What is the actual British National anthem?

[Hardrada]

And is it as bloody as the French one?

(Oddly enough, Deutschland ueber Alles and the Star Spangled Banner seem rather unbloody).

[itsmesgd]

1. is it "London Calling" by The Clash?

I think that it should be even if it is not so now

[htuttle]

6. It's "God save the queen"

God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems

Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid

When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, you're future

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you

Oh, is that the wrong version?

:evilgrin:

[Hardrada]

11. That's great! I never knew that song. I'm going to buy their

CD. Really. I kind of wondered about them for awhile with Sid Vicious wearing that swastika around! But I guess that was just punk or something.

[muriel_volestrangler]

40. That was number 1 in the charts in the week of the Queen's Silver Jubilee in 1977

(ie 25 years on the throne - we had a public holiday). The BBC banned the record from broadcast.

[zanne]

2. Isn't it "God Save the Queen"? nt

[itsmesgd]

3. the Sex Pistols, great tune

"God save the Queen and her fascist regime"

[Captain Hilts]

17. I like the song, but QEII is politically pretty darned liberal. nt

[Geoff R. Casavant]

4. I believe it's "God Save the Queen."

I don't know if it's particularly bloody or not, but I would tend to think it isn't.

And I recall verse 3 of The Star-Spangled Banner is pretty bloody.

[malaise]

21. So how does she scatter her enemies without

blood. :D
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/anthem.html#full

[muriel_volestrangler]

41. Note also the never-now-sung 6th verse - crushing the Scots

Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!

A reference to the aftermath of the 1715 rebellion, when the Highlands of Scotland were treated as an occupied country, with garrisons and roads built so troops could put down rebels quickly.

[Hardrada]

43. I've never seen that verse! Thanks.

This has been an informative post.

[bobbolink]

5. Star Spangled Banner = "unbloody"????

All about bombs, but that's unbloody???

I guess if it's done at a distance, one's hands stay clean regardless of the deaths it causes, so it's "unbloody".

:eyes:

[Captain Hilts]

16. The OTHER stanzas of the Star SpBanner ARE very violent. nt

[bobbolink]

19. Yup, makes my ears bleed. ^_^ n/t

[ieoeja]

23. But it's about withstanding the enemy's bombs.

The US is being bombed, not doing the bombing.

[yurbud]

33. see these verses

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=378191&mesg_id=378715

[saltpoint]

7. I vote for "Honky Tonk Women" by the Stones.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. "I'm a Lumberjack?"

Should be, anyway.

[atreides1]

15. That's Canada

Not many lumberjacks in the UK.;)

[kskiska]

9. Not very bloody

God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen:
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us:
God save the Queen.

O Lord, our God, arise,
Scatter thine enemies,
And make them fall:
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On thee our hopes we fix:
God save us all.

Thy choicest gifts in store,
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign:
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen.

[Hardrada]

13. Thank you! Someone told me it was Rule Brittania

but that just misled me. I like the part about politics and knavish tricks. Describes the repugs!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

36. Same tune as "America"

Land of the pilgrims' pride, from every mountain side, let freedom ring.

That one, not "America the Beautiful".

[reprobate]

46. America the Beautiful SHOULD BE our national anthem.

Either that or This Land is Your Land, This Land Is MY Land.

Frankkly I tired of everything about our nation being about armaments and war.

America used to be about more than that.

[piedmont]

52. I prefer This Land is Your Land

The Star Spangled Banner is fine with me, though.

[donheld]

54. * prefers "This Land Is My Land"

This land is my land it is not your land
Dick's gotta shot-gun and you ain't got one
This land was made for only me.

[Hardrada]

53. My Country, "Tis Of Thee

I love that one and never hear it sung anymore. I think since Martin Luther King used in the DC 1963 speech the reactionaries have been trying to dump that one! Or am I being paranoid?

[misternormal]

10. SGT Peppers lonely heart's club band... n/t

[knitter4democracy]

22. One of my favorite songs . . .

It was our high school pep band theme song. :D

[kenny blankenship]

12. this is about as bloodyminded as it gets:

O Lord, our God, arise,
Scatter thine enemies,
And make them fall:
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On thee our hopes we fix:
God save us all.

"frustrate their knavish tricks"--totally BRUTALLL !!!

[Hardrada]

14. LOL!

[hughee99]

18. It's not "Henry the 8th" by Herman's Hermits? n/t

[flakey_foont]

25. only the second verse

[Hardrada]

27. That's one of my favorites.

Like the Star Spangled Banner I think that used to be an old tavern or music hall tune.

