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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:48 AM
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Obama Could Greatly Benefit from Biden's Verbosity...
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 12:52 AM by Indi Guy
Biden came up with (re:Giuliani), “There’s only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There’s nothing else! There’s nothing else! And I mean this sincerely. He’s genuinely not qualified to be president.”

Isn't this guy VP material? Notwithstanding his experience in foreign relations -- can you imagine what a bulldog he could be for Obama?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:52 AM
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1. "yes" :-)
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:20 AM
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8. Your sig pic & line...
Well done..
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:23 AM
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9. Grab 'em before they're everywhere:
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PoliticalOne65 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:34 AM
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41. "We are the change that we have been waiting for."
Here is the change. 35 plus years as a Washington insider. I was almost sucked in, but it is more of the same. Oh well I guess the odor in Chicago is about the same as the smell in Washington DC. We almost were all taken in. Are there any alternatives?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:53 AM
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2. He prefaced that by saying "Rudy Giuliani, probably the most
unqualified person to run for President of the United States since George W. Bush..."

He kills!

Remember when he called Bush brain dead?

And his criticisms and snarks are valid - not gratuitous like THEIRS are.

Biden rocks.


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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:09 AM
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5. Thank you for the added impact.
I've been following Biden for quite a while.

Originally (and I told my friends) I wanted a Biden/Obama ticket. Now I don't care who get's top billing -- since Cheney has elevated the VP position to something far greater than a warm bucket of "s*it."
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:24 AM
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10. and goodness knows there's enough cleanup work for 10 presidents. nt
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:33 AM
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12. Yeah ..If you want a friend in Washington -- Don't elect a dog
...elect a hazardous waste supervisor.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:51 AM
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17. And he has the perfect facial expressions
to match the words. He has a gift, a gift that we can really use right now.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:10 AM
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18. Biden comes across naturally..
He doesn't use rhetoric as a cruth.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:22 AM
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21. And he always has an answer to any question
about anything. Not lame "talking points" answers. He has a wealth of knowledge that he pulls up at a moments notice. Facts, figures, statistics - like a computer. Its amazing.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:59 AM
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3. Joe is GREAT at the short, sweet daggers, and that's just what
we need now! I'm hoping very much that I can cheer tomorrow when I hear the announcement that it's Obama/Biden!!!!!!!!!
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:16 AM
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7. Please let it be so...
As long as Biden is loose lipped about McCain (instead of lesser matters) Obama win's with him as VP.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:02 AM
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4. Biden's "experience in foreign policy" resulted in a vote for the IWR.
That kind of "experience" we, and Obama, can do without.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:12 AM
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6. Any particular vote can get a senator in trouble...
...that's why very few senators ever get elected pres.

We're going to have a senator elected pres this time, so we need to look at trends in voting...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:30 AM
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11. Trouble is Biden doesn't know when to shut up
and would end up sticking his foot right in it, as often as he came up with a clever quip.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:39 AM
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13. You may be right...
But that's a risk Obama might take to get McCain off of his innane high horse of foreign policy experience.

Let Biden be Biden against McCain?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:45 AM
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16. That's an argument for Wes Clark
more than Joe Biden.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:42 AM
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14. After all man...
Ya' gotta win first. Deal with the repercussions of choices later...
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 01:44 AM
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15. I do have a bit of a problem with there's being substituted for the correct
form "there are" when it comes to speaking of more than one thing...but it every where these day.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:13 AM
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19. The grammar police don't control elections...
...look at Bush?!
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:20 AM
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25. You've got that right!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:22 AM
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20. What would be correct? nt
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:27 AM
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22. I doubt he knows...
Biden is a choice many people could get behind (for stated reasons).

