoors built in. This is the question.

[Xithras]

42. Congress has always been a backdoor to Posse Comitatus.

The text to the Posse Comitatus Act:

Sec. 1385. - Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.


Posse Comitatus limits domestic deployments to those uses authorized by Congress. The original Insurrection Act created certain exceptions giving the President power to put down genuine rebellions. The 2006 Rethug modification reworded the Insurrection Act to include basically any event the President defined as a serious emergency (They're not voting for me, it's an emergency!) The 2008 Leahy modifications completely struck the 2006 change and restored the original wording, letter for letter.

The ONLY backdoor (and there is just one) covers situations where federal rights are being violated in a state, and the state government is unwilling to do anything about it (or is colluding). My "blocking voters from the polls" example in another post is an illustration of that. It's the same authority we used back in the 1960's to send in the Army to forcibly desegregate some of the South.

[Raksha]

52. Are you sure they were repealed?

I want to read the fine print in the Defense Authorization Act before I believe that.

[Syrinx]

7. Army Times

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

[leftchick]

75. using troops that are fresh from Iraq? With PTSD and god knows what else?

this smells so cheney-evil like. :scared:

[bdamomma]

77. you know I was thinking the same thing.

those troops that come back with many psychological problems may transfer their experiences of warfare on to us, totally flipping out and mistakely thinking we are the enemies and that they are still in Iraq. :tinfoilhat:

[Canuckistanian]

8. WHAT 'civil unrest'?

I don't like the sound of this.

I've also been hearing of various police forces suddenly getting shipments of riot gear.

WTF is going on?

[im1013]

10. Sounds to me like...

they're planning 1 of 3 probable things:

1. Massive vote thievery, thus causing McLame to win and riots to ensue.

or

2. Taking out Obama, thus causing McLame to win and riots to ensue.

or

3. A convenience little "ter'rist attack", thus suspending the election entirely.

My bet is #1. But, all options equally bad.


:nuke:

[CatholicEdHead]

12. #4 Total Economic Collapse

[offog]

17. This scares the crap out of me too,

:-( even though I'm Canadian and in Canada. For one thing, I really want to see the Americans get better government because you deserve it. Also, I don't like the idea of living next door to a police state/military dictatorship. I'm already afraid that a Republican administration will invade Canada for its oil and water.

Science fiction writer Robert A. Heinlein wrote a novel "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" many decades ago. It's about a Moon colony fighting for independence. Heinlein's politics are way right wing, but this novel is practically a step-by-step guide on how to set up a resistance/revolutionary movement. It even gives detailed instructions on how to set up resistance cells.

I think that all you progressives out there should look for it and read it. Libraries may have it, and the Science Fiction Book Club may have some copies. I got one for my Mom from SFBC a couple of years ago, and also found a copy for myself at my local used book store.

[mojowork_n]

98. My guess is Obama is actually allowed to win.

Then, before he's allowed to actually do anything, he has a fatal accident with Cherries and Milk (a la Martin Van Buren):

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/29/135238/064

or whatever.

President Biden turns out to be the Overlords/DeepState's backup plan, much as Joe Lieberman was in 2000.

What's he even doing on the ticket? The Senate's resident steward and full-time concierge for all those Delaware corporations, and defense contractors.

[Frisbee]

13. Probably getting ready for...

When Obama has clearly won by 5-10% and they hand the election to McCain anyway.

OTOH

Everybody has been calling McCain a 3rd Bush administration, who's to say we won't get the real thing. I'm quite sure they would jump on any reason to declare martial law and postpone the elections indefinitely. That would almost certainly lead to widespread rioting. You don't think they've been building all of those secret detention/concentration camps just for al Quida, do you?

[dgibby]

61. anything your Gov't wants it to be

Nonviolent demonstrations, marches, whatever. Enemies of the "state" include, but are not limited to, activists such as animal rights groups, liberals, progressives, Democrats, Independents, non-Christians,etc. Oh, I almost forgot the Media. Did you see what happened to the reporters covering the protesters in St Paul? St Paul city council voted to allow DHS to run that show. We are in deep shit, people!

[GreenPartyVoter]

92. The civil unrest that will occur when either

** refuses to leave office or Mc** steals it.

[central scrutinizer]

9. dupe - posted earlier

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4036241

[Subdivisions]

23. I posted it even before that thread. Some saw mine, some

saw the one you linked. Some will see this and the other one active today. This is one of those items that everyone needs to see.

