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Paula Sims (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:44 PM Original message |
Why must smart = elitist? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't think it is 'smart' I think they are referring to education |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. I think you are correct. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. I don't agree. There's been a concerted anti-intellecutalism effort afoot for many years now. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Reminds me a lot of the tyranny of the jocks in HS |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Yes. I was thinking the exact same thing when I read the OP. It's really sickening when you think |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. Obama is the athlete-scholar. If he had played for the NBA, even the knuckledraggers would vote for |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Oh yes |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. It does help to find your niche, doesn't it? |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. i dont think you are elitist for having small feet... |
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loveable liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Fear requires the absence of thought and understanding. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. They arent afraid of smart people |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. They represent people who are willfully and proudly ignorant. |
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bluethruandthru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. Anyone who thinks for him or herself |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. 'Cuz bein' one of the common folks is considered to be "populist". |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Another choice Agnewism: "Naterring Nabobs." |
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Kat45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
43. ...of Negativity." |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. It's also another way to dismiss facts. |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. Bush and his cronies can't really compete intellectually, and they know it. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. It is not |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. I blame the political media |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
11. Because smart = critical thinking and critical thinking is a no no |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. Stupid people are threatened by smart people, |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. As someone who is slightly below average on book smarts |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Damn that was a great post... |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Blush |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
88. exactly, thank you n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. You can reserve the right to blush more as that is the best post I've read all morning, and |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. The people in charge don't honestly think that. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Well said |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Many of these people are |
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IntravenousDemilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. Also, why is the smart son always the gay son? n/m |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. It doesn't because the lame brains have no idea what either of those |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
17. Lots of reasons, here's a few... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. "Either people are equal, or they aren't" |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Enjoyed the rant. Thx. nt |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. I know that education and intelligence aren't linked: I used to teach on the college level |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. I must disagree with you somewhat. |
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Care (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. I Don't Understand What You Said |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #36 |
51. All excellent points |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. I have a theory on that one |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
81. That sounds like me, LOL! |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
53. About "disliking something the common herd likes" |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. OK, point taken on that one |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
77. I think that explains some of the progressive primary opposition to Obama. |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Define "Middle America" first. There is a red herring along the lines of |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
91. Not at all |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. A little too stereotypical. That definition just doesn't work; it does underscore my |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
76. Good points. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
20. Inherited wealth used to used to be the criteria for "elitism", |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. I grew up with the word |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
52. The surprising thing about Bush is that he comes off more like |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. Why does "elitist" = "bad" |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I partially agree with you, |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
74. You have a good point here |
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RNdaSilva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. Agree with 21. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. What is moral superiority? |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Of course |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. True! Christian Fundamentalists follow a skewed interpretation of Calvinism |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #72 |
92. And It's reflective |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
22. Hopefully some of the |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. Bush made stupid people feel secure in their stupidity |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's because people percieve that they are looked down upon by those smarter then them. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Is that perception correct, though? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. Fear dulls the mind, and many who are fearful resent those who refuse to have their minds |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Good one. nt |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
34. Because republicans aren't smart. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
35. Not just the right wing, look this thread over. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. wow -- thanks for that link. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #38 |
54. It would be so cool that I might develop a sense of hope regarding this nation's future. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. smart has a liberal bias |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. "Reality has a liberal bias" |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. greed, fear, and hatred have a republican bias |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-26-08 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
42. it's the difference between being "smart" and "thinking you are the smartest person in the room"... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. With some very, very few exceptions |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
48. Them real smart folks is aways treat'n me elitist, I'll tell ya good. Um.. Whadda elitist mean? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
56. No idea. I'm with you. If anything, I want leaders who I think |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. Paula Sims, eh? |
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MattSh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
62. Why must smart = elitist? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
63. Because it makes dumbshits feel better. And they're the vast majority.... |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
64. Because REPUBLICONS ARE ELITE AND DUMB. |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
65. Why do people only have a problem with intelligence? |
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KingFish019 (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
80. ... |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
67. We have this false idea in this country that everybody is equal to everyone else. |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Have you watched The Incredibles? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
78. Isn't that one of the traits of fascism? |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Depends which version of fascism |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
79. My wife is a mensa member |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
82. "Progressives" aren't any more supportive of intellect - it's an *American* thing. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
84. Anybody have similar memories to this? |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
85. Smart is as smart does? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
87. some "smart" people ARE elitists |
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The Gunslinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
89. Because republican = Dumb |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-27-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
90. I think this thread is stumbling over the issue of CLASS... |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Damn, never thought of that |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. LOL. Now mentioning class is "right", huh? |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. No, no, no, |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Sorry for jumping the gun. The "I've got mine; screw you" brigade is in full force on DU today |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. No problem |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-28-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
98. Because stupid people do not understand the big words we use. |
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