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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 04:48 PM
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Jeb Inc.
Edited on Sun Jul-06-08 04:49 PM by seafan
This is one individual who must never be allowed anywhere near the White House.

Jeb Inc.

BRIAN SMITH | Special to the Times (2006)

By Sydney P. Freedberg, Times Staff Writer
July 6, 2008


Entrepreneurial capitalism. Bush is becoming quite an expert on that. In the 18 months since leaving the Florida Governor's Mansion, he has quietly remade himself into a capitalist-entrepreneur extraordinaire. Capitalizing on his eight years as governor and a network of Bush family supporters, he leads a busy, and lucrative, life: global speaking engagements, a new consulting firm and affiliations with three big businesses. He earns hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees and stock and has joined the ranks of private equity executives on Wall Street. And he keeps his hand in politics through five nonprofit organizations that help maintain his profile, champion his favorite causes and keep people wondering: Will Jeb Bush seek public office again?

Bush, 55, is determined to keep his gubernatorial afterlife low key, closely guarding the identities of business partners and clients and refusing to discuss his speaking fees or sponsors.

He declined interview requests, saying in an e-mail that he is "trying hard to stay out of the public eye to let my successor do his thing.''

Through a spokeswoman, he dismissed any suggestion that any of his post-office business activities might create an appearance of a conflict. He issued a brief statement that highlighted his legacy as governor, not his recent entrepreneurial ventures.


While in office, Bush noted that his family finances suffered because of his public service. He left Tallahassee in January 2007 reporting a net worth of $1.3-million.

Despite the dropoff, Bush declined a state pension the only living governor to do so. His spokeswoman, Kristy Campbell, says he opted out because he believed that he should serve the state for eight years and "not make a career out of the office.'' It is "voyeuristic" of the Times to publicize that, she said.


No, ma'am, THIS is voyeuristic:

Oct 5, 2002 | Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, running for reelection in November, has a habit of getting himself in trouble when making statements in front of reporters -- particularly ones he doesn't know are there.

Bush's latest gaffe comes on the heels of the first arrests in the tragic Rilya Wilson case. The child, who turned 6 last month, has been missing from state custody for more than a year, having last been seen at the home of her guardian Geralyn Graham. Graham, who has a long rap sheet for fraud and more than 40 aliases, says a worker from the state's Department of Children and Families picked up the little girl from her home and never returned with her. She and her sister Pamela Graham claimed to be the child's maternal grandmother and grand-aunt, respectively, but turned out to be acquaintances of Rilya's mother. They're now under arrest, along with two of Geralyn Graham's grown children, for allegedly obtaining more than $14,000 worth of state assistance for the girl after she went missing.

News of their arrest prompted Bush to tantalize GOP lawmakers at a Wednesday meeting with what he called "juicy details" about the women -- who he implied were not sisters at all, but rather a lesbian couple.

"As was being arrested," Bush told the Panhandle lawmakers, "she told her co-workers, 'Tell my wife I've been arrested.' The wife is the grandmother, and the aunt is the husband." Bush added gestures, using his fingers to make quotation marks as he emphasized the word "grandmother."

"Bet you don't get that in Pensacola," Bush added for flourish, apparently not realizing that a reporter with Gannett Regional Newspapers of Florida was in the room. His comments were first reported in Wednesday's editions of the Pensacola News-Journal, and soon made the rounds of media across the state.

On Thursday, Joshua Fisher, Pamela Graham's attorney, called the governor's comments "outrageous" and "disgusting."

"He's making jokes when there is still a missing baby here, or doesn't he care?" Fisher said.

Bush's people called his latest gaffe a "nonevent," but it quickly drew the fire of the state's largest gay-and-lesbian advocacy group, Equity Florida, whose executive director, Nadine Smith, called Bush's remarks "childish" and "locker room homophobia." And a spokesman for Democratic gubernatorial nominee Bill McBride remarked that "Floridians would be concerned that Jeb Bush has a different message behind closed doors than what he does in public."


Jim Morin, Miami Herald, 10/9/02

More from the St. Petersburg Times:

When Bush came to the governor's office in January 1999, he reported that he had a net worth of about $2-million, much of it earned in partnership with a friend of his father, Miami real estate developer Armando Codina.


