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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:22 PM
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what caused the late day JUMP in the stock market?
last time I looked down 100, end up 300.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:26 PM
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1. profit takers
sucker rally
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:36 PM
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11. Yup. Thread over. The correct answer is right here. n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:27 PM
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2. Greenspan farted?
I kid.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:28 PM
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3. McCain placed a call and told them to straighten up. n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:28 PM
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4. same thing that's been keeping it from tanking: artificial life support
the bergermeisters pumping liquidity in the market so they can continue to make the claim that all is well.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:30 PM
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6. Quite obviously. Last night Hang Seng was down 8% then the market shut down and it was up.
That's a lotta liquid.
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:29 PM
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5. RTC ....ROFLMAO
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 02:30 PM by mrJJ
Paulson spewed some crap about forming an RTC... Like allowing the banks to sell their foreclosed homes to the Government; so the banks can clean up their balance sheets. ROFLMAO We'lll own AIG in 24 months if they dont cover their "loan". No way can the Taxpayer afford about 3 trillion in foreclosed homes. UNLESS the government wants to go into the real estate biz.

Paulson doesnt have the Power under the law to form an RTC. I'm selling into the bumps.

Its all smoke and mirrors!
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:01 PM
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21. so instead of doing a bailout....we'll let them fail
and then buy them up and then pay other financial companies to take them off our hands?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:31 PM
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7. Last minute infusion of cash again...
I expect we'll see this type of thing until the cash runs out, unless they just print more.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:38 PM
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13. And our dollars are worth less every time
from what I understand.. Bush is going to do this to prop up the Repukes unti Nov. 4 ...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:01 PM
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29. Our dollars had dam little value in the first place
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:31 PM
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8. Creating a repository for banks' bad debt
NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks are surging with the Dow Jones industrials up more than 300 points following a report that the federal government is considering creation of a repository for banks' bad debt.

CNBC said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is considering creation of an entity like the Resolution Trust Corp. that was formed after the failure of savings and loan banks in the 1980s.

The Dow, which had been showing modest moves in the final hour of trading, jumped nearly 330 points to the 10,939 level following the report.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080918/wall_street.html
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kurt_cagle Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:42 PM
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16. Oh happy days!
All we need to do now is for Paulson to take over the health care sector and buy up the auto and airline industry and in one fell swoop, George Bush will have accomplished what no liberal president has ever achieved - the complete nationalization of the US economy. Without even trying, Bush has turned the US Communist. What a legacy!!

:sarcasm:

The Russians must be rolling on the floor with laughter about this one.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:32 PM
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9. Henry Paulson
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 02:34 PM by Dorian Gray
said that they were going to institute regulation against short sellers and hedge funds. People like that news.

Goldman and Morgan Stanley are PISSED off, and they are going to come out swinging. People like that news, too.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/96203-hedge-funds-may-have-gone-too-far?source=yahoo



and



http://biz.yahoo.com/cnbc/080918/26770386.html?.v=1
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:34 PM
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10. Lipstick on a pig is the best the GOP can hope for
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:40 PM
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14. They'll be pumping into the election having noticed Obama's bump
dang
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:37 PM
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12. Paulson thinks he is a hero. He announced a new agency to deal with debt
.. that plus the short selling rule is working for the moment .. oh an some 300 billion injected into the markets.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:40 PM
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15. Resolution Trust Corporation II rumor. Funny how a rumor can
move billions of dollars around.

RTC II means that taxpayers get to pay the bad debt. Woo-hoo!
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:43 PM
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17. Putnam dumped a huge money market fund
15 billion dollars for institutional investors to beef liquidity..

this will probably be bad.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:49 PM
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18. Volatility is High
Market is deeply oversold. Lots of panic and uncertainty. A lot of speculators out there looking for a daytrading bounce.

The breakdown in the markets was seen by many to be excessive and overdone. The volume looked to some like capitulation, a pattern which triggers a rally.

Tommorrow is triple witching hour, which is often unusually unstable, although it's impossible to predict whether the effect will be up or down.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:52 PM
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19. thanks for the answers
1) RTC redux
2) profit taking
3) preparation for triple witching hour
4) why not
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:53 PM
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20. up 450.... everything is fixed....
of course, this was after how many billions poored into this market?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:19 PM
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25. what was it 180 billion or 250 billion injection? and all we get is 400 points?
sounds like a really shitty trade off to me.

if that kind of dough only gets us this much, we are in such major deep shit it's terrifying.

I suspect as always, the very brief moment of uphoria of this 400 point jump will vanish in the haze come monday it tanks yet again.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:21 PM
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26. That's alot of money for 400 points, isn't it....
so what now?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:47 PM
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27. Pray damn you PRAY!!! LOLOLOL
your guess is as good as mine. LOL
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:02 PM
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22. Short covering (nm)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:15 PM
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23. Rumors of a long-term government bailout. Paulson is proposing some agency to take on bad debt.
They should be tried for treason.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:18 PM
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24. PPT working overtime, spreading the injection over the day, + the RTC rumors
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:53 PM
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28. And what needs to be remembered is that Stammerin' Hank's Revelation is STILL JUST A RUMOR
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 03:56 PM by TheWatcher
This is the "Magical Rumor" Strategy once again, or as I've become accustomed to calling it, "The Power Of Bullshit."

It's really amazing if you think about it.

There is no plan in place, nothing that has been outlined, no specific details have been laid out.

Only a rumor of the resurrection of the INGENIOUS plan in 1980 that allowed them to "Hide The Meltdown" last time and stick the taxpayers with the Bill.

So basically all this was based on what Wall Street does best.

HOT AIR.

Now, if we remember the last fiasco in 1980. it cost the taxpayer ONLY $500 Million, if I remember correctly. (Someone out there correct me if I am wrong.)

I wonder how much it will cost us THIS time, since this is like comparing a firecracker to a fucking VOLCANO.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:03 PM
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30. we the taxpayers are going to take on their bad debt. exciting news, isn't it?
lucky us.
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