McCain is toast.

[pinto]

[Mojambo]

1. Agreed. Bad night for him. n/t

[OhioChick]

2. Yep.

Feels damn good.

[Breeze54]

3. I agree! His goose is cooked!

Hillary did a great job!! :applause: :applause:

:D

[Prefer]

7. His nuts are cracked

[NNN0LHI]

4. I suspect we are going to be hearing a lot more about his POW time real soon

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

5. All this talk about his POW experience...

Makes me wish he would be like other old guys and talk about his hemmorhoids and his inability to pee.

[Prefer]

6. They're run the clip of him jumping out of the flaming plane

over and over again like the 911 loops!

[DCKit]

8. The one on the Forrestal?

Cause if he was, in fact, in the middle of that mess, the Navy has some serious 'splainin' to do.

[Ghost in the Machine]

10. He was *in* it, but I don't think it was his fault..

"It was just about 10:50 a.m. (local time). The launch that was scheduled for a short time later was never made. Lt. Cmdr. John S. McCain III, later a prisoner of war in Vietnam and still later U.S. Senator from Arizona, said later he heard a "whooshy" sound then a "low-order explosion" in front of him. Suddenly, two A-4s ahead of his plane were engulfed in flaming jet fuel — JP-5 — spewed from them. A bomb dropped to the deck and rolled about six feet and came to rest in a pool of burning fuel."
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/histories/cv59-forrestal/cv59-forrestal.html

[DCKit]

17. That's what HE said.

How many of the other uninjured pilots were evacuated with the wounded?

[Ghost in the Machine]

21. Hmmm... maybe he *was* responsible!

McCain Aviation Career

McCain crashed 5 jets, plus was responsible for the Forrestal fire. Something made the plane behind McCain fired a rocket, which hit McCain's external center fuel tank, and caused a fire. McCain panicked, and dropped two bombs into the fire.


Did He Start The USS Forrestal Fire?

Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane.


Incompetence Or A Stunt

'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. 'Wet starting' was a common practice among young 'hot-dog' pilots.


Zuni Rockets Were Volatile Design

In McCain's case, the 'wet-start' 'cooked off' and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk's fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it's 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.

http://judicial-inc.biz/82jjohn_mccain_and_the_uss_forresta.htm

[DCKit]

23. But I can't find any unimpeachable sources.

If it did happen that way, he should have skipped the Hanoi Hilton and gone straight into federal prison - do not pass go, do not collect heiress.

[radfringe]

25. when asked why he couldn't remember how many houses...

mccain said as a POW he didn't have a house

when asked about kitchen tables - mccain said as a POW he didn't have a table or a chair

if mccain becomes president, in 4 years we all will share in a piece of his POW experience. We won't have a house, a table, or even a chair.

More of the same.....only worse

the haves and have-mores will become the have-everythings

[TexasObserver]

9. My friends, did I tell you about the time I was a POW?

That scene on Leno was an embarrassment.

[npk]

12. Leno was making fun of him tonight

They showed a spoof where some old lady pretending to be his daughter was yelling "I love you daddy" from the stands last night. It was a play on Obama's daughter saying "I love you daddy" from the convention.

It was funny.

Also McCain is as lost during an interview as Bush is.

[bermudat]

11. I remember the 'Bush is toast' posts from 2004.

We can't let our guard down until the day after the November elections.

[lonestarnot]

13. Yeah, cheaters fucked us then too.

[orleans]

14. yes...

[Swamp Rat]

15. I'm not counting my cookies until ALL the votes are counted...

I believe they are going to try to steal yet another election.

[lonestarnot]

16. Cheat once get away with it, cheat twice get away with it, cheat this time and

it's on bitches!

[Swamp Rat]

18. Rage against the machine!

[lonestarnot]

20. That's it baby. If they are going to cheat they are going to

to put us out anyway, so when you have nothing left to loose well fuck it, it ain't going down with a cheat! Not this time! :P

[arthritisR_US]

19. sorry but I can't get so sanguine, the repukes dirty tricks haven't even begun, IMO. n/t

[DearAbby]

22. "My Frenz....

I dont like to dwell in the past, when I was a POW....BUT...One time at POW Camp...


By the way, I was thinking this morning sitting at #6 kitchen table, had I mentioned I was a POW for 5.5 yrs? Sometimes I forget, maybe I should get my staff to get back to you on that."

[Disturbed]

24. There is a long way to go. Dems must keep the fight going.

:kick: