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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:33 PM
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What politician/opinion leader do you most trust?
Not who you would vote for. Not who you think ought to be running for president. Not who you voted for last time.

Who do you think is the most honest broker of policy and information?

Who do you simply trust when s/he speaks?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:34 PM
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1. Henry Waxman. nt
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:34 PM
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35. He's long been one of the pols I respected most. nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:35 PM
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2. Jimmy Carter
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:55 PM
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23. Ditto.
Probably the only completely honest president we've ever had.

If Jimmy Carter denies or confirms something, I believe him.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:05 PM
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27. Just one example is his 1977 address to the nation about energy...
Watched it recently on YouTube and every word holds up today. It's excrutiating!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:38 PM
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36. And there was this video...
It's a joke, but I always liked it.
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/ask-president-carter/2367/

I agree about Carter. He was a different type of president. I keep hoping for another like him, but so far I've been disappointed. I saw some of him in Gore, but alas, we were robbed. May Bush rot in Hell.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:47 PM
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37. It'd be nice to have a president we'd make fun of for being too smart again.
Compare that with today's White House embarrassment.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 04:59 AM
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48. LOL - too funny! And then we have McLame, who "takes pride in being ignorant." :)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:35 PM
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3. Joan Didion and Gore Vidal.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:37 PM
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4. Nobody. There are three people who can make me reconsider anything I believe.
But even then I may not agree with them. Carter, Gore, Jesse Jackson.

But I don't trust anyone implicitly. I just listen to what they (anyone) says and analyze it on its own merits, to decide whether it makes sense, is believable, and whether I agree with it. I think any time I hear anyone say anything, my first thought isn't "Is this true?" but "Why are they saying this?"
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:40 PM
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10. I like your choices very much.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:43 PM
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14. Thanks. I wish there were more...
But they'll do.

I only voted for two of them, though. I was too young to vote for Carter. :(
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:46 PM
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19. I had the pleasure of working for Jessie.
Met Carter in an elevator. Never met Gore - would like to.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:02 PM
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25. Carter was the one who got me interested in politics, even though I couldn't vote for him.
Jackson got me interested again. I had voted and paid attention, but until him, I hadn't seen anyone I thought of as more than a manager to run things.

I always liked Gore, but didn't really fall for him until the convention in 2000. Until then, I had believed, or at least worried about, a lot of the accusations made at him, and while I knew most weren't true, I still figured there was probably some weakness that all these rumors proved. After I watched him at the convention, and watched Bill Clinton talk about him, I knew I'd been had. I knew from hearing him, and watching his eyes, that he was one of the real people, like Carter or Jackson, who was doing it because of what he believed, and that all the stuff about him was wrong. I wasn't sure that every single story was a lie, but I knew that the media had created an image that was completely fabricated about him.

I grew up around sociopaths and liars, and am good at spotting them, usually. I see a lot of politicians that I like say things I know are lies or spin. A lot of people here fall for it, and I don't care, but I don't believe them. It always bothers me more when I see someone I know is telling the truth get called a liar. That's probably half the fights I get in around here. :)

So you met two of my hereos? :yourock:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:19 PM
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30. Yes
On the funny side - my first thought was Carter is as short as I am. I was working in a building that had a radio station. Carter and his "protection" got on the elevator with me. Guess I look safe.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:29 PM
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32. That's funny. I saw Gore once, in 92, with Clinton.
He was at UTexas for a speech. I had seen the speech enough, so I figured out where the bus would arrive, and waited there for him. There were about twenty people, so it was a small crowd. The bus pulled up, and Clinton got off, surrounded by Secret Service guys, and marched on through to the door. I waited for Gore, and finally realized, a moment before Clinton ducked through the door, that the SS guy behind him in the Navy suit was Gore! They weren't kidding when they talked about his posture and demeanor being stiff!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:37 PM
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5. Myself
Other than that, everyone else is a mystery ;)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:38 PM
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6. Pfshh. I don't even agree myself all the time.
And many here would say I shouldn't.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:40 PM
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9. I have to disagree with you on this one. n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:46 PM
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18. Reality is a construct that can never be ultimately discerned.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:03 PM
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26. I think that means that Taverner
agrees I shouldn't believe myself. :rofl:
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:31 PM
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34. Many good people
who can be trusted to be good even when their judgment is bad or their actions compromised. Several of these trustworthy people have cost lives, left people in suffering or otherwise lost to the dark side without "getting it".

