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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 02:05 PM
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Unity or Solidarity
Actions mean more to me, and to the millions affected by them, than words. If Obama had voted to toss out the Fourth Amendment and Clinton had voted to keep it PRIOR to the primary in Virginia, I would have voted for Clinton. Yes, I know, Obama didn't vote to invade Iraq, but that is because he was not in the Senate at the time. As soon as he got there, he voted hundreds of billions of our dollars to fund what he supposedly opposed, as of course did Clinton who had also voted for the invasion.

FISA has nothing to do with Clinton supporters' reluctance to fall in line behind Obama. During the primaries, Obama was the bigger opponent of warrantless spying. And in my opinion most of the motivations of Clinton supporters for holding out are misguided, foolish, petty, or all three. And I think, primarily, we need to shift our focus away from a single election to other priorities. But there is a perfectly good point being made that "unity" isn't inclusive if it just means agreeing to support what somebody else wants. Progressives too are having trouble swallowing "unity" whole and are setting their funds aside in escrow to deliver to Obama if he shows any indication of supporting progressive positions: http://democrats.com/obama-escrow-fund

Supporters of Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney and other candidates, as well as the majority of Americans who don't back any candidate have the same point to make. There is a plausible argument that no matter how far Obama moves to the right, as long as McCain is still further to the right, everyone - whether grinning or holding their nose - should vote for Obama (just as there is a plausible argument for backing the candidate you actually prefer). But will an act of voting, or even giving money and sending emails and filling stadiums, give us unity or build a movement? Election campaigns, even if we had candidates with substantive and principled positions, may not lend themselves to building the sort of movement that can actually impose the will of the people on elected officials. The single biggest self-organized group of Obama "supporters" on his website was built around the demand that he preserve the Fourth Amendment, and he proceeded to trash it. The Obama movement doesn't exist as a movement, and if voting were any sort of challenge to corporate power, the trains in DC wouldn't be carrying ads from McDonald's urging you to vote.

Our focus should not be on whom we elect but on building a movement powerful enough to impose our will on those we have elected. Rather than whistling and looking away as Congress funded another year of war because the eternal election season was more important, we could have had a bigger impact, both on the world and on the candidates, by exerting massive pressure on Congress to stop funding death and destruction.

But even in the area of non-electoral activism and organizing, the question of "unity" is one that plagues us. It's a question we need to work on. I've met hundreds of people - there's at least one in any crowd - who give me a speech that you'd think,from the near uniformity of it, they'd all purchased off an infomercial. And yet, they didn't. They each thought it up, and they each feel extremely passionately about it. The theme of the speech is that we must all unite, and primarily that all activist organizations must unite. We've reached a point, I think, where we could create a brand new sizable activist organization consisting solely of people whose primary work is haranguing everybody else about the need to unite. But, then, of course we'd have one more organization to add to the list of groups that all need to be united.

I agree that we need to eliminate pointless and counterproductive lack of coordination among groups working toward similar ends. I've spent a great deal of time building coalitions, joining coalitions, and trying to find common ground on single issues among groups that disagree on numerous other issues. And yet I've come to the conclusion that getting every activist group to join with every other one is neither possible nor necessary, and that far more important is getting more people active, getting more money directed into actual people-driven activism, and getting more of our voices into media outlets of various types.

Organizations have human egos and budgets and cliques to overcome. They also have legitimately varied missions, not to mention problematic tax statuses. I've been asked countless times to unite groups that focus on different issues when neither group has any interest in or agreement with the other group's mission. If someone wants to split their time between fighting election fraud and creating health coverage, they can join two groups, but a permanent institutional "unity" of the two groups should not necessarily be our top priority. Sometimes it does make sense to form coalitions and avoid working at cross purposes, and to cross fertilize and educate to build a broader and more coherent movement. We could stand to do a lot more coalition building and we could be a lot better and a lot more selfless at it. But I'm not sure real selflessness is found in the comment one unity promoter recently made to me and a group of allies: "Every one of you has an agenda. I am the only one without an agenda!"

Of course, the institutional core of each coalition inevitably devolves into one group among many, even while resisting ever joining another coalition, because it IS the coalition. And so it goes, and it's the least of our problems. I don't think our failure to all cohere into one single mobilized force is as big an impediment to social change as various other weaknesses, including the problem of astroturf - that is, of pseudo-activist organizations taking their instructions from elected officials rather than the other way around. Astroturf groups don't necessarily need to join a new coalition, but they should radically alter their method of operations or shut down.