[Frisbee]

14. Get ready for your October surprise!

:scared:

[tom_paine]

74. Yep. Oct. Surprise 2008 is gonna be shocking to the National Nervous System. That's all I know.

And, yes, just like the Bushie August pre-"election" proxy war of 2008 was more shocking and powerful (because of the added element of the Cold War and the old jitters easily reawakened) that the August 2006 Israeli version, so likely shall the 2008 version of The 2004 October Surprise be more shocking and powerful than the 2004 version.

Come Nov. 7th, we may view the Bush-Bin Laden Production 2004 October Surprise Produced by Bushie Films, al-Qaeda Division, as tepid and mild compared to what they are going to do to make sure this thing stays close enough to steal with a big enough margin to shut up complainers and tranquilize the rest of the Subject populace.

I cannot guess what it will be. There is even a small chance (very small) that it will be a "pleasant" shock, like the Bushies producing Bin Laden's corpse and pretending they "captured it yesterday".

But Bushies are Bushies, at heart, and the "pleasant shock" probably won't seem "strong enough" to them. They want people shocked, disorganized, confused and scared. Like the two videos of Bin laden and the American al-Qaeda, which were the specific films in the Bush-Bin Laden Production 2004 October Surprise Produced by Bushie Films, al-Qaeda Division.

And thus I suspect the shock will not be pleasant but most painful, whatever it is. The Bushie Georgian Op on Steroid, perhaps. They can't be planning to LIHOP 9/11 us again, can they?

Probably not, but one never knows with authoritarian America-Haters like the Bushies. We will soon find out what they have planned.

But that an October Surprise is planned for us by the Bushies? 99% certainty, though I suppose remotely possible we won't have one.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

81. Re: About the lie they're telling us, the one about "Russia invading Georgia"...

...it's a hoax, Georgia drew first blood. I started a thread about this lie that may be used to provoke WWIII, but it got no attention.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4059764&mesg_id=4059764

[tom_paine]

87. Well, the Bushiganda wouldn't WORK if people had that "little" piece of information

So like magic, people don't have it.

The "magic" of the totalitarian state, even the newfangled kinder and gentler Inverted Totalitarianism practiced, for the moment, by the Bushies.

[nc4bo]

16. Geezus!!!!!! Not a good sign. Riots, protesting, rebellions, revolutions?

To be able to stamp down all signs of dissent in the quickest way possible.

[Xithras]

34. Well, rebellions and revolutions would be a legitimate use of them anyway.

As bad as this is, there are certain powers that have always been inherent to the federal military. Suppressing genuine rebellions is one of them, though I don't think we've had one of those since the Civil War.

[readmoreoften]

39. Then the military should have ousted the Bush Administration during the coup.

[greblc]

19. I am a registered Veterans for Obama supporter.

I wonder if that puts me on the short list?

[dgibby]

55. if you're posting on DU, you're on the short list!

Isn't that right, Agent Mikie?

[Ilsa]

100. Higher post counts probably bring higher priority! nt

[tnlurker]

22. How do we reach the individual soldier and ask them to disobey

The orders to shot at us and suppress us. If you personally know any members of this division or any member of your local police departments you need to have a talk with them about joining the protests and not siding with the authoritarians who will be giving the orders to engage any domestic disturbances.

[Subdivisions]

26. My first cousin is assigned to "Ready", which is part of the 1st BCT, 3rd ID and

I think it's illegal to interfere with military operations. I haven't spoken with her, which is weird in itself. Can't get her on the phone. She knows how I feel about the war. Maybe she's avoiding me because she knows about this. I'll still try now and then to call her.

[tnlurker]

38. You will not be interfering with military opeations

I reminded my nephew the it was okay to disobey unlawful orders given by his superiors before he deployed to Iraq.
That is part of the military code of justice.
Oppressing the US population is not part of their oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

[jimshoes]

27. So this is how it's going to be huh?

Americans ordered to inflict harm on other Americans in America, well fuck me.

[readmoreoften]

35. Yes, yes. Fucking you is the point, friend.

Me too.

