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neohippie Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:49 AM
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Repugnant Email "The Frog Theory"
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 08:56 AM by neohippie
I just received this warped email from my right wing nut uncle... It never ceases to amaze me how some people can live with such a distorted view of history, their denial is so great, even when you try to calmly present the facts to them the right wing masses continue to believe this drivel

I have posted the email below.

Dear Friends:

An email from Dr. Larry J. Tracy.. His message is
titled "The Frog Theory." He explains why we never
see danger until it is too late.

If you drop a frog in boiling water he will leap
right out. If you slowly heat the water he will be content
until it's too late to get out. That is exactly how
history works. It moves slowly and we never really see any
danger until it's too late.

Remember how suppressed workers were before
unions came along? The unions leveled the playing field.
Unfortunately, over a long period of time the pendulum
swung too far. Slowly, businesses and factories closed and
jobs left the country. We were comfortable and didn't
see the change coming. We blamed everyone except ourselves
for what happened. We weren't alert to how slow things
change over time.

World War II, and the Korean War, demonstrated
how powerful a united nation could be. Our nation, and our
families, were united. The father was the head of the
family and the President was the head of the nation. Both
were highly respected. We were content and happy.

We were good at fighting a hot war but we were
unprepared to fight a cold war with the communists in the
50's. They knew they couldn't change us but they
didn't care. Their philosophy was to wait it out and
capture the minds of our children. They loaded our colleges
with many of their professors and waited. It didn't take
long to see the results.

The 60''s ushered in the radicals, drug
culture, student protesters, and the Vietnam War. The aim
of the cold war was to divide and conquer. They divided our
families and the nation. The secret to defeating a polite
and respectful people is to scream. The louder and longer
you scream the better your chance of winning. Radicals are
masters at this form of attack. They know if you constantly
scream and repeat a lie it will eventually become the truth.

The media, and Hollywood, hammered us with hate
America themes and stories. Our service men, and women,
were jeered, cursed, and spit on. Even the people, one of
whom later wanted to become their President, trashed them.
We lost our first War in history. There was no hero's
homecoming for our fighting men and women.

The Reverend King, who was raised in the old
school, peacefully changed the race issue and united the
people. When he died the new breed of leaders like the
Jesse Jackson's, Lewis Farrakon,'s Al
Sharpton's, and Rev. Wright's put a lid on his
efforts and turned racism into a money making machine.

Corporations were green-mailed by threats of
protests, product boycotts, or endless lawsuits. Every
issue, large or small, became a race issue. The public
recoiled in fear of being called a racist. Their voices
were silenced because one word could cost you a career, get
you fired, or get you sued.

Even politicians buckled under to the pressure.
The Florida legislature issued a formal apology for having
slavery 200 years ago. They were thanked by being asked for
compensation. There is no end in sight for this kind of
nonsense. America didn't capture slaves and bring them
to America. Their own people sold them to slave traders
from several nations. This knowledge doesn't stop the
screamers. History is what it is and you can't change
it. There have been many tragic events in history. You
acknowledge them and move on.

They divided our nation into two separate
Americas. We now have Americans, and African-Americans,
although Africa has nothing to do with being an American.
You can be one or the other but not both. You are what you
were born to be. You do not subordinate our country to any
foreign nation. It's equivalent to flying the African
flag above the Stars and Stripes. If you hyphenate two
countries America always comes first.

This election year could be the turning point in
our history because the frog theory has come into play.
It's time to step back and look at how the country has
slowly changed since the cold war started. Don't get
caught up in all the hype.

George McGovern was the first Presidential
candidate to test the waters with college students. The
Clinton's played a big role in his campaign. It was the
worst campaign ever run. He was crushed in the election.

