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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 01:20 AM
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Family Values: Father violently chases gay son from home
ANDERSON COUNTY Violence broke out Sunday in Anderson when an 18-year-old man returned home from a gay pride parade and was assaulted by his father.

According to the Anderson County Sheriff's Office, the battering took place about 1 p.m. Sunday on P Street.

During the assault, the teen's 49-year-old father yelled, cursed, swung a baseball bat, prayed and tried to cast the demon of homosexuality out of him, according to the teen's version of events to Deputy S.C. Weymouth, the incident report states.

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http://www.independentmail.com/news/2008/jul/18/anderso...
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 01:25 AM
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1. Dad's an asshole.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 02:24 AM
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3. Plain and simple
Yup
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:12 PM
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15. He's far more than that.
Insulting his son for being gay would make him an asshole. This makes him a violent criminal and a gay-basher.

I hope his sone finds and builds a far better family than he was born into. I hope he stays safe and has a good life.

But having your father do something like this leaves scars. :(
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 02:23 AM
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2. Maybe it's the demons of assholery someone needs to chase out of dear old dad...
Gawd, I hate religious assholes.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 02:39 AM
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4. So many people are in the dark.
Reacting out of fear.

The least little challenge to their mighty truth...

But they hold to those ingrained fears like a patriot to a flag. Devotion to the truth. For them.

And they're out there.

People who's belief is shaped by fear. Anything different is the work of the devil.

Such cowering.

A slogan does not a belief make. Or should not.

Yet they are real.


And people too, on this planet.

We must do more than cast them aside, as they do to so many.

The guy's a jerk, but he doesn't know it.

I feel sorry for him.
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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 06:15 PM
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24. I agree...
And you will never have such a challenge in tolerance.

It's obvious, people need to spend more time on themselves instead of worrying how someone else is living their own life :)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 02:48 AM
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5. stupid asshole
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 02:51 AM
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6. Spare the baseball bat, spoil the child. Dad needs some quiet time in the slammer.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:13 PM
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16. He needs a lot of it.
x(

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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:07 AM
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7. Well it is South Carolina, what did he expect
$1 says the fuy walks.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:50 AM
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8. Yelled, cursed, prayed, assaulted, and tried exorcism?
Sounds like dad had a psychotic breakdown. I hope he's being evaluated.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:15 AM
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9. Except for tha bat, this is not uncommon.
My nephew and his partner were married in NY a few months ago. Only our family showed up. Turns out his partner's family disowned him when he told them he was gay, many years ago.
He is a great guy, and his family is the loser, but I know their stupid behavior affects him.

mark
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:11 AM
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10. What I want to know is how the kid kept a straight face
with his old man flailing about with a baseball bat, screaming about the demon of homosexuality, cursing and praying and trying an exorcism. It would make a hilarious ideo.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:19 AM
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11. Um... doubt he was finding humour, while being assualted
with a baseball bat.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:22 AM
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12. I don't think it's the least bit funny....
having a father swinging a baseball bat at his son. There isn't anything even remotely funny in that. And I doubt very much if the son thought it was funny, either.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:15 PM
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17. Getting smacked with a bat is not very "yuk worthy".
It would have scared the hell out of me.



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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:16 PM
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18. Having your own parent demean and attack you, chase you,
and make it abundantly clear that you're evil is not likely to strike many kids as funny. :(

This kid is going to feel very alone. I hope he has very good supportive friends, and someplace safe to live.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:28 AM
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13. recommend
the good ol days ain't over.

