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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:53 PM
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Do you remember this New Yorker cover from 2007? I still have it!




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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:54 PM
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1. Oh, now THAT was a good one.
HeeHee; thanks for the laugh.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:55 PM
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2. They should have posters made out of that! LOL!
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:57 PM
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5. They have a great poster shop on their website.
Some of their covers are amazing. The one right after 9/11 was particularly moving.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:45 PM
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30. The artist that did the Obama cover is questionable I posted his past work
below.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:56 PM
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3. I posted a number of covers criticizing the Bush administration last night.
I have to admit, the difference is that the covers lampooning Bush were lampooning actual flaws in character or policy. The Obama cover is lampooning false perceptions of Obama. There should be an interesting cover in response to all this in a few weeks.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:56 PM
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4. Is that Barack Obama?! Why those...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:57 PM
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6. How about this one?


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:59 PM
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7. ... or this one?


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:12 PM
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17. The New Yorker
is the one with the name "The New Yorker" on it. Those are different magazines.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:00 PM
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8. Here's a New Yorker cover which may serve to redeem them at least
a little bit:





The actual cover was more subtle, the missing towers in semi-gloss against a matte background. It looked like a solid black cover at first. It caught the sorrow over the loss of the towers without any of the jingoistic bombast that so many memorials had.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:46 PM
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40. One of the most powerful images I have ever seen.
I remember the moment I saw it and will never forget it.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:00 PM
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9. That's very different- a pumpkin doesn't have anything to do with Cheney's race
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 09:33 PM by lastliberalintexas
The New Yorker could have used a different caricature with which to mock Obama, and it would have just been par for the course. They could have done a Mad Magazine type cover playing up his nerdy appearance and big ears (I like nerds, so don't take this personally). They could have even had a cover denigrating the Chicago Machine politics from which Obama came. They could have done any number of things which would not have been dependent on his race, but chose instead to focus on the racially derogatory stereotypes that the right wing is feeding to the electorate.

Comparing Obama to Osama has absolutely nothing in common with portraying Cheney as a piece of fruit.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:03 PM
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10. They weren't mocking Obama, they were mocking the lies spread about
Obama. The problem is that they were too subtle about it.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:07 PM
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13. Yes, but they did a rather poor job of it
Mocking the lies spread about Obama would have entailed a cover with Hannity or O'Reilly or Rush shilling for the right wing. Rush pushing those monkey tshirts from Georgia while Hannity shouts "Yes he's an Islamofascist with a crazy Christian preacher" and O'Reilly nodding while lusting after a falaffel carrying "terrorist" looking lady.

Their satire failed miserably. All they did was reinforce the lies, not undermine them.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:43 PM
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29. You need to look at the artist's past work
I consider most of his work questionable
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:06 PM
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12. No, they chose to ridicule the right wing crap. n/t
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 09:07 PM by sfexpat2000
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:08 PM
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14. Yep, that's how it comes across to the average American
If people in our country were intelligent and sophisticated enough to understand this cover, we would have enjoyed the prosperity of the President Stevenson years.
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:23 PM
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21. spare me
The New Yorker cover does work. It's only the Perpetually Outraged who are SO afraid of those darned ignorant hordes (tm) that they think it didn't

There's plenty of ignorance to go around on all areas of the political spectrum, but the New Yorker cover is some great satire.

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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:49 PM
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32. I'm glad you think so
I happen to disagree, and I know plenty of people who will simply take this cover as reinforcing the right wing lies being spread about Obama. They won't see anything in this image which actually undermines what the media have been telling them, and they won't see anything in this image to make them think that those stereotypes just might be false. Satire, like beauty, is unfortunately often in the eyes of the beholder.


It's strange, because I'm not even much of a fan of Obama. I just don't see anything in this image which actually mocks the media, just a caricature which mocks the Obamas. :shrug:
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:00 AM
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49. Despite the fact it's painfully obvious caricature?
On the front of a well known "liberal media" magazine?

Please. I haven't seen -anyone- on DU who didn't "get it" and I really, truly don't think that the general population here is any degree brighter than the general population of the country
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:00 AM
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46. So the idea is to continue to dumb down the country, right?
Because that has worked so well.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:38 AM
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45. we came up with what we thought the cover should have been
Use the same cartoon, but put it in a thought balloon from either McCain or Rove. Then the intent would have been clearer and the cartoon would have made more sense. As it is, it looks like an amateurish caricature of the Obamas and the details really do not stand out until you study it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:05 PM
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11. LOL!
:rofl:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:09 PM
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15. That's a brilliant satire of Cheney
Or is it a brilliant satire of our irrational hatred of Cheney?

