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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:50 AM
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The bloody VOICE!!!
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 12:51 AM by canetoad
Belatedly doing my homework and watching the Gibson interview. Forget the content (or lack thereof), the only things I hear are nasality, rising inflections, strange and arbitrary emphasis on words and, and......NUKULAR

ed: typo
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:52 AM
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1. Why do people here never complain about men's voices?
I would take this more seriously except I heard it so many times about Hillary.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:53 AM
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2. Oh geez...Hillary and that fake northeastern accent...fingernails on chalkboard
Palin's reminds me of Francis McDormand (sp?) from her role in Fargo

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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:01 AM
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6. Great minds think alike. I already call Palin
"Marge Gunderson."
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:03 AM
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17. Actually, Hillary's isn't a "fake northeastern" accent .
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 02:03 AM by pnwmom
It's a typical Park Ridge, Illinois accent, flat vowels and all.


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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:54 AM
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34. Yeah, and a year before that it was all Arkansas.
It's amazing, she instinctively adapts her accent to the locale she's pandering to.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:38 AM
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40. Except for lapses during an occasional trip down south, she is consistently
a Chicago area person in her accent. Never the northeast.

Many people find themselves slipping into a southern accent when they visit there.

Why are we still dumping on Hillary, by the way? Don't we still need her -- and her supporters?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:50 AM
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59. Haha...yeah, you're right. I just think it's funny when people change their accent to pander.
It's a faux pas on both sides of the aisle.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:48 AM
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42. LOL!!
I call Palin, "Marge on helium."

:rofl:

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:57 AM
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3. Lindsey Graham and Phill Gramm. Their voices SUCK
and its not the southern thing either because I grew up and still live in the south.

I know I've complained about their voices too.

Palin's voice is just plain horrible.

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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:43 AM
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11. And she makes that little smarmy smacking noise before she begins to speak
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:49 AM
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44. Where is Phil Gramm from?
I always thought he had that Texas accent more than a real Southern one.

(I'm Southern, too).
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:10 AM
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8. Oh I complain about liebermans voice
GOD it irritates me to no end x( I can't listen to him I have to turn him off. Worse than listening to boosh and I'd definitely prefer listening to nails on a chalkboard than hear one peep outta liebermans maw.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:37 AM
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36. I ALWAYS think of the guy on Alf! Sounds just like him! LOL n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:17 AM
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52. LMAO!! Yeah!
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:05 PM
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55. E-Gads... you're right
:rofl:
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:32 AM
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10. Oooh, ooooh, can I complain about some men's voices?
Chris Matthews, Joe Lieberman, Bush*, Lindsey Graham all have HORRIBLE voices that make me want to throw a shoe through my t.v. whenever I hear them. Oh, and Rod Decker, a local newsman has the worst voice on the planet.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:00 AM
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13. Thank you. Actually, I think John McCain has a much worse voice than Palin.
But both of them send shivers down my spine.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:11 AM
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19. With McCain, it's his speech pattern that gets to me more than his actual voice.
Drives me clear up the wall.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:08 AM
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32. He schlurrrrssh his ehssssessshhh. Can't take it. No wonder his wife took drugs for pain.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 04:17 AM by Judi Lynn
(slurs "S's.)

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:23 AM
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24. Your list works for me, but for the last one, never heard that voice.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:54 AM
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25. Consider yourself lucky. nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #10
47. duhbya with his fake Texan accent. His mush mouth speech. Like fingernail on a chalkboard.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:20 AM
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23. Woody Guiliani has a terrible voice - that lisp and whine are nauseating
He's perfect on the gesticulations though.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:05 AM
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31. What can possibly be worse than Jaaames Sensennnnnbrennnnnerrrrr?
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 05:05 AM by Judi Lynn
Also, the voices and accents of so many other Republican senators. O Mi God. Oh, jesus.

Is there anything worse? Republicans are such ugly people. Ugly in manner, ugly in attitude, ugly in vocal expressions, ugly in "vallyuhs" (values) and dumb as mud.

People with ugly world views are almost uniformly ugly in all their traits, thoughts, expressions, appearances. It can never successfully be concealed.





Seersucker Day in the Senate. WooHOOOOOO.



