Does the Edward's affair help highlight JOHN MCCAIN'S AWFUL DIVORCE?

[Ichingcarpenter]

John McCain's awful divorce history has stayed out of the election news cycle.
I'm trying to look at something we can use on this.


I don't care about Edward's affair but I do care about winning this election.

[lisa58]

1. Only if McCain's camp makes a big deal about it...

...Edwards isn't the candidate.

[Virginia Dare]

4. Probably what the OP is getting at..

I've been kind of wondering about the timing myself. Could be a trap.

[DesertFlower]

2. same here. nt

[TornadoTN]

3. I believe it could open that avenue

Since the news media loves these types of things, the more noise that is made about McCain's past, the more likely they are to latch on.

The nation loves a sex scandal (which is pathetic) and there's no doubt about it. People need to be digging into McCain's past to see what they can find along these lines.

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. Most Americans don't know about McCain's past marriage, affairs or divorce

It is never brought up, but I'm sure the talking pundits will be talking
endlessly about Edwards.

[TornadoTN]

10. This may be the opportunity to make some noise on that front

The nations eyes aren't on important matters happening today (Georgia v. Russia), they are on this Edwards mess and it'll be there for a while - sex sells.

If anyone is going to seize on McCain's past, today is the first day that it's open season on that subject. I think we have a real opportunity here (not being insensitive to the Edwards situation, just pointing out a silver lining to the campaign).

[gateley]

5. I hope so --

Another DUer posted that McCain will be frothing at the mouth to denounce Edwards, but he won't be able to! :evilgrin:

Regardless, I hope this does put McCain's behavior under the spotlight.

I've lost any concern about being "nice" during this election.

[tavalon]

24. He can if he wants to

So, McCain, do you feel lucky? :evilgrin:

[Bluebear]

6. Kindly take a look and maybe recommend THIS THREAD . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3753846&mesg_id=3753846

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. Done...... I was gonna put the story in this one

but thought it wasn't necessary since so many have been done on DU

[lisa58]

11. done

[SunDrop23]

7. No because the MSM will continue to give McBush a pass...(nt)

[DJ13]

12. If we keep pointing it out the MSM will back off the Edwards story

They really wouldnt give the Edwards story wall to wall coverage if they think it might hurt McCain.

[tbyg52]

25. Yep. They can either shut up or report *all* the news.

Yeah, like that'll happen.....

[Ichingcarpenter]

28. I think the corporate media is a bigger enemy than the republicans

because if the media told the truth there would be no republican party.

[tbyg52]

29. Ain't that the truth? nt

[malaise]

13. 100% correct n/t

[DailyGrind51]

14. What about that sanctimonious hypocrite Gingrich?

That fat useless hunk of shit divorced his cancer-ridden wife while she was in the hospital, and he was lecturing on the importance of "character" in political office! Even the sight of Gingrich raises my blood pressure!:mad:

[JDPriestly]

15. Yes. Same issue. Honesty and integrity. Values.

McCain's values were to have a really sexy, attractive wife. Sum total. He did not value his wife once she was disabled, shorter and not as attractive (and possibly not as easy to live with) as she had been before her accident. Never mind that she stayed loyal to him throughout his time in prison.

And McCain is lying about his relationship with Cindy and how he got into his relationship with her. He makes it sound like a really great little adventure -- love at first sight. Never mind that he was married and that his messing around with a younger, more attractive, more active, richer, healthier, taller . . . . . . . woman while still married to a wife who really needed his love and care. Never mind that he had children who had not benefited from his presence when they needed him.

This is about values.

I speak as one who has been married many, many years. There are lots of opportunities, especially in middle age, to find someone else. But, if you are a loving person, you think hard and long before giving in to some impulse or even before allowing yourself to become physically involved in a relationship with someone you really think you could care about -- because you know that your infidelity would cause the person or people who rely on you and with whom your life is bound, with whom you are one, not just your spouse but also your children, terrible pain.

McCain showed early on that he has no understanding of human values. I thought Edwards was better than that. I am disappointed to say that he was willing to cause his family terrible pain for short-lived pleasure. But that is not why I am angry with him.

I am angry with him because when he lied to the press, he lied to me. I campaigned for him, spend many hours working on his campaign. He didn't just cheat Elizabeth. He also cheated little folks like me out of the money we donated to his campaign -- for a hopeless effort -- and the many hours we spent working to try to get him elected. He made fools of us all. Sorry, that's not the kind of person I want to see in the White House. I've had enough of that kind.

So, yes, the Edwards matter does highlight precisely what is wrong with John McCain. Integrity matters. Character matters. Caring about others matters. Honesty matters.

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. McCain offering his wife out to skanky biker's beauty pageant

is another example of a lack of McCain's character and integrity.

Maybe the Edwards affair can bring McCain's present and past history to light.


I supported Edwards after Dennis and hoped he could be VP
which I guess is out of the question now.

[appal_jack]

16. Discussion of McLame's affair is apparently verboten

This morning (8/8/08) on the first hour of the Friday News Roundup of the Diane Ream Show on NPR, a caller tried to bring-up McLame's series of affairs (with Cindy as the final one pre-divorce & remarriage) and subsequent divorce from Carol, and Diane CUT HIM OFF (something she very rarely does).

IOW, discussion of McLame's affair is apparently verboten, but Edwards will be front page news for days or weeks to come.

IOKIYAAR.

-app

[Ichingcarpenter]

23. Was that before the news broke?

I've seen and listened to the same thing the past year about discussing McCain's 'love life'
but wonder now, if perhaps it won't be such verboten subject.

[appal_jack]

27. I think it's live @ 10 AM

I am pretty sure that the Diane Ream Show is live when I hear it at 10 AM Eastern US Time.

I had not heard about Edwards then (beyond the rumors of the past few months), so I guess that the news had not broken.

Nonetheless, the vehemence in Diane's interruption of the caller shocked me, especially because I am pretty sure that everything he said about McLame was 100% true.

-app

[Ichingcarpenter]

30. Maybe you should try to call in tomorrow?

Don't forget to mention Ronald Reagan also.

[riverdeep]

17. If we had the equavilent of Rove on our side, this would already be happening.

Plus, don't forget about that bizarre story the NYT did on McCains's affair with a lobbyist that seemed to disappear into the ether. Regardless, it would be very smart for our talking heads to use this as an opportunity to just casually mention the fact that he walked out on his crippled wife, and speculating now, would probably walk out on this one too if she wasn't loaded (with money, not pills).

[Lisa0825]

18. I htink everytime a Democratic surrogate is asked about Edwards,

McCain's affair should be brought up in the response.

[Disturbed]

21. McNasty's affair with Cindy is fair game.

If Rethugs rag on the John Edward's affair it is fair to mention McNasty's.

[tbyg52]

26. Absolutely. Sauce for the goose, and all that. nt

[leftofthedial]

20. not with the corporate media, it doesn't.

[gatorboy]

22. Only if McCain fathered a child during the affair.

Edwards might have one upped him there.

[SalviaBlue]

31. I know I'm going to mention it...

everytime someone brings up Edwards.

I already did today, when my (repub) boss told me he heard about Edwards on the radio and said "What's with these guys; first Clinton, now Edwards. I said "Let's not forget about McCain and his affair while married with a much younger woman who he eventually left his disabled wife for."

I am so disappointed in Edwards.

But the silver lining is that I can mention McCain's affair too.

[SalviaBlue]

32. I forgot: Recommended