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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:18 PM
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Russian bomber jets swoop over US Aircraft
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=CWP-d8DWM4c&feature=related

The Pentagon has confirmed that two Russian TU-95 Bear bombers flew over a U.S aircraft carrier on the weekend.

U.S defence officials say the incident occurred in the western Pacific.

Four F-18 fighters jets were launched to intercept the Russian bombers, but not before they had flown across the deck of the USS Nimitz at an altitude of 2,000 feet.

The F-18s escorted the bombers out of the area.
more...
Putin has been making a statement for months
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:21 PM
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1. Good
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 04:21 PM by malaise
the last thing we need is the invasion of Iran.

They're all evil but it's always better having two evil groups than one. Both should be afraid of doing stupid things without contemplating the consequences.

Sp.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:21 PM
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2. I trust you noticed that this video was posted back in February.
There were several threads about this incident.

Much ado about nothing.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:23 PM
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4. February?
Then why is it here. I didn't watch the video
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:27 PM
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7. Click on the YouTube link in the OP and look at the "Date Added"
It was posted on You Tube back in February after this incident. There were several threads about it on DU back then. It was a complete non-issue. The Russians have been doing this sort of thing for years.

So have we.

It is not ominous.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:45 PM
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10. Do you have a source that tells us that Russia was swooping
our aircraft carriers before this...Before this Russia was our buddy ...the Cold War was over...and they even worked with NATO


but things are different
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:00 PM
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12. here's one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95 from around February...when we were buddies...

sP
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:08 PM
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15. Thats the same incident that the OP is referring to
Russians started these patrols earlier this year. I dont believe this is something that has been going on for all the past 10+ years.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:16 PM
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16. thank you wise guy you have made my point
Thanks they didn't get it
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:43 PM
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30. look lower in the article...
there is a whole list of these sorts of encounters...

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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:44 PM
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has been going on for a while
look lower in the article...there is a whole list

sP
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:07 PM
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14. You don't think Cold War style overflights ever stopped do you?
Surely you don't. Any of our pre and post Cold War vets (myself included) can assure you they didn't. They still do it, we still do it, it's a game.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:17 PM
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17. so your saying the captain of the Nimitz allows these swoops
because he feels they are harmless

they thought that way during Pearl Harbor
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:25 PM
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23. I'm not saying anyone allows them per se, but they do happen
We escort TU-95s away from the FL coast quite regularly. TY and EG F-15s have been doing it for years.

By the way, the TU-95 is not a jet. It's a prop bomber.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:44 PM
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31. How long have you been escorting TU95's off Florida coast????
how close do they get to US ...real close

thanks for letting me know its happening in Florida too

as tensions with Russia get worse those flybys are going to get dangerous

as I said they are testing our homeland defenses

Do we do the same to Russia????
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:05 AM
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36. Uh, for the last 60 years or so
We absolutely do the same thing to them. Seriously, do you not remember the Cold War? You act like this is new to you and at first I thought you were just joking around.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:02 PM
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24. Does that mean I can..
come out from under my desk?
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:15 PM
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26. Yes.
Just watch for low-flying aircraft.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:31 PM
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8. Because to let people know that Russia has been
testing our defenses and our country is not being defended on our home soil

where is Homeland Security ???? its a joke people
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:19 PM
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19. Homeland Security?
I thought the captain aboard the Nimitz worked for the Department of Defense...but, I could be wrong. :shrug:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:21 PM
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21. The Russians have flown in to Alaska and Washington
they have flown into Denmark and over Nimitz and Kitty Hawk

Homeland Security and Defense where are they ????
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:24 PM
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22. OMG!!!!1!111! The Russians are coming!!!1!!!
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isentropic Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:22 PM
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27. In just a few days!!!!!!!!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:21 PM
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3. I don't like it, not one bit.
Everybody's strutting around and talking tough. One idiotic move could ignite the world.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:26 PM
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6. Yeah that game contributed to the start of WWI
The question is with all the special radar Aegis ships how in the Sam did THAT happen? Looks to me like the Navy doesn't have its head in the Great Game.

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:19 PM
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18. It shows that our defenses are WEAK and near HOME
what the hell are we doing in Iraq

our borders are being tested
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:23 PM
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5. Whoa!! 2,000 feet?
They came in that low and the 18s weren't launched until after the fact?

What the hell was going on?

That is so far off the charts, so counter to evreything, that I can't even imagine what was going on in CIC.

Something is horribly wrong with this.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:32 PM
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9. Wake up America
Putin means business
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:47 PM
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11. Did they give them the finger...inverted
:shrug:

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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:04 PM
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13. TU 95...not a jet... n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:20 PM
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20. Yes these carry NUKES as their payload in War time
these are slow and Big
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:03 PM
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25. it's a turboprop, which makes it a jet*
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:45 PM
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28. It's a Turboprop which makes it a propeller driven aircraft...
NOT a jet.

Jet powered bomber;


Propeller driven bomber;
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:07 PM
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29. A turboprop is a JET.
http://inventors.about.com/od/jstartinventions/ss/jet_engine_2.htm

A turboprop engine is a jet engine attached to a propellor.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 09:22 PM
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33. ewwww....Putin is going to make Condi purse her lips till they are blue
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 07:58 AM
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34. As I said back in February, they were probably nearer Russia than the US
since this was the western Pacific. So, what's the problem?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:30 AM
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35. First time that's happened in over 40 years.
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