[Bluebear]

20. "Deutschland ueber Alles" is not the anthem of Germany

The anthem is called "Einigkeit und Recht un Freiheit", 'Unity, law and freedom", which was the fourth verse of the tune you cite. Only this verse has been the official anthem since 1952.

[yurbud]

26. "Deutschland ueber Alles" is the doorbell tone at the Crawford Ranch.

[Hardrada]

29. LOL!

[Hardrada]

31. You're right. But wasn't there an East German one too?

I used to hear that all the time at Olympic games but I don't know how it goes. Or the words.

[Bluebear]

34. Here ya go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooXjhdW0ht4

[Manifestor_of_Light]

37. Origin of "Deutschland uber Alles"

Hitler's Fight Song is called "Austria" when in hymn form.

Its original form is in the second movement (theme and variations) of a string quartet (Op. 76, Nr. 3) by Franz Joseph Haydn. It's popularly known as the "Emperor" quartet.

And yes, I AM a musician.

[Bluebear]

38. Well okay then!

I AM a musician too! :)

[yurbud]

24. 2nd & 3rd verses of "Star Spangled Banner":

On the shore, dimly seen thro’ the mist of the deep,
Where the foe’s outstretched entrails in silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected, in pooling blood streams
’Tis the star-spangled banner. Oh! long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footstep’s pollution.
No refuge could save them, they'll wish they were dead
For when we find them, we'll sever their heads.
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

[Hardrada]

28. No wonder we never sang those! I had no idea!

[SoCalDem]

30. Rule Britannia?or God Save the Queen?

:)

[Hardrada]

32. The latter one I think. Hey! I spelled Britannia wrong!!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

35. Thomas Arne wrote Rule Britannia.

But it's not "God Save the Weasel" or "Pop goes the Queen", either.

[Hardrada]

44. I remember those ! Funny!

[LeftishBrit]

39. Definitely "God Save the Queen"

"Send her victorious/ Happy and glorious/ Long to reign over us..."

As a child, my friend thought that meant that it would RAIN over us for a long time - fairly appropriate to the British National Anthem!

[Hardrada]

42. LOL!

[alfredo]

45. "Liberty Bell March" John Philip Sousa.

http://www.midicenter.com/midi/midi_files/tv_movies/Liberty_Bell_March_Monthy_Python_2.mid

It's really a great march.

[reprobate]

47. It's MONTY PYTHON!

[alfredo]

49. Yep! It barely beat out "Peaches En Regalia."

http://www.science.uva.nl/~robbert/zappa/files/mid/peaches2.mid

Zappa's the man.

[MilesColtrane]

55. And did those feet in ancient time....

maybe that was just the man with a tape recorder up his nose, or the man with three buttocks, or the nude organist....

[Hardrada]

58. Jerusalem!

I don't know about those others though.

[Hardrada]

50. Thanks, I've always liked that march.

[alfredo]

56. I like Sousa's marches. You know he always wore a brand new pair

of white leather gloves for each concert. A lot of lambs died for art.

[Hardrada]

57. Indeed! This is an informative thread. I'm going to tell my band

director friend about that.

[alfredo]

59. You shoild hear the march music of the Mideast and Africa.

It isn't just the music used, but how they treat the music. They see the music through their culture, their experience.

[GreenZoneLT]

48. God save our gracious queen,

Our great and noble queen,
God Save the Queen.

Grant her victorious, happy and glorious,
for to reign o'er us,
God Save the Queen.

It's pretty innocuous. Deutschland Ueber Alles actually had the "Deutschland Ueber Alles" verse removed from the modern version, iianm. The part with "Ueber alles ganzen Welt."

Germany, Germany, over everything,
Over everything in the entire world.

For some reason, that part gave some people the willies.

Finland has the best national anthem, followed by New Zealand. They're both very happy, puppy, peace and flower songs.

Everybody knows Finlandia. Here's the second verse of God Defend New Zealand.

May our mountains ever be
Freedom's ramparts on the sea
Lifting voices unto thee
God defend our free land

Guard her in the nations' van
Teaching hope and love to man
Working out thy glorious plan
God Defend New Zealand.

[Hardrada]

51. Thanks. Some dear friends of ours spent several years

in NZ and loved the place. One of them sadly is now quite ill but he used to tell us of his fondness for the area they stayed. Papakaio I think.