ABB - Anyone but Biden

[Prefer]

to slick and greasy, to entrenched in the corrupt machine; too old. but I guess it should go to whoever is cleanest. Thank god John Edwards has finally immolated his fraudulent waste of everyone's time and attention.

[2KS2KHonda]

1. to to too to, et tu, tutu? "immolated"?

:eyes:

[jeanpalmer]

18. Biden's ok

I don't know that he'll help that much. I'd prefer Warner or Sherrod Brown, each of whom can probably deliver an important state. I'd have trouble voting for Bayh. He was a ringleader in that vote to blockade Iran, which is an act of war. I can't vote for someone with that kind of bad judgment.

[liberalmuse]

2. Biden is the decoy.

It's someone else.

[gateley]

7. How do you know that -- you seem so certain. nt

[...of J.Temperance]

8. Hopefully it's Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico

That's if Senator Bayh is definately out of the equation.

[Warpy]

3. Still, he did author the VAWA, probably to atone

for his swinish behavior to Anita Hill nearly a decade earlier.

Plus, he's a fighter.

If it's him, it could be a whole lot worse.

After all, Bayh is out.

[...of J.Temperance]

4. I don't want it to be Senator Biden either

He brings nothing to the ticket, and I just don't like him that much really.

However, I'll go with whoever Senator Obama chooses, and if it's Senator Biden, then I'll just have to accept that, not that I'll be happy, but that will be our ticket.

If it's not Senator Bayh, I'd like Senator Obama to choose Governor Bill Richardson.

An Obama/Richardson ticket would be pretty good.

[gateley]

10. I'm sorry to say (sincerely) that

the news agencies reported that Richardson, Bayh and Kaine have been told by Obama that they are not going to be his running mate.

And I'm sorry for those of you who were hoping.

That doesn't mean it's Biden, though -- It's only the media that has been singing that song. Nothing has come from the Obama camp so it really could be anyone.

[...of J.Temperance]

13. I thought Governor Richardson was still in the running and it was

Senator Bayh and Governor Kaine who'd been told they were out of the running.

I just read on another thread that Governor Richardson was still in.

I wish Senator Obama would just hurry the fuck up, because the suspense is killing....tons of people *sigh*

[gateley]

16. It was a DUer (or a couple) from NM who heard about Richardson on

a local news show.

But with everything -- who knows? We won't know until Obama has the VP on stage and we see who ISN'T there.

[...of J.Temperance]

17. I hope Governor Richardson is still in

Because he'd be a great running mate for Senator Obama.

[gateley]

21. Agree. We'll know soon. Good luck! nt

[...of J.Temperance]

25. Yeah I'm on the verge of just drowning my

Inability to wait too much longer, by just downing a bottle of Tequila.

Good luck too!

Memo to Senator Obama: Get the fuck on with it ALREADY!

[frogcycle]

39. I bet you've never met him

[Dr.Phool]

52. I have.

A bullshit artist of the first magnitude. But, in a good way.

I'd really like to do some serious drinking with him.

[cliffordu]

5. CLARK!!!! CLARK!!!!!

You are all going to have to admit how TOTALLY AWESOME I am when Clark is the guy.

[roguevalley]

22. you are totally awesome anyway, cliffordu :-D

[cliffordu]

24. Aw, shucks....

:hug:

[SpookyCat]

45. YES PLEASE!!!

I really don't think it will be Clark, but WOW! would I do the Happy Dance if it was!!!

Been rooting for him since 2004!

:D

In fact, if it IS Clark, I will post a video of my happy dance for all to see! :bounce:

[rockymountaindem]

6. Running in the unpopularity contest? n.t

[ClarkBayh 2008]

9. I pray you're right...

how does Biden help?
Not a war hero.
Not from a red state.
Not any change agent.

I just don't understand this party.
Very concerning.

Doesn't anyone remember that we lost each of the last two elections by ONE red state?
EVERYTHING must be done to pull in that last red state.
How in the world would another NE LIBERAL help.

Oy. He better kick some Romney ass in that debate.

[frogcycle]

40. well, for starters,

he is the hands-down most qualified to be president

but I guess that doesn't matter, you want to pick a knuckle-dragger to "pull in a red state"
Kennedy did that and we got LBJ and VN.

[laureloak]

11. To fall in love with someone you're not married to is human. n/t

[melody]

12. He's the strongest candidate by far of the VP mentions

He'll tie Romney up in his magic underwear.

[...of J.Temperance]

15. How is Senator Biden stronger than Governor Bill Richardson?

Senator Biden only has Senatorial experience.

Governor Richardson, has Executive experience as a Governor, Legislative experience as a Congressman and he was also United States Ambassador to the UN, so Richardson has Ambassador experience as well.

So HOW is Senator Biden STRONGER than Governor Richardson?


On Edit: Dammit spelling error

[melody]

19. Obama and Richardson are both minorities

Obama needs someone with strong international street cred. Unfortunately, he also needs to be white and male.

Richardson is an excellent fellow however.