I'm not a Biden fanatic. I just like the way he speaks his mind.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 02:41 AM
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23. That's what drew me to him initially in the debates.
I went in believing all the stuff that people love to dis him with -- foot in mouth, plagiarizing, etc., and essentially wrote him off right off the bat. But debate by debate, I became more and more impressed. And he and Gravel were the only two who really let it rip.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:26 AM
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26. If I'm not mistaken (and I could be...lol)...
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 08:34 AM by NoSheep
Here is Biden's statement (ironically, about Giuliani's habit of mentioning 911 in a simple sentence every time he opens his mouth - which is the only reason I stepped into this and mentioned grammer...because Biden is criticizing someone else's manner of speaking))

“There’s only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There’s nothing else! There’s nothing else! And I mean this sincerely. He’s genuinely not qualified to be president.”

The first use of "there's" is gramatically incorrect. It should be there are because "three things" is plural. The other 2 uses of "there's" are correct, gramatically.

For what it's worth.

I had to edit this for 3 errors!!!
;)
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:46 AM
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30. I'm no fan of Biden (Clarence Thomas and IWR), but
I think you are engaging in pedantics, insofar as you ignore the distinction between written and spoken English.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 11:03 AM
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34. Oh. I thought I was engaging in a light hearted discussion.
Clearly no.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 04:39 AM
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46. Sorry, no offense intended. I
tried to resist going into further detail, precisely because I recognized the lightheartedness.

I thought my use of "pedantic" would give you an opening to twit me for being myself a "pedant," the Malvolio, as it were, of DU! :) I guess I must continue to work on my tone.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:17 AM
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39. You got the point didn't you?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:01 AM
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24. Biden has a tongue as sharp as his mind, and our "gentleman prez" will need that kind of support...
... against the character assassins who are already hard at work. I'll be glad if it's Biden.

If Hillary speaks out like Biden does or if she loses her temper, she'll just be called gender-based slurs. When Biden does it, even if his enemies call him a sonuvabitch, that's virtually a compliment on his toughness.

I'm just sayin'.

Hekate


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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:35 AM
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27. "Change you can Believe in"
What an empty slogan don't you think?
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:35 AM
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28. I agree. I just wish that Joe didn't suffer with foot-in-mouth disease at times
I like Biden, I was very impressed with him in the debates. He would wipe the floor with any VP the repugs put up there in the debates. But every once in a while, he comes out with something that just leaves you shaking your head.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 08:36 AM
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29. I like Biden
Always have and guess I always will
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:13 AM
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31. I agree, even with his penchant to stick his foot in his mouth occasionally
One thing Joe Biden feels like is R E A L, one of us, a stand up guy.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:27 AM
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32. I think he'd suffer from Bidens Zionism
http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Shalom-interview-Senator-Biden.html

The original link was removed.

I have a problem with Zionism in our government.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:29 AM
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33. He's no pansy ass who will sit by when the vote gets fucked with, he will fight!
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 05:28 PM
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35. Most importantly -- He would go after McCain's hypocrisy. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:09 PM
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36. Yes he would!
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 01:56 AM
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37. I can't wait...
;)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:14 AM
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38. Should be an interesting ride.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:22 AM
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40. Yeah, Once Both Campaigns Get Through Digging up What Opponent's VP's Said...
Edited on Sat Aug-23-08 02:23 AM by Indi Guy
...during the primaries -- we're off to the races.

Fortunately for Obama/Biden -- They'll have more time to recover from the inevitable onslaught.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:40 AM
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42. How they voted is what concerns me more.
Having a tough time swallowing some of it myself.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:16 AM
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44. I'm with ya', however...
...one way or another -- a senator is going to become president. Very few senators have ever been elected president, specifically because outsiders have always been able to cite congressional voting records.

Often senators vote in the interest of their states, regardless of the larger picture.
The game now is voting trends. I think we should reward our presidential candidates along the lines of their voting trends, rather than focus on a questionable vote here or there.
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chiefofclarinet Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 02:56 AM
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43. It's a great line, isn't it?
One of the reasons I supported Biden in the Iowa caucus was his wit, in addition to his experience and knowledge. That is definite a great line; I like it so much, I use it in my signature.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 03:28 AM
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45. I like Biden's unfiltered style...
...roughly articulate.

Yeah I know; but it works in his favor.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 08:11 AM
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47. husband was on that last night first thing. why he likes biden, besides experience, his mouth
says he will easily take on the right, loudly.
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