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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:08 PM
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Thank You Tweety
I have definitely had my misgivings with Chris Matthews but todays program hit it out of the park for me. In the last five minutes of todays show he brought up the issue of that pseudo "christian" Warren's question of when life begins and how inappropriate a question it was. Both his guests agreed with him and his diatribe and both were surprised that no one had brought this issue up before now. A little bit of sanity is peeking through the corporate media whores!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:09 PM
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1. Glad to hear about this
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:17 PM
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5. he also stepped on some punk saying that it was the country's
fault we lost Viet Nam. Fucker. Wasn't even born then and he thinks he knows about Nam. Fuck him.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:18 PM
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7. The correct answer is, "It was _never_ winnable. Ever."
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:28 PM
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12. just like this one because the f*cking morons never planned for it...shit, they
had no right nor should have ever gone there to begin with!
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:26 PM
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11. I felt exactly the same as you! nt
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:10 PM
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2. yes I saw that
and I agree with what Tweety said there (and his guests as well)

He essentially said there should not be a "religious test" for US President and that's what that was.

Then he said "Thomas Jefferson would NOT have gone to there and sat at that table!"

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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:12 PM
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3. I was jumping up and cheering that one...gawd, it's about time! n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:15 PM
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4. I saw it
Good for Tweety
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:17 PM
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6. And what about what he said to that "Let's stay in Iraq" echobot?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he ask the moran that we still don't have to be in Vietnam!?

Of course the ass was replying vis satellite, so he talked over Tweety and "didn't hear".


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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:24 PM
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8. that segment started to whet my whistle....abosolutely wonderful and dead on! n/t
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:25 PM
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9. Thank You, MSNBC!
"A little bit of sanity is peeking through the corporate media whores!"

Too bad my cable company moved them to...Peanut Heaven.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:29 PM
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13. bastards! nt
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:46 PM
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18. Yeah, they are!
:hug: They moved them from channel 31 to channel 183...

Then, to throw salt on the wound--They actually replaced MSNBC, with the Golf channel... :spank:
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:08 PM
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20. oh for christ sake...never ceases to amaze me! nt
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:25 PM
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10. On Monday, you'll all be back to bitching about Matthews.
I saw the show. I watch it pretty much every night. He always acts like this ......
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:30 PM
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14. oh I know, but it`s so nice to feel this way for a short while :-) nt
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:30 PM
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15. i agree with matthews....
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:37 PM
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16. He's a sexist jerk. But that's okay on DU. nt
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:38 PM
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17. It is? Please elaborate.
:shrug:

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 07:57 PM
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19. People still watch him after all the name calling and ogling. nt
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:18 PM
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22. ya, but I don`t think Obama will ever wear a cod piece. nt
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 08:18 PM by arthritisR_US
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:12 PM
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21. life begins when it becomes a Tax Deduction n/t
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:27 PM
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23. Watching The Weathervanes
Yes, Tweety did one of his rare good performances tonight. He all but laughed at Gramps Housing "mess" and declared the "Obama Is Elite" meme dead, then went after the Pro-Iraq toadie for sticking to a talking point that has no meaning or merit anymore and this kid, who wasn't even a glimmer, in 1972 attempted to project that WE gave up on Vietnam. This shitstain was put in his place. Then came the "revelation" about the Warren circus and how the pandering to the religious right is a big reach across the seperation of church & state.

What was more telling is a mood shift in some in the corporate media over the past week or two...Gramps is burning bridges and losing friends. He's lost Joe Klein and Jon Alter...is on the verge of losing Tweety and the long string of gaffes and sliming is starting to come home to roost. Not just from this year, but from Rovian tactics of the past. The stench is getting so bad from gramps that only those who enjoy the smell are sticking around.

Tweety is a weathervane...he blows the way "conventional wisdom" does. This has nothing to do with reality but with the telephone games he and his beltway buddies like to play...and if Gramps loses them, he's lost his base. The teflon is starting to peel.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:39 PM
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24. gawd I can be thick, but who is gramps nt
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:49 PM
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25. The 71 Year Old Standard Barrer
I use that term as both ridicule and affection for the guy. He defiitely reminds me of a lot of Grampas I've known over the years...fiesty, deadset in their way and full of stories. It's an endearing quality on many...and I will probably be a gramps myself very soon...but it's not qualities this country needs after 8 years of totalitarian rule.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:28 PM
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26. "sanity" ------------- *NEVER* -----------equates with Tweety!1 You a newcomer around here?!1 n/t
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:30 PM
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27. ok, it shows eh.....nt
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:48 PM
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28. Here's some homework for you:

Chris Matthews


From Demopedia

Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first 3 or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".
Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate.
Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.

Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the...FIFTY...people who watch this show (Hardball, not SNL)..." In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself--manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.

"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, walking arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime after 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published.

How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" --an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby"). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with you Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect.

How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it Name/Surname?" She would not confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident.

"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.
But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY".
But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/... "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."
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