Electoral candidates should be figuring out how to reach the masses who do not vote, and Obama has done a little of that. Activists should be figuring out how to reach the masses who sit back and watch TV. The problem is not so much that the directors of organizations can't agree as that there are not enough people active at all. We do need peace groups to work with justice groups and workers' unions to work with environmental groups, and U.S. groups to work with groups abroad. But major mass actions develop through multiple organizations and include the activities of people not forming part of any organization. We need a fundamental change in our culture from one of disengaged observation to one in which we all constantly defend our rights and create our visions. And we are helped in that endeavor by the richness of our civic life, by the variety of groups, and by the ability of people from various backgrounds and organizations to work, not in unity, but in solidarity, recognizing our differences while joining together for the greater good.

In our hands is placed a power greater than their hoarded gold,
Greater than the might of armies, magnified a thousand-fold.
We can bring to birth a new world from the ashes of the old
For the union makes us strong.

Our cry should be for solidarity. We should build alliances. We should share our needs and our strengths. We should include people in a movement that they own, not unify them in a operation that belongs to someone else.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 02:53 PM
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1. K AND R!!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 03:01 PM
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2. I agree with this in spirit, but I freely admit
that I have no clue how to accomplish this concretely, on the ground.

I'm truly the lone wolf of my species. I have literally never found a comfortable "fit" in any group, of any kind. I find people I like, and am able to work with them for a bit, or on something specific, but eventually my comfort level drops to the point that I drift off.

I find common causes, common ground, but when put in a group, I find that I don't fit the talking points, the rhetoric, the mentality. So I don't stay. I fade away.

Perhaps that's actually the point? That it's okay to date a group for awhile, and engage in common interests, but that I don't have to marry them all, lol.

Of course, if everyone were like me, no group would stay together very long.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 03:18 PM
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3. I think that's fine
and that it's more important to make sure that more people like you are actively pushing for peace and justice than it would be to expend any more energy trying to get ANSWER to work with UFPJ or ImpeachBush.org to work with Democrats.com, etc.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 03:57 PM
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4. One of your lines
bothered me. You said "FISA has nothing to do with Clinton supporters' reluctance to fall in line behind Obama."

That is not true. First is the problem with absolutes. FISA may have a small part or a large part, but to say it has nothing to do with Clinton supporter reluctance is silly. For myself, between the obvious end of the primary (before the announcement) and the revelation of Obama's role reversal on the FISA bill, I had put several hours and even some money into his campaign. As the vanguard of his march to the right, the FISA flip has everything to do with my dissatisfaction with his direction. And, for what it is worth, most of us don't want to "fall in line" behind anyone. We want a leader to carry our fight to the nation. He's not a king to be followed. He is the man we chose to represent our values and to make decisions based on progressive ideals.

That aside, I found much of the OP purposeful. One of the problems with the republicans is their desire to get the government out of all good works. They want to promulgate more charities and groups. That way nothing gets done. Separate interest groups, just like charities, are effectively in competition with each other. The Carter Foundation wants money that I may be donating to UNICEF or my local food bank. Sierra Club fights for membership dues with other conservation organizations. As less of the necessary work is done by the government, less work is done because now the neocons have good people "fighting" each other for funds, volunteers, and members. In effect they are doing the right wing's work for them.

As the son of a good union man, I'm a fan of solidarity.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 04:19 PM
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6. i'm with ya
brother
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 06:09 PM
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7. Some of YOUR lines really resonated with me:
"And, for what it is worth, most of us don't want to "fall in line" behind anyone. We want a leader to carry our fight to the nation. He's not a king to be followed. He is the man we chose to represent our values and to make decisions based on progressive ideals."

Although I'd have to say he's the man "you" chose, or "some" chose, because I'm not part of the "we" that chose him.

Still, this is the point that so many don't seem to "get." If we could have solidarity on this one understanding, that we don't follow the nominee, the nominee represents us, we might see the party "unity" that some keep calling for.

That would make a great OP. Or even a sig line. I'm tempted to borrow it.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 06:16 PM
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8. I meant "we" in the solidarity sense
I supported two other candidates before Obama. I said "we" because he is the candidate "we" have. More and more, I think he pulled a fast one on us. But really I think people just wanted a leader so much, they created one in their minds. I'm still planning on voting for him. Just not jumping up and down about it.

Borrow away. I have an OP in the works now on this very thing. There's a reason it's called representational government.

Power to the people.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 06:30 PM
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9. Done! n/t
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f the letter Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 04:17 PM
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5. Amen Mr. Swanson.
Well said.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 10:47 PM
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10. YES YES YES.
I am ready and waiting to put my time and money where my mouth is: more liberal Dems elected to replace the existing power structure. Is it possible to unseat the DLC via the unification of the progressive groups? I certainly hope so.

Tell me more.

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:22 AM
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11. Very timely thoughts, David, at a time when both Dems and Repubs
are facing issues with "unity".
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