(After leaving office in early 2007): First, Bush renewed the real estate broker's license he first got in 1982. He registered with a firm founded by Jose I. Juncadella, one of South Florida's top commercial brokers. Before Bush became governor, they worked together at Codina's real estate firm.

Next, he founded a consulting company, Jeb Bush & Associates. It doesn't seem to have a Web site, and Bush declines to discuss what it does or identify its clients.

Bush set up a small office in a Miami skyscraper a block from Biscayne Bay. He shares a suite with lawyer and developer M. Ronald Krongold, a golfing friend for 25 years who helped run Bush's successful 1998 campaign.

Armando Codina and Jeb go WAY back:

Jeb Bush in '06 facilitated Office Depot deal for benefit of former business partner, Armando Codina, January 28, 2007

Jeb Bush's former business partner Armando Codina takes $255 Million from FEC stock sale in buyout, that Bush facilitated while he was governor., September 11, 2007


Like many out-of-office politicians, Bush hit the lecture circuit, speaking regularly on topics ranging from the poisonous political atmosphere in Washington to his passion for bold leadership and what he likes to call "BHAG'' (big, hairy, audacious goals).

As a former governor who is the son of one president and brother of another, Bush is in demand. His speaking schedule has carried him from Bonita Springs to Seattle, with at least five speeches outside the country.

"One week he might be in Singapore and the next week in Chile,'' said Al Cardenas, Florida's former GOP chairman. His law office is a stone's throw from Bush's office.


Neither Bush nor the speaker's bureau will discuss his fees, schedule or sponsors. Most sponsors told the Times that Bush's contract bars them from discussing what they paid him.

One sponsor, a large media company in New Delhi, hosted Bush at a conference in October. A year earlier, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani spoke at the same event for $200,000 (including a $40,000 agent's fee).

When Bush delivered a speech about diversity in South Korea in May 2007, his host was Jin Roy Ryu, a longtime family friend and contributor to his father's presidential library. About four months later, a subsidiary of Ryu's company, Poongsan Corp., was awarded a contract of up to $1.1-billion to supply the U.S. Mint with metal used in coins.

Bush says the Mint contract never came up during the trip and he never even knew about it.

Ryu did not respond to e-mail inquiries about how much, if anything, Bush was paid for his appearance.


Like father, like son, perhaps?

The Moon-Bush Cash Conduit


Besides "speechifying,'' as Bush calls it, the ex-governor has landed lucrative roles in corporate America. He works for three big firms, all of which did business with state government during his tenure.

Through Campbell, his spokeswoman, Bush said no company or organization ever got favorable treatment from state government to further his post-office plans. Campbell called the Times' questions about his recent ventures baseless, preposterous and offensive.

Bush's friends say he had his choice of firms and took care to avoid any appearance of a conflict of interest. His first pick: the board of Tenet Healthcare Corp., which wooed him with an initial stock grant valued at $260,000, plus fees and stock totaling $191,581 last year. That was more than any of the other eight non-employee directors received.


Bush said that since joining the board, he has never asked anyone in state government to rule favorably on any matter affecting Tenet.


While he was governor, Tenet's Florida hospitals received about $14-million from the state, much of it from Medicaid, the government health care program for the poor. Its hospitals also ran afoul of regulators in Tallahassee, prosecutors in Washington and lawsuits alleging patient abuse and financial fraud.

In 2005, then-Attorney General Charlie Crist filed a racketeering lawsuit against the firm, accusing it of bilking taxpayers by as much as $1-billion. Crist later settled with Tenet for a nominal $7-million.

Steve Uhlfelder, a Tenet lobbyist and longtime Bush friend, said the former governor never asked regulators to go easy on Tenet.


Bush got a $500 contribution from Tenet in 2001, and the state Republican Party received $108,000 from the company between 1999 and 2006.

He denied campaign contributions ever influenced him, saying the "moral compass'' that guided all of his decisions was his goal to improve the economy, the education system and "the quality of life for our fellow Floridians.''


About two months after joining Tenet, Bush became a consultant to Lehman Brothers and a member of the firm's private equity advisory board, which buys and sells companies worldwide.

The investment bank refuses to comment on Bush's duties or compensation. When the Wall Street Journal learned about it, its Web site called Bush "Lehman's secret weapon.'' Others in the financial media speculated his hiring was part of a lobbying blitz to help the secretive private equity and hedge fund industries head off more regulation and tax increases.


"The private equity business is in many ways about relationships, so being skilled at making connections is basically the way deals get put together,'' Blaydon said. "Being an ex-governor helps, but being part of a family that is a serious player in the world of big money and big oil is even more important.''

While Bush was governor, Lehman Brothers won at least six new contracts and $9.9-million in fees from the two agencies that handle Florida's bond deals and public investments, records show.

Bush denies any conflicts in the awarding of business to Lehman Brothers or other companies that now employ him. He also has denied any role in the sales by Lehman of risky securities to the State Board of Administration, which manages billions of dollars in investments for hundreds of local government agencies in Florida.

The official who supervised the agency was Coleman Stipanovich, brother of J.M. "Mac" Stipanovich, a GOP consultant who ran Bush's unsuccessful gubernatorial campaign in 1994.

Last year, when some school districts and local governments grew alarmed and began withdrawing billions of dollars, the state put a temporary freeze on withdrawals. Coleman Stipanovich was forced out as regulators began investigations that are still ongoing.

Gov Crist asks whether Lehman may have hired Jeb Bush to gain influence to sell bad debt to Florida, May 31, 2008

Forbes: Jeb Bush involvement with Lehman raises questions in Florida investment fund debacle, November 30, 2007


In November, Bush was appointed to the board of another financial services firm, CNL Bancshares, a bank holding company led by real estate developer and major GOP donor James M. Seneff Jr.

"As CNLBank continues its expansion beyond its headquarters in Orlando ... Gov. Bush provides both credibility and visibility to our company throughout the state,'' Seneff said in a statement.


The company declined to discuss Bush's pay. Half of all corporate directors in a recent survey made more than $100,031 a year, according to the Corporate Library, a business watchdog group.

CNL Bancshares is affiliated with a group of Seneff companies forming one of the nation's largest privately held real estate investment and financial services firms.

In 2003, while Bush was governor, his office approved up to $3.1-million in tax refunds to be paid over eight years to CNL Holdings, which is an affiliate of CNLBancshares. The company was to receive the money in return for creating 418 new jobs with an average annual wage of $62,170. Only $181,875 was paid, however, because CNL fell short of its job promises.

A company spokeswoman and Bush said there was no connection between the tax break and Bush's appointment.

All three corporations that now employ Bush say they sought him for his business smarts and knowledge of Florida, not to reward him for past or future actions.


Well, THAT certainly relieves my mind. What about everyone else??


Although Bush does his nonprofit work for free, his five nonprofit organizations have raised millions of dollars. Some of the donors belong to the same network of lobbyists, developers and business executives who helped finance Bush's political aspirations and helped his father and brother reach the White House as well.

The nonprofits champion two of his favorite causes education and ethanol (see chart on Page 12A). They also help the former governor maintain a public profile while legally sidestepping rules designed to limit political influence.

Unlike political candidates, many nonprofits known as 501(c)s for the tax code section that applies to them can accept donations of any amount, from virtually anyone, including foreign sources. They are not required to provide a detailed breakdown of their spending.

They are not required to disclose their donors, either, and two of Bush's don't. But a partial list of donors includes longtime family friends, lobbyists and companies that benefited from state government while he was governor.

For example, his Foundation for Florida's Future received $550,000 in 11 installments from the Villages, a giant retirement community developed by Republican booster H. Gary Morse. Morse's company also donated $100,000 to a nonprofit affiliate led by Bush with a similar name, Foundation for Florida's Future Action Fund. And he has donated more than $800,000 personally and through his businesses to the state Republican Party since 1999.

While he was governor, Bush signed a bill that allowed the Villages' hospital to expand without having to undergo the same costly review as other hospitals.


Legislators give GOP donor exemption for expanding hospital at The Villages, April 23, 2003

Cutting regulation for his buddies is one of Jeb!'s most useful achievements.


Bush's nonprofits provide jobs for several politically savvy staffers, too.

One of them is Patricia Levesque, Bush's former deputy chief of staff for education. She is the executive director of two of Bush's education nonprofits.

She was among seven former Bush aides or political appointees who served on the 25-member Taxation and Budget Reform Commission, a panel that meets every 20 years to propose changes to Florida's tax structure.