[...of J.Temperance]

23. It's sad that there are retarded bigoted fuckheads out there who

Wouldn't accept an Obama/Richardson ticket because both are minorities.

I don't think Senator Biden has ANY street cred, international or not....I'm going to pray that it's not Senator Biden.

[melody]

26. Of course it's sad but it's reality

And I think Biden has excellent international credentials. He wouldn't have been my first choice overall but of
the ones mentioned now, he's the strongest imo.

[...of J.Temperance]

27. I'm worried

About how....well, there had better NOT be ANY skeletons, including girlfriends past OR present with Senator Biden.

I don't know, when I see him, I just get the impression that he might be hiding something.

I thought Senator John Edwards was whiter than white and he was my candidate in 2004 and early on in this 2008 race, and then look what happened.

I TRUST Governor Bill Richardson, I can't say that I TRUST Senator Biden, because there's something about him to me that doesn't say he's totally clean.

[melody]

29. Edwards was my candidate initially, too and he disappointed me

Biden has a lot of stuff in his background but he has also been tried in the public arena for many, many years. If there was an actual problem, it would have come to light a long time ago. Edwards' problem was always there, he just hadn't been an idiot in a long time. Sadly, that changed.

[...of J.Temperance]

33. Well

I just hope that Senator Biden doesn't have any skeletons that have lay dormant, because the GOP and their helpers in the media will be like dogs on a hunt....then again they're going to do that with whoever the Veep nominee is.

It's getting to the point now, that even if we ran Jesus Christ himself, those little fuckers would find SOMETHING to slur him with.

[melody]

44. Of course but this ticket is a dream next to McCain/Romney

That is the worst choice McCrab could have made ... I'm so pleased he made it. lol

[Prefer]

35. Richardson is effectively perceived as white

doesn't matter if he is latino, you look at him and see a white person, not a latino. SO that a double dip - Latinos will know he's latino, but whites who need to will feel the comfort of a white guy.

I absolutely love Richardson - he is also portly which a lot of people can relate to. He is not shiny and slick like Biden he comes off as real human and regular like you and me.

[melody]

43. I'm afraid not

Ethnology is my bailiwick. Racial perceptions are made by 1) skin color, 2) speech patterns and 3) features.

Richardson is perceived as Latino. Here's where people start grouping up and attacking the messenger. I like
Richardson. I'd love to see a two-minority ticket or a female VP but the important thing is the letter after
their name in the age in which we live.

[frogcycle]

42. Richardson ???

bwahhhhahahahahaha!

[Davis_X_Machina]

14. It doesn't matter...

...and hasn't mattered since 1960, the last time a VP pick made an actual difference.

It wasn't the Eagleton fiasco that cooked McGovern's goose. Quayle didn't cost Bush père the election.

Biden would be a perfectly serviceable stand-in, if the unthinkable happens. Besides that, you are looking to tie up a few more news cycles and have someone to campaign in small markets and safe states.

There are fifty people who'd do the job, who'd make a fine VP.

Relax.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

31. You're forgetting Spiro Agnew,

and the mess he left us, with us ending up with Gerald Ford as our President.

Doesn't get sloppier than that.

I think it's Richardson, though..................

[tammywammy]

20. I will vote Obama

No matter who he selects as his VP.

[Orangepeel]

28. blah. Anyone? How about Sam Nunn?

Nobody is perfect, but Biden is an okay choice. The Obama campaign got this far. I'll trust them over you.

[jeanpalmer]

30. I'm going with HillaryClinton

There are things I don't like about her. But she's a proven campaigner, has been vetted, can connect with women, would solve whatever exists of the divide bewteen Obama and Clintons. She's the obvious choice.

Also, looking at the states as broken down by Rasmussen, I think she will firm up some of the leaners. Obama can win without Florida and Ohio if he gets the critical leaners. Hillary might be able to help there.

[Lex]

32. She wasn't vetted at all by Obama.

nt

[jeanpalmer]

34. She's been vetted by the public

Numerous times.

[Lex]

36. The public's not picking VP.

Obama is.

[jeanpalmer]

37. They will in the end

Last I checked VP was popularly elected.

[Lex]

38. Try voting for VP then.

Good luck.

[jeanpalmer]

41. Piece of cake

I always take into account who the VP is. If I don't like him/her, I don't vote for the ticket. That's how I do it.

[wisteria]

46. I don't like Biden's for a few reasons, but I hope he rises to the occassion and proves me wrong. n/

[tyedyeto]

47. ABB=Anybody But Bush

Should NOT be used against any Democrat.

[Oilwellian]

48. Hmmmm

Interesting signature you have there. Perhaps when you learn the difference between "to" and "too" I may give more thought to your opinions.

[Bluebear]

49. "to slick and greasy" - bwahahahaha

[Ex Lurker]

50. he doesn't make me any more likely to vote for Obama

then again, he doesn't make me any less likely either.

[seabeyond]

51. i like biden. he has a mouth which will help us. hope he will help obama more than edwards

helped kerry