[readmoreoften]

28. Yak yak yak "All you conspiracy loons" yak yak yak "prePOSTerous" yak yak yak.

"Bad people will never do bad things, I say! It is perfect balderdash to pose such obscene questions! Hildegaard, darling, please fetch me my brandy and tell Antonio to shoe the new horses by morn or we simply won't pay for the lace to add to his daughter's hem for the wedding"

[tom_paine]

73. LOL! Wonderful! Well said and HUZZAH!

Bad people will never do bad things might I just add ONLY when positions of authority or if on TV reading "news".

The Bad People they show on Entertainment Tonight, The Situation Room, and every night at 6 and 11pm... oh THEY do bad things. Oh my yes. But NEVER when in positions of authority. Nope.

:rofl:

[Xithras]

30. Isn't that what the NATIONAL GUARD is for? This is illegal.

... to serve as an on-call federal response in times of emergency...

Traditionally, military service in response to disasters has been directed by state governors via their own states National Guard units. "Helping your neighbors during disasters" has been one of the core recruiting claims for the National Guard for as long as I can remember.

the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control.

So is civil unrest and being in an uncontrolled crowd now a federal offense? Where does the federal government get the authority to exercise domestic law enforcement duties in support of non-federal (state) laws. Last I checked, there's no federal law against rioting.


Here's the problem for the Bushistas. Posse Comitatus prohibits these actions. The so-called "Insurrection Act" managed to overturn Posse Comitatus, but the 2008 Defense Authorization Act repealed those provisions. Under CURRENT law, the federal military can only be employed domestically if federal rights laws are being denied in a state AND the government of that state refuses to do anything about it. If a state decided to deny women the right to vote, for example, and that states law enforcement actively blocked women from the polls, the President could send in the Army to open them back up to everybody. Other than that, the federal government has NO right to assign ANY federal soldier to law enforcement duties without having a specific invitation from the governor of the state that enforcement is to happen in.

[readmoreoften]

33. Apparenly they were not repealed well enough. If it were the case Congress and the Military would

not be permitting this or at least huffing. And if they're not at least huffing and Posse is still on the books, then it's a very large coup indeed.

[Xithras]

41. Well enough? It was completely reverted.

The Presidents right to control the federal army on domestic soil was directed by the Insurrection Act of 1807. Posse Comitatus prohibits it outright without Congressional approval, but the Insurrection Act outlined certain exceptions to help the government fight genuine rebellion. It was created after Shays Rebellion, the Whiskey Rebellion, and other incidents illustrated that there WERE certain situations where federal troops should legitimately be used on domestic soil. The original act said that it could ONLY be used during situations of "insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy." In other words, genuine attempts to overthrow the government.

In 2006 the Rethugs rewrote the section to be used during a "natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition." That last "other condition" was the real kicker, since it essentially meant that the President could deploy them whenever he though the "condition" warranted it. While the rest of it was attacked for undermining the rights of the governors, it was those last two words that usurped Posse Comitatus and gave the President unlimited power to deploy troops to any kind of incident.

Patric Leahy's 2008 Defense Authorization Act contained these lines:

SEC. 1068. REPEAL OF PROVISIONS IN SECTION 1076 OF PUBLIC LAW 109-364 RELATING TO USE OF ARMED FORCES IN MAJOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES.

(a) Interference With State and Federal Laws-
(1) IN GENERAL- Section 333 of title 10, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
Sec. 333. Interference with State and Federal law

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy

In other words, it reset the language back to its original 1807 phrasing. There's NO room for interpretation there. If it was illegal before the Rethug modification in 2006, it's illegal again after Leahy's modification in 2008.

As for why nobody is screaming about it, I'd guess that word simply hasn't spread enough yet.

By the way, Posse Comitatus is one of the few federal laws that carried penalties capable of putting a sitting President in PRISON for its violation.

[readmoreoften]

44. Well that's good news. On paper at least.

I wonder why Bush et. al. are taking such a large risk. My bet is that they're banking that there will be no one to oppose them. What you're saying then, basically, is that the Army and the Bush Administration are openly planning a crime, possibly a coup.

In that case, hasn't he ALREADY violated Posse by organizing this standing brigade on US soil? Is there any reason why he cannot be brought up on charges immediately.

[readmoreoften]

51. Can we arrest him now? Any opinion?

[Xithras]

94. For this? No.

Posse Comitatus bans the use, not the organization. There's nothing illegal about having the President organize federal soldiers for domestic law enforcement. It's only illegal for him to actually order them into use. Fine line, but the line is there and so far he hasn't crossed it.