Levesque helped push Bush's education agenda during the deliberations of the commission, which ultimately adopted two proposed constitutional amendments that would provide legal protection for private school vouchers.


When its easier to con voters than convince them, June 15, 2008

Jeb Bush's attempt to obliterate FL's church-state separation in November has national ramifications, June 3, 2008

Voucher deception on ballot for November, 2008 (Jeb Bush's devious plans again), May 20, 2008

Jeb Bush allies put pro-voucher plans on ballot (guts constitutional separation of church/state), April 25, 2008

FL House quietly trying to resurrect Jeb's school vouchers in spite of unconstitutionality ruling., May 1, 2007

See, it doesn't matter that Jeb! is out of office. His minions are strategically salted throughout the power structure.


(Kristy) Campbell, who served in Bush's gubernatorial press office, said his nonprofit groups meet all state and federal reporting requirements. She would not say how much she, Levesque or other foundation staffers make. She also denied the groups are being used to keep Bush's political donor base intact or former aides employed.

"Raising student achievement and fostering excellence in education are about as nefarious as our goals get,'' she said.

Yet, increasingly, people who are mulling a campaign for political office set up nonprofits, which pay for travel, staff salaries and other expenses.

"It's pervasive and politicians in both parties do it,'' said Frances R. Hill, a law professor at the University of Miami and director of a group that analyzes money in politics. "There may be legitimate reasons to maintain multiple tax-exempt entities, but my antenna go up when a powerful political figure has this many floating around.''


Indian American Journalist Warns of Possible Jeb Bush '08 Run, June 15, 2007

Jeb Bush is the jackal crouching behind the rocks. He's going to make his move soon., April 9, 2008

Florida will be suffering the pain, destruction and stench of Jeb Bush and his Republican-controlled legislature for years to come.

And isn't it interesting how much effort Jeb Bush and his operatives go to, in order to deny ANY conflicts of interest in his decades of shady business dealings, from before he was governor, while he was governor, and now?

When will more bright lights of justice and accountability finally focus on Jeb Bush?

Thanks to Sydney P. Freedberg at the St. Petersburg Times, for this refreshingly factual reporting.

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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 07:07 PM
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1. So glad the U. Florida refused to allow him to address graduates at their commencement.
Don't go away mad, Bushes.

Just go the hell away.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 07:18 PM
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2. This is good information to keep together just in case....
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 07:49 PM
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:43 PM
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7. Is a fucking pig! I never want to hear of the bushitlers ever again!
Can't they catch some disease and just all die?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:00 PM
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4. That whole family needs to go overseas... the Hague.

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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:52 PM
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9. Cash Cow From Tallahassee....
And you can bet your last dollar that Gov JEB is knee deep in Florida off-shore oil leases. Also wouldn't be surprised to find his fingerprints on the latest U.S. Sugar/Everglades land swap. Lots of fringe benefits in public service.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:34 PM
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35. I'm suspicious about that U.S. Sugar/Everglades land swap...
...don't know why, but it seems too clean for Florida.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:29 PM
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42. I'm there with ya,
first charly says he's engaged then he offers big sugar billions that we don't have to clean up their mess. I'm sitting here waiting for the neil guy to get ignite into the system of fcat. you can thank me later for that knowledge. Peace out.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 10:18 PM
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45. True Mr. Crist is lining up his ducks for something.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:08 PM
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5. Add this stuff in

The Bush dynasty and the Cuban criminals

The Bush family connections go back to 1984 when Jeb Bush began a close association with Camilo Padreda, a former intelligence officer with the Batista dictatorship overthrown by Fidel Castro.

Jeb Bush was then the chairman of the Dade county Republican party and Padreda its finance chairman. Padreda had earlier been indicted on a $500,000 (320,000) embezzlement charge along with a fellow exile, Hernandez Cartaya, but the charges were dropped, reportedly after the CIA stated that Cartaya had worked for them.

Padreda later pleaded guilty to defrauding the housing and urban development department of millions of dollars during the 1980s.

The president's younger brother was also on the payroll in the 80s of the prominent Cuban exile Miguel Recarey, who had earlier assisted the CIA in attempts to assassinate President Castro. . . . Recarey was later charged with massive medicare fraud but fled the US before his trial and is now a fugitive.