Step two was to infiltrate all the information
vehicles such as radio, newspapers, magazines, TV and
movies. They were quite successful at that. Jimmy Carter
was the first President to demonstrate the leadership
skills of the far left. Weak military, high taxes, runaway
inflation, 19% mortgage rates, and plain incompetence ended
his career in Washington. Iran, a small country at the time,
took American hostages and kicked sand in our face. By
negotiating from weakness Carter could not get the hostages

The big benefit of the Carter years is that they
were followed by the Reagan years. The nation got a clear
look at the difference between a weak nation and a strong
nation. Every student should know this difference. When
Ronald Reagan took over the hostages were quickly released,
taxes were lowered, inflation dropped, mortgage rates
dropped, and the military was strengthened. Russia quickly
waved the white flag and waited for another Democrat term.

Clinton took over Carters uncompleted social
programs. He weakened the military and tried to pass large
government programs. An Intern derailed his Presidency.
While he was tied up with his personal problems his lawyers
ran the country. He passed up three opportunities to take
out Osama Bin Laden. This eventually cost us the loss of
our Twin Towers, thousands of American lives, and got us
involved in a war with Iraq.

By the end of his term the left had captured a
large share of the media and it flexed its muscle in 2000.
The hate Bush campaign got off to a roaring start. The
brainwashing theory of repeating the same story over and
over again was launched.

There were endless stories about our evil nation
and its President. Top-secret plans were leaked to the
press and printed for the entire world to see. Hollywood
cranked out documentaries about the evil Bush
administration and our evil military. They laid the
groundwork for the next election. The ACLU flooded the
courts with lawsuits and the Democratic party became a law
firm. Almost every incumbent, or his or her spouse, is a

They now have the perfect candidate because they
can squash criticism by playing the race card. If you
don't like Obama, or criticize him, you are a racist.
They can hide his inexperience and background by turning
him into a rock star and singing change and hope. They
don't tell us what kind of change, or how it will be
done, only that you should hope for the best. By keeping
the hype going they don't have to put anything of
substance on the table.

The only thing we really know about Obama is that
his wife has never been proud to be an American. They want
us to believe that his liberal college professors, Rev.
Pfleger, his ties to radicals Bill Ayer and Lewis Farrakon,
and listening to the Rev. Wright's hate talks for 20
years, had no influence on his thinking. If they
didn't, then who did? He wasn't in business and
didn't see fit to serve his country. These people
launched his political career and their organizations
received earmarks in return for their campaign donations
and political help. They must have had some influence. Rev.
Wright's church received over $15 million. That's
only one small local church. Think on a national scale.

The change being promoted is a change back to the
Carter years. It started in 2006 when the lawyer party took
over. There have been endless lawsuits and investigations
in retaliation for the Clinton years. It keeps the lawyers
busy but does nothing for the economy. The economy has been
in a downward spiral since they took over.

Returning to the Carter years of high taxes, high
inflation, and a weak military is not the change we are
looking for. We cannot cower to a bunch of crazies whose
only goal in life is to kill us.

The old sage's (over 50) will have to play a
big role in this election. The young people simply
don't know what the aged know. The advantage of aging
is the knowledge you accumulated. You know what United
States means. You know what the seldom-heard word respect
means. You know how wonderful freedom and independence is.
You know the difference between a strong an d a weak
nation; and you know what it takes to keep it strong. You
know history because you have lived it.

Although the old guard is dying off, and getting
too tired to fight, they have to muster one more charge. If
they don't, our children, and grandchildren, will never
know the joy and freedom that is the bedrock of our
country. The heat is slowly being turned up and the water
is getting hot. The old frogs better start jumping before
it's too late.

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:53 AM
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1. Where does one start?
This strikes all the right-wing notes in one fell swoop, particularly racism and hatred of the Clintons.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:32 AM
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18. 1st go back to the menu then left click another thread. n/t
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:53 AM
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2. I don't even try with people like this
Not only are their minds closed to reality-they're nailed shut. I just take them off my email list.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:56 AM
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3. Proponents of this bullshit
are not ready for intelligent discourse. No discernment there.

The Reagan years!!! (Gag!!)
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:57 AM
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4. good grief
I don't want to say anything, but I just went to the dictionary, and looked up 'clueless'.

This exact email was listed as an example.