Braaaadddleeeeey Schlooooooozzzmannnnn.


Examples of that great Schlozman voice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKBmzDDwX0w&feature=rela...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlXgnKHKy0E&feature=rela...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXbSVy9neJY
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 04:44 AM
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33. I've complained about the Bushes, father and son
Pappy I could not stand - had to turn the TV off back in the day.

Reagan's condescending tone drove me nuts.

Good voices and bad cut across both sexes. Hillary's isn't particularly good. It doesn't mean there aren't women with good voices. McWar's voice sucks. Doesn't mean there aren't men with good voices.


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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:01 AM
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37. the elder Bush sounded whiney all the time...
the younger one, too, but Dad was worse.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:58 AM
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39. The sound of Bush's voice makes me want to scream
The way he mangles the language is far worse than his fake Texas drawl which he's so proud of. He tries to use big words but even when they're written in very large letters he still manages to fumble them. Chertoff's voice is nerve wracking too. Rumsfeld's voice is brittle and sarcastic and I'm glad he's no longer doing his crappy immitation of being a human being on TV. Sean Hannity is shrill and hits you like machine gun bullets. Swartzennegger's limited vocabulary and thick accent makes you wonder why he hasn't dropped some of that accent after all these years. It makes me think he's too lazy to pronounce words that he hears on a daily basis. He can't pronounce the 'th' in that. It still comes out as 'dat'.
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:45 AM
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41. Ok, I will......
W's voice and assination of the English language makes me want to bash in the Tv.
Sarah Palin's voice is a pageant contestant, trying to bluff the judges.
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Andy Canuck Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:49 AM
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43. I can't stand McCain's voice.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:09 AM
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49. I complain about Joe Lieberman's voice all the damn time
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:14 AM
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51. Ok... I'l do it...I can't stand:
George W. Bush's hick smug self-righteous frat boy mix.

I never liked Reagan's "well"..sigh.. over bearing paternalistic sound.

I find Bill O'Reilly's voice pompous and irritating

I find Rush Limbaugh's voice utterly pompous and self-righteous.

I find Sean Hannity's voice shrill and angry.

OK???
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:22 AM
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53. Okay, how about McCain's voice? Or Buchanan's?
Buchanan gets so high in register that I can't hear him but my dogs start laughing their furry asses off at him.

How about Rudy with his clapping choppers?

Or Scarborough with his "Dimocrats" .... and he's not trying to diss us, that just his stupid fucking accent.

McCain .... "Warshington"
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:58 AM
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4. It's an ACCENT
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:00 AM
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5. As in the way
you ACCENTED the word ACCENT? :rofl:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:54 AM
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29. yeah, lol.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:58 AM
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12. And the reason no one complains about mens' accents? n/t
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:56 AM
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30. There are male voices that bug the crap out of me: Bush is one.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:05 AM
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7. I was amused when he asked her about the bush doctrine and she sat back in her chair all smug
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 01:06 AM by notadmblnd
and said "in what regard, Charlie?" Like that was going to shut him down and change the subject. He almost told her what it was but stopped himself and asked for her interpretation of it, and she wouldn't/couldn't answer.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:51 AM
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45. That was the best part. She's all, "I OWN you, Charlie!" and then was totally shamed.
She's like a 12-year-old.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 01:24 AM
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9. Her voice reminds me of Sister Mary Elephant
the old Cheech and Chong skit.

"Good morning, class. Good morning, class. Class? Class!? SHUT UP!!!!! Thank you. As you know your regular teacher Sister Rosetta Stone is on a small vacation. However she does send her love, at least fingerpaintings, and desk club she`s making. I am your substitute teacher, Sister Mary Elephant. Class, attention. Attention, class! Class? SHUT UP!!!!! Thank you. Young man, now give me that knife. (Knife hits wall) Thank you. Now class, you all know who I am, so let`s find out who you are. Class? Class!? SHUT UP!!!!! "

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:01 AM
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14. Oh Gawd! That's it!
I was trawling my memory banks and just couldn't place it until now. :rofl:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:12 AM
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20. Found the clip on youtube
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:19 AM
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21. LOL!
Oh the memories! :rofl:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:01 AM
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15. Nasal? What about McPain himself? His voice is worse than hers,
but I never hear anyone say anything about it.
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RandiFan1290 Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:26 AM
Response to Reply #15
35. You've already been proven wrong
Why do you keep trying to stir up shit?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:11 AM
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50. I've been "proven wrong"? Wrong that McCain has a voice that's even more
irritating than hers?