After graduating from Texas University, Jeb Bush served a short apprenticeship at the Venezuelan branch of Texas Commerce Bank in Caracas before settling in Miami, in 1980, to work on his father's unsuccessful primary bid against Ronald Reagan. Campaigning for Dad was hardly a paying job. But Jeb was about to learn that being one of George Bush's sons means never having to circulate a rsum.

In the next few years, financial support flowed to Jeb through Miami's right-wing Cuban community. ... Shortly after arriving in Miami, Jeb was hired by Cuban-American developer Armando Codina to work at his Miami development company as an agent leasing office space. A couple of years later, Jeb and Codina became business partners, and in 1985 they purchased an office building in a deal partly financed by a savings and loan that later failed.

The $4.56 million loan, from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida, was granted in such a way that neither Codina's nor Bush's name appeared on the loan papers as the borrowers. A third man, J. Edward Houston, borrowed the $4.56 million from Broward and then re-lent it to the Bush partnership. When federal regulators closed Broward Savings in 1988, they found the loan, which had been secured by the Bush partnership, in default.

As Jeb's father was finishing his second term as vice-president and running for the presidency, federal regulators had two options: to get Jeb Bush and his partner to repay the loan, or to foreclose on their office building. But regulators came up with a third solution. After reappraising the building, regulators decided it wasn't worth as much as was owed for it. The regulators reduced the amount owed by Bush and his partner from $4.56 million to just $500,000. The pair paid that amount and were allowed to keep their office building. Taxpayers picked up the tab for the unpaid $4 million.

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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 02:00 PM
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37. We're long overdue
for a Constitutional amendment forbidding dynastic succession to the presidency.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:26 PM
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6. Not just him, but ANY member of that clan. Or fans, supporters, enthusiasts.....
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 08:46 PM
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8. I actually think this one is dumber than GW--if that is possible.
Although Neil makes them both look like Rhodes scholars. Barbara Bush must have been shootin heroin in her veins throughout her pregnancies because she produced an endless litter of dumb offspring. The fact that Prescott made a bazillion dollars from swapping trade secrets with the Nazis and passed on his secrets of success has been the lifeblood of these overbred morons. They continue the Bush tradition of making a dollar off of someone else's dime and give a whole new meaning to white trash.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 11:52 PM
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11. Mainlining martinis throughout.
Perhaps she didn't figure there was all that much to lose...

I still think they'll try to wangle a way for Jebbie to be vp to McCain, a short term arrangement, FWIW.
(This would require some kind of extreme sympathy scenario.)
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:01 AM
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14. Pretty much sums them up...
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 04:03 AM by Baby Snooks
"They continue the Bush tradition of making a dollar off of someone else's dime and give a whole new meaning to white trash."

Even the patriarch, Samuel Bush, really didn't do that well until he hooked up with the Rockefellers.

As for Prescott he tried the "on my own" for awhile in Columbus before his father-in-law decided his daughter really wasn't meant for poverty and shipped them off to New York and a career in banking. Which is still the preferred business of the Bushes. Private banking that is. Handling other people's money and making a profit off it.

Little is known about Samuel Bush to be honest except he went from pillar of the community to pariah but it is interesting to note that it was the father-in-law rather than the father who set him up in business. Just the same, despite the assumption that the family fortune came from Prescott Bush the reality is that Samuel Bush was quite wealthy. Prescott had two brothers and two sisters. Little is known about them and they rarely are mentioned in biographies. The focus is always on Prescott. But the fascist philosophy of the Bushes is the fascist philosophy of Samuel Bush. Which is why he went from pillar of the community to pariah. The Harriman connection, interestingly, is the result of their relationship with Samuel Bush. Not Herbert Walker. There are lots of missing dots with regard to Prescott Bush. No doubt missing by design.

There are really lots of missing dots with regard to the whole family.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-06-08 10:43 PM
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10. Interactive graphic of his recent business dealings:

I find his South Korea speaking junket last year quite interesting.

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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 12:16 AM
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12. Bet you dollars to donuts...
"It doesn't seem to have a Web site, and Bush declines to discuss what it does or identify its clients."

They're from an oil rich country. Quite frankly, if the entire Bush family tree were wiped out in a freak accident, the world would be a better place. And yeah, NSA, I know you douche bags are reading this, so fuck off.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:14 AM
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18. Heh heh
"And yeah, NSA, I know you douche bags are reading this, so fuck off."