i can well imagine there are plent in s. carolina setting this man up as some kind of righteous figure.
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ThePowerofWill Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:35 AM
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14. Pretty sad situation.
The thought of this exact thing is what started my transformation from homophobe. Growing up rural in the Bible belt i was raised on the usual gay bashing bullshit. When my oldest son was born during the Reagan years i remember hearing of such stories. These stories made me think of what would i do if my son was gay. My love for my son was stronger than the homophobia, and i decided i would never, or could never take that kind of action against people i loved. That string of thought began a whole life time of deprogramming of the unhealthy state of mind i had before.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:27 PM
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19. The stupidity of religion on display
These are the same assholes that believe that mental illness is caused by demonic possession and that dinosaurs existed during the times of Noah and the Flood.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:31 PM
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20. Feel that fundamentalist love!
:puke:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 12:57 PM
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21. i hope the father educates himself and eventually reconciles with his son...
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 06:08 PM
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22. And of course the son has the Christian duty to "honor his father"
The commandment says to "honor your father and mother", so the son has the duty to honor his father. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Of course "good Christians" like the father are very likely to be the kind who insist that the Ten Commandments need to be displayed in public places.

While I am not gay, I grew up having had a very difficult father. He often treated and honest mistake, an honest forgetting of something, or something not quite up to his standards as if it were a crime. And he would invariably say that what he was saying or doing was for my own good.

And sometimes (though not always) he was very poor at understanding, from my point of view, some sensitive issue that was causing me to be upset. Sometimes it seemed he did not even try to understand. He would often lecture me and say things that demonstrated a lack of understanding.

I had difficulties enough when I was young, both with my dad and with some of the mean kids in school. I shudder to think how much more difficulty I would have had if it turned out I was gay, i.e. if I had found that I was attracted to boys rather than to girls. People were not as open and accepting about being gay in the 1960's and 1970's as they are now.

I have to wonder, in particular, how my father would have taken it if I were gay and had told him about it. Actually one of the big problems I had with my dad was that he was rather unpredictable; sometimes he could be understanding and sympathetic, and other times he could be extremely judgmental.

I came to realize how angry I still was at my dad a little over a year after he died, over 20 years ago now. I had also been a Christian as a young man for about 15 years before my dad died. Along with the realization as to how angry I still had been at my dad, and that much of his behavior was actually abusive (i.e. it was not just something wrong or "sinful" with me that I had problems with him), I also came to realize that my supposedly having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ had been of no help to me in dealing with my dad those times he was obnoxious or abusive. After a period of time I eventually came to realize that I was not a Christian at all any more.

I think the Bible is subject to human fallibility and human prejudice just like anything else that has ever been written, and I think the commandment to unconditionally "honor your father and mother" is an example of something in the Bible that is definitely wrong, however time-honored the commandment may be and however much at the center of traditional Judeo-Christian morality it might lie. Anybody who advocates displaying the Ten Commandments in public places might just as well tell me to my face that it was my duty to gratefully accept all the "loving" rebukes from my dad which he decided in Godlike fashion that I needed "for my own good".

When I was a Christian I tended to uncritically accept the judgments of some Christians that homosexuality was something wrong and unnatural, because of what the Bible said (and I was not gay myself). However a former pastor at a theologically "liberal" church that I used to go to at one time gave a talk at a singles group meeting at the church. One of the things he said that struck me, and that I remember, is that people do not choose who they are attracted or not attracted to; they find themselves attracted to certain people. And some people find that they are attracted to people of the same sex.

Here is an episode in a series of episodes at a fictional cafe in another web site in which I post, in which an estranged father, who had previously rejected his son when his son came out to him as gay, comes to the cafe to inquire about his son and perhaps reestablish contact and communication with him.

One of the things that the father said was that he had felt, in effect, that there was a gay man standing before him who looked like his son, and who had murdered the son that the father thought he had.

http://www.lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=818

(Note: One of the comments in response to this blog episode is mine.)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 06:12 PM
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23. "The Lord is my crutch. He leadeth me to justify my hatred of all that...
is different or incomprehensible to my tiny pigeon-sized brain. He leadeth me to still waters which I befoul with my idiot piss..."
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 06:15 PM
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25. Someone should take a baseball bat to the idiot dad...
and knock the stupid Christianism out of HIM.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 06:17 PM
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26. That's so horribly sad.
How could a parent do that? Just completely beyond my comprehension.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:19 AM
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27. Churches advocating violence and hate should be taxed
and fined. Lose their status for tax exemption. Hate harms us all, and standards of decency have to be set.
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