[dgibby]

57. So the John Warner Defense Act is extinct?

[druidity33]

69. executive order?

And this sentence that you underlined seems REALLY vague...


"The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy"


The operative word in that sentence is any.



Shrub could easily abuse the law and then set his lawyers to delay, obfuscate, stall, destroy... hasn't that been the pattern for the last 7 years or so?


I think it will be up to our military men and women to refuse the orders. I think by bringing them back here and "training" them for the job, they are really trying to desensitize them. I wonder if any of the Brigade is allowed extended contact with civilians while "deployed" here?




Scarier than the Financial thing going on if you ask me.....


:(

[tama]

71. Yup

Time for more legaleze. That will scare them!!!

[ReadTomPaine]

90. Bingo Xithras. Nicely said.

:thumbsup:

[Naturyl]

36. Um... not good. Just not good. (n/t)

[vanderBeth]

40. Uh-oh...

:scared:

[bdamomma]

43. I do not like the sound of this at all.

but there are more of us than them. I keep on telling myself.

maybe we should send this article to Rachel, maybe she can do some investigative probing on this.

[K Gardner]

48. I feel like we're watching something happen. Only I don't know what.. or I'm too scared to realize

that I do know, and just won't accept it. After all, how could they have the nerve?

How did Germany?

[LynnTheDem]

54. Good bye America,

You were beautiful once.

[Postman]

56. People get unruly when elections are stolen.

It's so reassuring to know that the military is on-call to protect the Constitution from being used.

[dgibby]

58. Martial Law,

cancellation of the election, suspension of Congress, for starters. They are following the PNAC/NWO play book to the letter. It's the Shock Doctrine in action. This market meltdown is the economic equivalent of 9/11, and was carefully planned. It's no accident, imo. Everything is in place to install what the neocons call the Unitary Executive (aka dictatorship). It doesn't matter if you think the Bush adm LIHOP or MIHOP, the fact is 9/11 served the neocon purposes very well, ie, the systematic dismantling of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the corruption of the Justice Dept, etc. They are not going to stop until they achieve their goals or until we stop them. I think we're entering very dangerous territory. If Obama is far ahead of McCain, I don't think we'll have an election, so I would be prepared for another "incident" on the level of 9/11 (not necessarily an attack) to enable them to declare Martial Law.

[Hekate]

59. Combat hardened troops are going to be deployed against their own people (us).

What do you think those troops are being told about their mission? I would like to know, in detail. Is anyone talking?

Have I mentioned lately how much I hate George W. Bush and his cabal?

Hekate

[dgibby]

62. they will be told they're from the gov't and they're there to help.

[CitizenPatriot]

64. bad news

they don't need to declare martial law. bush signed a statement in may of 07 giving him sole authority if the country is in a state of emergency, domestic or otherwise. There will be no changing of the guard if he deems it so.

he has signed us into a permanent state of emergency as well.

you can go the gov website and read his signing statements, which never get any press, if you want to get a full idea of the scope of this.

I've been going on about this for a year -- but it's fallen on deaf ears.

WTF did he do that for if he isn't planning on using it?

[dgibby]

65. I agree

I don't think he's planning to turn it over to McINsane and Gov Tundra Trash. There is a lot of bad blood there. God knows, he isn't going to let a Dem have it, so that gets us back to that old saying he's so fond of: "It would be a lot easier if this was a dictatorship as long as I'm the dictator".

[bdamomma]

78. this is what you are talking about?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

[CitizenPatriot]

82. that looks like the one

Dictator Bush strikes again.

DIrective 51- yes. this is it.

[bushmeister0]

66. We went over this a couple days ago.

Some additional info from previous post:

Commander William Adama: "There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people." (From a TV show the Emmy's decided didn't rate!)

Found this quote at a UK blog which posted this story in Jan of last year.

"An SAS unit is now for the first time permanently based in London on 24-hour standby for counter-terrorist operations, The Times has learnt.
The basing of a unit from the elite special forces regiment "in the metropolitan area" is intended to provide the police with a combat-proven ability to deal with armed terrorists in the capital.

The small unit also includes surveillance specialists and bomb-disposal experts.

Although the Metropolitan Police has its own substantial firearms capability, the fatal shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes, the Brazilian electrician who was mistakenly identified as a terrorist bomber on the run, has underlined the need to have military expertise on tap."

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/sas_troop...

Sound familiar?

