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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:02 AM
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Would you say that someone was bigoted who would not vote for a candidate due to their.....
Religion?

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:03 AM
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1. Yes
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 08:03 AM by atreides1
Why?
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janetblond Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:04 AM
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2. Well, duhhhhhhhh? Lot of people wouldn't vote for John Kennedy
because he was CATHOLIC.
That was 40 years ago.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:05 AM
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3. I'm a bigot since I will not vote for white Christain fundy killers. We all have our issues.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:06 AM
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6. Then what about someone who won't vote for a candidate
Because the candidate does not have a religion?

Would you say that was bigoted also?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:05 AM
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4. I voted for Jimmy Carter, a born again Christian.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:11 AM
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10. And I'll vote for Obama, a Christian
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:11 AM
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11. So did I
I actually liked Carter a great deal and think he was one of our better presidents who was badly served by circumstance.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:05 AM
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5. I'm a little wishy washy on that--I'd say "depends on the religion."
Seriously, if it's a brand of (say) extremist Sunni Islam that would ban educating girls, or a crazy snake-handling sect of Southern Baptists, or suchlike, I could accept that as a deal-killer.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:09 AM
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7. Yeah that's a bigot.
Not gonna find too many people here who would say otherwise.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:10 AM
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8. Yes. Basic rule = NO dividing the People.
NO Exclusions!

This doesn't mean, of course, that we don't address problems, but that we do it with Respect for our unity.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:10 AM
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9. I would have to ask...
Why is religion even an issue?
A person can attend church every Sunday and appear to be faithful to whatever church he "belongs." But that does not mean that he takes any of those "religious values" into his daily life or the work he does.

I have seen people who attend church 2 times a week, serve as leaders in their congregation and drive down the street and honk their horn, flip someone off and yell out the window at other drivers.

So what does "religion" have to do with determining how someone will act as an elected official?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:12 AM
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12. I never said that it did, and don't think that it does.. n/t
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:13 AM
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13. That would depend on how the candidate said their religion
would influence their policy positions. I'm pro-choice, for example, but Kerry's being Catholic was a non-issue for me because he recognizes that his personal religious views should not intrude on other people's rights. If, on the other hand, a candidate leads voters to believe that his or her religious views would lead them to support abstinence only sex-ed or something like that, then voters would not be bigoted for factoring a candidate's religion into their voting choice.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:15 AM
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14. I meant based solely on their religion, with no other criteria. n/t
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:16 AM
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15. To me all religions are fairy tales.
As long as that person doesn't try to impose their religions morality on the rest of us, who cares what invisible man or woman they believe in.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:22 AM
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16. From what I understand....
From what I understand, bigotry can only be directed against those things over which we have no control-- color, orientation, etc.

Although I can't really perceive a moral difference between denigrating or minimizing a person because of a religion, and minimizing a person because of their color, there does appear to be some unwritten consensus that we can indeed do so with a free pass.

And while I realize that there may be a handful of individuals who would not vote for a person due to religion, I also realize that there may be a handful of individuals who would not vote for a person due to color.

To me, it's simply six of one and half a dozen of the other, as I really don't see bigotry confined to those aspects which are merely genetic or inherent in a person.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 08:33 AM
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17. Thoughtful reply.. And I agree with your conclusion.. n/t
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