Depressing to think there are enough idiots in this country who will buy into this...this...what the fuck do you call this? Words fail me.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:57 AM
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5. You could answer with just one question.
When Reagan was leading this "strong nation," what was his response to Islamic terrorism when they killed over 240 American troops in the Beirut barracks attack?

Or, alternatively:

Please list the anti-Osama or anti-terrorism initiatives taken by the Bush Administration from January 21, 2001 to September 10,2001.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:01 AM
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6. So, who is this "Dr. Larry J. Tracy" fella?
Never heard of him.


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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:34 AM
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7. He's a professional spam e-mail,
One site identifies him as a "columnist". Other versions of the e-mail identify him (anonymously) as a "friend for 50 years."
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:22 AM
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16. Ignoramus's always think that two first names is distinguished
I would bet the farm he's as made up as Ricky Bobby :lol:

What a stupid hee-haw name Larry J Tracy :rofl:

They're so stupid it's funny.

And OH HOLY FUCK THAT EMAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!! GAH! Every RW puking point I've ever heard in one revolting little capsule. BLARGH the stupid... it hurts!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:40 AM
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8. So this guy has nothing,
absolutely nothing negative to say about the past 7 years of Republican rule?

Has he been living in a cave somewhere?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:48 AM
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9. typical rw whiney crap.
middle-aged white guys no longer call tune in america -whaaa!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:50 AM
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10. A call to enslave the Future to the Past. This Old Hippie thinks the Real Frogs need to read
The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:02 AM
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11. Wow, I didn't realize that Africa was a country.
I always thought it was a continent. Well, he's the doctor, he should know. I also thought that apostrophes were used to show possession and not to make words plural, but once again I'll defer to the good doctor. I'd be damned if the economy didn't turn sour in 2001 and not in 2006 like he suggests, but what do I know? And I may be part of the under 30 crowd, but in my own estimation I know quite a bit more than any 50+ year old person who votes republican. Maybe I'm just being a little too strict by not considering "Damn you kids! Get off my lawn!" as wisdom. Not to nitpick, but I thought that Reagan had coordinated with the Iranians prior to his presidency in order to get the hostages freed. This is something that he swore that he'd never do, but the fact that they were released mere minutes after his inauguration would kind of bear that out. There's so many things in this email that I could just swear ain't true, but he's the doctor, not me.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:08 AM
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12. Yeah. Reagan. The fucking guy that got us sucking on the Saudi oil tit to begin with.
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 10:10 AM by tjwash
Dumb ass fucks that forward this crap don't even know how they are being jobbed.

At least Carter wanted to get us off of oil and coal, and on to clean renewables. The fucking oil barons would have none of that shit though...
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:11 AM
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13. Debunked by Snopes
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 10:19 AM by MathGuy

According to Dr. Victor Hutchison, a Research Professor Emeritus from the University of Oklahoma's Department of Zoology, whose research interests include "the physiological ecology of thermal relations of amphibians and reptiles to include determinations of the factors which influence lethal temperatures, critical thermal maxima and minima, thermal selection, and thermoregulatory behavior":

The legend is entirely incorrect! The 'critical thermal maxima' of many species of frogs have been determined by several investigators. In this procedure, the water in which a frog is submerged is heated gradually at about 2 degrees Fahrenheit per minute. As the temperature of the water is gradually increased, the frog will eventually become more and more active in attempts to escape the heated water. If the container size and opening allow the frog to jump out, it will do so.

So given that the first sentence of this email is crap, why should anyone believe the rest of it?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:15 AM
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14. Send him this as a reply:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:18 AM
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15. Hmm. I thought WE won the Cold War by corrupting the commies with our consumer culture - not the
other way 'round. I am so confused.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:30 AM
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17. That's because you let commie-bastard things like facts interfere...
...with your right-thinking Murikkanism.

Stop being confused by pinko propaganda, fall into formation, and march along to a Real American drumbeat.

Otherwise they'll make you part of some goose-stepping, gray, Stalinistic mass, and you wouldn't want that to happen!