Operation Garden Plot:

"If any civil disturbance by a resistance group, religious organization, or other persons considered to be non-conformist takes place, under Appendix 3 to Annex B of Plan 55-2 hereby gives all Federal forces total power over the situation if local and state authorities cannot put down said dissenters.

Annex A, section B of Operation Garden Plot defines tax protesters, militia groups, religious cults, and general anti-government dissenters as Disruptive Elements. This calls for the deadly force to be used against any extremist or dissident perpetrating any and all forms of civil disorder."

http://www.uhuh.com/control/garden.htm

Scary stuff.

See Operation Endgame also, a dryrun for detention of masses of Americans. Ollie North's old REX-84 with lipstick.

http://www.visalaw.com/04jun3/15jun304.html

original government link has disappeared. Hmmm . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4036241&mesg_id=4036241

[intheflow]

68. Isn't this what the National Guard is supposed to be for?

Of course, if they're all in Iraq, you might as well bring regular Army in to do their jobs. :puke:

[tama]

70. This:

"This will end with riots on the street" - a highly positioned Wall Street insider about the resent events in the epic of "systemic crisis of capitalism".

TPTB don't give a shit about democracy. All they care for is protecting what they own/have stolen -> crowd control as the TOP priority.

[MiniMe]

72. Perhaps a "pandemic flu" outbreak?

They could use this as a reason to cancel/postpone the election under the guise of no large gatherings will be permitted and that we need to shelter at home. I'm hoping that this is a real tinfoil hat theory. But would any of us put it past the * administration?

[dgibby]

108. It is definitely NOT tinfoil

[mmonk]

76. The story below that one is interesting too.

Vermont Candidate Pledges to Prosecute Bush for Murder


In Vermont, the Progressive Party candidate for state attorney general says she plans to prosecute President Bush for murder if she is elected.

[bdamomma]

80. go here too.

and please give if you can.

http://www.prosecutegeorgebush.com/index.htm

[mmonk]

85. Thanks

[Kolesar]

83. Democrats win, riots break out in gated communities all over America

...and those are the headlines.

[pnutbutr]

84. The Army report on this that has additional information

if anyone cares. I'm not big on condensed and edited reports. You never know what's being left out.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

[doc03]

86. If the coming depression is anything like the 1929

depression they will be needed to stop the civil unrest. Most people have no idea of how bad things can get, ask a older person that remembers the Great Depression. Can you imagine what it would be like when you have 25%-30% unemployment and people lose their life savings. I think most people will be happy we still have the right to bear arms you will need guns to protect what you have. I would not be surprised that whoever wins the election has to declare Marshall Law. People in the country lived on wild game and beans back in the 30s. My mom and dad told about how they survived the Great Depression in West Virginia. The farmers would get together and haul their produce to the big cities like Pittsburgh and Baltimore just to get maybe 3 cents for a dozen eggs. They said they never wore shoes in the summer and in the winter the more fortunate kids would have to put cardboard in their shoes if they had any to fill the holes. Those less fortunate ones would wrap their feet in rags to walk to school in the cold weather.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

88. Be Prepared for Order 66

Target all Democrats...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Order_66

yes, I am quite nerdy from time to time.

[sofa king]

91. I knew it.

I'm adjusting my prediction once again. I now weigh it 56%-44% that the next President will be... George W. Bush.

[cyberpj]

93. Tin foil hat time - chemicals

My husband and I were just noticing how many catastropy type shows - especially on the History Channel - there were lately that dealt with airborne chemical releases. We're both used to believing anything of Bush gov so we said we wouldn't be surprised if they were putting these out there to prepare people so they wouldn't be SO surprised if/when it happens.

From the army's article:
"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."

[dgibby]

104. google: chemtrails

[intheflow]

96. Kicking this b/c I'd like to see it get up on the new and improved GP

with a "Must Read" rating.

[dgibby]

105. I did that ,too.

This is very, very serious, and needs to be read by everyone on DU,imo!

[dkofos]

97. I thought that was the National Guards job.

[natrat]

99. thank you nancy pelosi, you scumbag pig, for standing up to these monsters

[Psyop Samurai]

101. Why isn't this thread showing up on the greatest page?

:shrug:

[dgibby]

106. because you need to recommend it if you haven't already.

[LiberalHeart]

103. K&R

[Marie26]

107. Isn't that illegal under Posse Comitatus? nt