You would instinctively trust a great many of our Dem leaders, and some DUers swear by the few seemingly trustworthy Repubs which convinces me to doubt the judgment of those people on DU, McCain being one of those guys in 2000.

Everyone, even the Dalai Lama falls short in the wisdom category and the practical encounter with the crap. Few people, even believers, would actually trust God to solve the problems and problem makers and the masses' problems we have now. Yet we all have to trust the good in this imperfect world, and distrust the inherently deceitful hype of "perfection". The cause of distrust is always the same, the incapacity of putting down the false and uniting the best of the most.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:38 PM
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7. None
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:40 PM
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8. I'll go with Gore Vidal. Can't think of another person and
certainly not a politician. They all lie most of the time.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:40 PM
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11. DENNIS KUCINICH! n/t
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:13 PM
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28. Kucinich! nuff said.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:46 PM
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42. I'll third that Kucinich and add Gore Vidal to my list n/t
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:41 PM
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12. Kucinich, Conyers, Obama, Moore, Carter
Edited on Thu Aug-21-08 09:41 PM by harun
(on edit added Carter)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:20 AM
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49. A candidate running for office?
Obama? FISA?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:41 PM
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13. Dennis.
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:44 PM
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15. Will D. Campbell
Read up on him. too much to list. I'd listen to him anytime.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:45 PM
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16. It once was John Edwards so take my opinion with a grain of salt....
Who do I trust? Walter Mondale. Wes Clark. Tom Harkin. Jim Webb.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:45 PM
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17. kucinich
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:47 PM
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20. Barbara Lee. n/t
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:48 PM
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21. Russ Feingold
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 09:52 PM
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22. Yeah, too honest to run for president! I decided to give Waxman some deserving dap. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:01 PM
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24. I can't think of anyone
hmmm...

let me think on that some more




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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:13 PM
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29. Bill Moyers & Gore Vidal, sorta. Kurt Vonnegut & Bill Hicks, but they're dead. NO politician, ever.
I trust Chris Floyd, Joe Bageant, Dennis Perrin, Jon Schwarz, and IOZ.

I think that's about it.

sw
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:19 PM
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31. Carter, Gore, Conyers, Kucinich, Kerry, Obama
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ShenandoahAspen Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:30 PM
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33. Has to be Keith Olbermann.
I can't think of any politicians I can trust, though. Politics is just a nasty business and not very many trustworthy people in it.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:55 PM
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38. Kucinich...
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:57 PM
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39. Al Gore. nt
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:05 PM
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40. Jonathan Turley n/t
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:43 PM
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41. Paul Wellstone.
Sadly, he can no longer speak for us.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:48 PM
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43. I miss Paul
:-(
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:58 PM
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44. The Rev. Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State...
Edited on Thu Aug-21-08 11:59 PM by adsosletter
Church/State separation is of fundamental importance to the health of our republic...I trust this man's perspectives on where we stand on issues affecting that vital principle.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:24 AM
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45. I don't trust anyone
there are some I agree with more than others, but trust? I've lived long enough and seen too much. Trustworthy people don't go into politics nowadays, if indeed they ever did.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:26 AM
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46. Al Gore, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan.
Interesting how few chose Obama. :wow:

Not.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 12:33 AM
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47. Kucinich is an honest broker of reality n't...
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:22 AM
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50. Bill Moyers!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 06:49 AM
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51. No one comes to mind.
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