I'm so confused.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:23 PM
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20. It's satire of America's anti-gourd bias. n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:36 PM
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27. For the record, I'm pro-gourdist n/t
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:10 PM
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16. Is the pirpose of this cover to defend Cheney from
absurd characterizations from his enemies? To show he is being treated unfairly using "satire"? Or do they have check boxes on the inside covers where they mark: This Caricature Is: Satire ___, -or- We really mean it this time ___.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:36 PM
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28. Excellent point! Well done! Yes, this pic is obviously ripping on people who think Cheney is evil.
I don't know how people can be so unintelligent as to not see it!

sw
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:47 PM
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31. That cover I got and that Artist's work holds up over time.... Blitt's work doesn't'.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:16 PM
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18. What's wrong with THAT?!1 n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:19 PM
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19. Not the Same Artist...... and yes it is good- but look at Blitt's past work
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 09:24 PM by Ichingcarpenter
Why don't you look at the

art/toons that Blitt has done in the past?





Now this one is just so funny he has a big nose!!!! har har har






Now this one is in 2006 and Bush and Cheney are just the odd couple, man that's deeply political
and sardonic.. What a genius on satire! They are just the odd couple, get it?




Now this one is that a take off on the famous kiss photo, but the other sailor is
not really happy with the kiss if you blow it up!!! Just in time for the don't kiss don't tell time
in the military 1996. Ha, Ha, Blitt is just a Mark Twain isn't he?




Oh, my god, a burka joke..... he is just so funny..........what a genius, he's better than Mark Twain.!!!

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:25 PM
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22. At least he didn't rip off Ziggy. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:31 PM
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25. Ziggy was funny...and sometimes deep...... Robert Crumb was funny
Gary Larson of the 'far side' was a genius as was Bill Watterson's Calvin and Hobbes

This artist sucks
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:24 PM
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33. What's your opinion of Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David?
What about the comedic stylings of Elaine Benes?
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:08 AM
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43. I adored Gary Larson's work. what happened to him?
Anyone know?
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:30 AM
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50. he retired
they still sell his calendars every so often. he works for animal wildlife preservation stuff.
I have his last desk calendars(he's done a couple "lasts"), and they are 100% recyclable, and monies are donated to the WWF ad similar wildlife federations.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:35 PM
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26. To the vault!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:25 PM
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34. THANK YOU! n/t
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:26 PM
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35. Actually, now I remember it was "To the archives!"
I've seen every episode at least five times, so it's stuck in my head. :P
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:29 PM
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37. I was hoping someone would get it! n/t
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:28 PM
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24. I guess that makes the cover less surprising - in that his art and humor have been lacking before.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:43 PM
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38. Ok, he is edgy and sometimes hard to read.
But I love the Bush Cheney one. I don't see it as the odd couple. I see it as Bush being Cheney's handmaiden. I think it is brilliant satire.

I understand that a lot of people won't get the Obama cover, but I believe in my heart of hearts several things:

The New Yorker in no way intended to harm Obama with either their cover or their article.

Obama will benefit from this. If I am wrong, shame on me. But I believe this is a critical point in the campaign and it will elevate him.

Peace
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:51 PM
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42. No, Bush has to clean up after Cheney's mess to keep his house in order
The Artist is not that deep if you look at his stuff. Don't forget this is 2006
during our senate and house elections or does that register with you?

The handmaiden analogy is even worse, unless it is from
the book and it is not.



I know propaganda, satire and comedy
PROFESSIONALLY.

The guy sucks
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:31 AM
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44. Why is your propaganda so transparent? "The guy sucks" gets you work?
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NattPang Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:27 PM
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23. Was he running for office at the time?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:28 PM
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36. Now, that is great satire
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:44 PM
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39. That's Cheney
good cover .
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:51 PM
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41. I use this toon to explain "Them"
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:47 AM
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47. that's Dubya's nose and Cheney's mouth
truly a nightmare :o
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:56 AM
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48. Looks just like him. n/t
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