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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:48 PM
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What will be the outcome of the Georgian-Ossetian war?
MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti military commentator Ilya Kramnik) - The very real possibility of full-scale war between Georgia and South Ossetia raises questions about its possible outcome.

At present, the Georgian armed forces have more than 30,000 men, including 20,000 ground forces. They are equipped with more than 200 tanks, including 40 T-55s and 165 T-72s, which are currently being upgraded. Apart from tanks, the ground forces have 200 combat armored vehicles, including about 180 infantry combat vehicles and armored personnel carriers (APCs). The ground troops can receive artillery support from 120 artillery pieces of 122 mm-152 mm caliber, 40 multiple-launch rocket systems, and 180 mortars.

The Georgian Air Force is equipped with five Su-25 (Frogfoot) close support aircraft, 15 L-29 and L-39 combat training aircraft, which can be used as light assault planes, and 30 helicopters, including eight MI-24 attack helicopters.

Available estimates put the South Ossetian forces at a mere 2,500 officers and men, or 16,000, including reservists. They are armed with 15 T-55 and T-72 tanks, 24 Gvozdika and Akatsiya self-propelled artillery units, 12 D-30 towed howitzers, six multiple-launch rocket systems, four 100-mm Rapir anti-tank weapons, and more than 30 mortars. In addition, the South Ossetian army has 22 infantry combat vehicles, 24 APCs, and six combat patrol vehicles.

The infantry is equipped with small arms of Soviet or Russian make, and has several dozen Fagot and Konkurs anti-tank rocket systems. Its air force consists of four MI-8 multi-purpose transport helicopters. South Ossetia can defend itself against air attacks with four to six Osa, three Tunguska, three Shilka, and six Strela-10 air defense rocket systems. It also has 12 23-mm ZU-23/2 twin antiaircraft guns (some of which are mounted on GAZ-66 trucks), and up to 100 Igla and Strela man-portable air-defense missiles.

A forecast of the outcome of this war (as well as a potential conflict with Abkhazia) cannot be based on mathematics alone. In the mountains, even a very small unit can resist a numerically much stronger enemy. In this case, the outcome of the conflict will primarily depend on the training of forces and the influence of third parties.

The training of the Georgian army is not likely to have changed much in the last two months and, with the exception of a few units, it is not rated too high. Like the Abkhazian armed forces, South Ossetian armies are better trained and motivated. Moreover, the Abkhazian leader has already expressed readiness to support South Ossetia in a war against Georgia.

Georgia can win only if it is backed by the United States and its other allies. And even with such support, its victory will mean heavy losses, and entail lengthy guerilla warfare.

The opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.


http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080808/115905108.html
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:50 PM
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1. The restoration of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:23 PM
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10. Word to that. n/t
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:51 PM
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2. Public recognition that U.S. troops are overstretched.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:51 PM
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3. Higher stock market prices, capitalism loves war profits
11,734.32 +302.89 / +2.65%

Aug 8 4:04pm ET †
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:52 PM
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4. I haven't studied this, but, given what we know about Putin . . .
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 07:53 PM by MrModerate
He'll do whatever it takes to gobble of all of Georgia -- his aim in this particular move toward expanding the Russian Empire to (at least) the borders of the former USSR. And despite the low morale and shoddy equipment of the Russian forces, he's got all the resources he needs. Europe will do nothing. Bush will do nothing. Georgia is toast.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:00 PM
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5. A lot of death and destruction for real estate and "patriotism".
And, man's incredible capacity for slaughtering each other for the sake of their egos.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:03 PM
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6. A basket of kittens would fare better against a fucking lawnmower.
The result will be a Russian satellite formerly known as the former Russian satellite.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:17 PM
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7. Killing all the Georgians would hardly even the score
Consider how many Russians were killed by Joseph Stalin (born Jossif Vissarionovich Dhzugazvilli) and Lavrentii Beria (head of secret police and also a Georgian).

There are lots of scores to be settled in the former Soviet Union.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:20 PM
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8. Yeah, no love lost there. I'm staying out of it.
:hi:
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 08:21 PM
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9. Stupid question
Of course Russia wins, and it's now a war between Russia and Georgia.
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