How has this been proven wrong? Where's your proof?

(Is it possible for you to disagree with someone without lapsing into profanity? Just wondering.)
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 06:36 AM
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38. pnwmom, are you suggesting
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 06:37 AM by Dogtown
that DU is picking on Palin because we're "sexist"?


That's a pretty lame RW talking point. Please note, I am not calling you an intruder, but you certainly sound silly this morning.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:09 AM
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48. Nope. But some of those who picked on Hillary's voice were. n/t
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:35 AM
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54. In this thread
or sometime in ancient history?

That feud is OVER. You were the first one to bring up Hillary in this thread; it was supposed to be about Palin.


Please, just GET OVER yourself *and* the primaries. I didn't participate in that clam-bake because it was pathetic on both sides, and I'm very tired of people trying to revive it.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:01 AM
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16. Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, C
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie,

I wish I had a quarter for everytime she said his name in that too sugary sweet voice.

She makes me sick.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:09 AM
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18. She's "Unmodulated"
Greetings my Ozzie friend...

I worked with voices and she exhibits some real bad habits...mostly relegated to sportscasters. They can't adjust the volume or tone well...a very strident cadence...better used for yelling over loud crowds than in dealing with a one-on-one. That's why she "killed" at the convention, but was awful on this interview. A boss I had used to call this delivery "em-fasize-zing the wrong syl-lie-bal". She's also very scripted...got those talking points down solid...and when she's knocked off balance, her instinct is to run for the talking point...attempt to turn or dominate the conversation. I'm sure it works great on a kid on the local Anchorage station, but it doesn't play well on the national stage.

Cheers...
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:20 AM
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26. Heya KT
'owyagoin moite?

You're dead right about the talking points. Can't remember which it was but Gibson asked a question and off she went. Completely different topic, no relationship to the question. Given that I don't deal with any particular US accents on a regular basis, is that strange way of emphasising seemingly random words in a sentence usual? Alaskan?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:35 AM
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28. Someone Called It "Fargoese"
After the movie...a bit of Canadian with a touch of lumberjack. :rofl:

Honestly, I think a lot of it is just poor habits...pushed forward by years of rotary club and church meetings. She's not thinking in a fluid fashion...kinda like a computer hard drive that runs out of memory and has to constantly reset. You can just see that hard-drive wheel spinning and not sure where it's at or looking for.

Many of these people, especially the women, are taught to be assertive and "loud". Look at the ones you see spinning...they win through intimidation and modulation (especially if they don't have facts). I predict that in the debates that will be her downfall. She'll be combative and defensive while Senator Biden with all his experience will school her like a cuddly college professor.

Her voice is definitely not "natural"...but then this lady is way out of her league right now.

Cheers...and ahoy!!

:smoke:
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:19 AM
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22. Wow
That was horrid!! I wish Charlie would have followed up his question about Ukraine and Georgia being admitted to NATO with a simple..."Why?" I think we would have seen her head explode. "Does not compute...Does not compute...Does, does,..boom!! Then she tried to back away from her "God's plan" quote. Her dominionist friends probably did not like that too much.

She couldn't even hit the softballs they lobbed at her. I can't wait for the debate. I know they get some of the questions before hand, but she can't stand up to Joe's on the spot questions. The fembot will self destruct. Or...maybe she'll get mono until November 4th?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 03:28 AM
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27. I forgot about her NUCULER! n/t
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 09:51 AM
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46. She's Bene Gesserit.
She's using the Voice to gain power. How do you think the Padishah McCain was convinced to put her on the ticket?
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Narkos Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:07 PM
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56. More like Honored Matre
she's authoritarian to the nth degree. You impugn the reputation of he Bene Gesserit.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:27 PM
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57. Good point. I apologize.
My Mentat was supposed to check my post before I submitted it, but he was out last night drinking.

:hi:
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kurth_ Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:29 PM
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58. "In what respect, Charlie?"
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