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:35 AM
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20. We won the cold war by helping Osama bleed the Soviets in Afghanistan
Now Osama is bleeding us in the same way.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:33 AM
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19. "Dr. Larry J. Tracy" is obviously shooting for a spot in the Guinness Book...
...under "Ass-backward ignorance".
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:40 AM
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21. I wonder how bad the first draft of that looked before running it through the spell-checker
It's riddled with errors of the type spell-checker passes over, such as apostrophes used for plurals, as in, "I hate liberal's because I'm a fucking moron."
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:45 AM
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22. I began reading the email, and before I knew it...
...I got stupid before I could delete it.

Teh stoopid sneaked up on me.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:46 AM
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23. Sorry , but your uncle is a goddamn idiot if he believes this horseshit
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:50 AM
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24. Uh...isn't John McCain the one who spent a half dozen years with the communists?
Seems that "Dr Larry J. Tracey" would find that rather troubling since he is so worried about "communist influence"
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:51 AM
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25. I don't think you have anything to worry about.
This e-mail is waaaay too long for its target audience. They'll be lost after the second paragraph, and they have little sense of history. It's the short, nasty, "Obama was educated in a madrassa" ones that tend to grab their attention.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:52 AM
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26. The only surprising point in this... its initial ode to unions.

It gets around it by relegating "good" liberalism to a long, long time ago...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 02:18 PM
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27. Always a hard choice to reply to such screeds, but if you do
be sure to "reply to all" and use some strong image or opening sentence to grab attention.

An appropriate one for this email would be

Bill Moyer, 73, wears a "Bullshit Protector" flap over his ear while President George W. Bush, on screen at rear, addresses the Veterans of Foreign Wars at their 106th convention Monday, Aug. 22, 2005, in Salt Lake City. Moyer served in Korea and Vietnam, and in the post-WWII occupation of Germany.

Like Bill Moyer, I call BS on the email you forwarded.

Bill Moyer and his generation fought and worked so his children and their children could live a better life with some measure of security and with the full rights specified in our Constitution.

The email mentioned unions and applauds their early work, then tears them down. Well, the reason people joined these was to win appropriate rights from the companies whose success they helped create. They fought for fair compensation, health care, a safe working environment and pensions, all areas of greater security for their lives and for the workers (their children) who followed them.

They fought for a decent life, for the right to be secure in your own home and being able to hold and express your own viewpoint.

We've now gone through eight years of having these hard fought for rights and securities chipped away by an administration consisting of quite a few people who worked under Nixon and Reagan and who have been carrying on those failed policies of distrust of the American people and disregard for their rights.

And what is the result? We once again have become a debtor nation, with a weak dollar, failing banks and people losing homes to predatory lenders. Where is the security in that?

Pensions have mostly disappeared. Health care coverage resembles a napkin more than a blanket, with ever greater portions of payment needed on top of the insurance, if you're fortunate enough to have any coverage at all. Where is the security in that?

And the Constitution, which expresses the core of our rights? This administration ignores it and undermines it on a regular basis, from limiting the right to assemble to so-called "free speech zones" to illegally wiretapping people. Right to assemble and exercise free speech? Right to privacy and security in your own home? Not so much.

This administration trumpets security, but has torn down the very government agencies that were created to help people be secure. Under their tenure, we watched a major American city drown, almost in slow motion, as far too much time passed before help arrived. FEMA was effective before they tore it apart by staffing it with people who don't believe government agencies should be the ones to help people be secure from or after a disaster. We saw the sad result of this policy during Katrina. Now we hear snippets about how each day more people grow ill from salmonella, but the FDA hasn't been able to even determine what food is the source, much less guide or protect the public. Part of security is ensuring safe food, water and air. Pretty basic, really. With all the talk of security these last eight years, you'd think they would strengthen agencies with that role. That clearly has not been the case.

That doesn't even being to cover the absolute disregard, distrust and disdain shown by an administration that lied to the public to take us to war with Iraq, and that has been gathering probing into and databasing every item it can about its citizens while insisting on full secrecy under the cover of so-called executive privilege for itself.

Accountability? Security? Freedom?

That better life for yourself, your children and their children? Not under this administration and not under the Republican candidate who shares their view of what America should be.

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