Right on, baby!
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:59 AM
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13. even worse than George
At least George is just a lazy, intellectually un-curious psychopath. Jeb is a hardworking, intellectually astute psychopath.

George only got us into 2 (maybe soon 3) wars. Jeb would destroy the world.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:53 AM
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15. The problem with Jebidiah.... that he, unlike Preznit Fuckstick, is smart. (I guess the Silver Douchebag didn't drink any highballs while he was cooking in her fetid womb). The combination of intelligence and Bushstain family ruthlessness would be deadly for this country. This man should never get within sniffing distance of the White House and he must be tied to his clueless, brain dead brother until both become a rumor in American history.

No Bushes ever again.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:28 PM
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40. "The Silver Douchebag"..have not read a better description of her, anywhere
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 06:58 AM
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16. "one individual who must never be allowed anywhere near the White House" AMEN!
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MaryEllen71 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:08 AM
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17. Don't forget though...
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 07:09 AM by MaryEllen71
That Jeb, unlike dumbya, would not have the support of the fundies/religious right due to Terri Schivao (sp?) and that according to them, didn't do enough to stop her feeding tube from being removed.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:50 AM
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19. I wish Jeb would run with McCain
After they're both roundly defeated, that should do it.

HOWEVER, are there any young Bushes with political aspirations? We can probably safely rule out Barbara and Jenna. But hopefully, as of January '09, we'll be done with this traitorous family forever. We will have a George Herbert Walker funeral to get through within the next decade or so which will bring the family back into the public eye, but more of them in office.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 08:44 AM
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22. There's one that I can think of.
Jeb's oldest child, George P. Bush, undoubtedly has future political aspirations. He's currently working to become a Naval Intelligence Officer, which I believe is just an effort to polish his credentials for a future run for political office, whether that be a Representative, Senator, Governor, or (God forbid!) President. Some info about him here.

The BFEE may slide out of public view on January 20, 2009, but I'm afraid their leave will not be a permanent one. These criminals have spent decades building up ill-gained wealth and political clout, and I don't think they're going to walk away from all of that just because their favorite has son has proven, once again, to be a fuckup.

Keep your eyes on George P. Mark my words, you will see him emerge publicly in 15-20 years. :scared:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:11 AM
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24. Yep, great-granddaddy Prescott's little 32 year-old namesake is next in line.
Subtlety is not their strong suit.

George P. Bush, great granddaddy Prescott's namesake

George P. Bush, President Bush's nephew, smiles from the podium during the first day of the Republican National Convention Monday, Aug. 30, 2004, in New York. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)

George P. Bush Joins Navy Reserve, March 21, 2007

George P. Bush, a nephew of President Bush who was a hit on the campaign trail, has been accepted in the Navy Reserve as an intelligence officer and has begun the process of being commissioned for eight years of service.

Bush, 30, said in a telephone interview from his office at a real estate development firm in Fort Worth, Texas, that he was moved to join the service in part when he attended the rainy commissioning in October of the aircraft carrier named for his grandfather -- the USS George H.W. Bush.

"My grandfather's my hero, and what really sold me on the ultimate decision was having the chance to see the CVN-77 be commissioned under his name," he said. "That was pretty moving, and I had a chance to meet some Navy admirals, as well. I had a chance to talk to them briefly about the opportunity, and I was won over."


There's a lot going on with this dude.

George P. Bush might be a hunkalicious young Republican, but he still seems a bit creepy. So TSG wasn't too surprised to learn that "P" was involved in a troubling 1994 incident described in this Metro-Dade Police Department report. On December 31, 1994, Bush showed up at 4 AM at the Miami home of a former girlfriend. He proceeded to break into the house via the woman's bedroom window, and then began arguing with his ex's father. Bush, then a Rice University student, soon fled the scene. But he returned 20 minutes later to drive his Ford Explorer across the home's front lawn, leaving wide swaths of burned grass in his wake. Young Bush avoided arrest when the victims declined to press charges.

The Smoking Gun

Fourth version, same as the first.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:11 PM
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33. "Declined to press charges" Imagine that.
Guess they knew better than to fuck with the BFEE.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:22 PM
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34. Kind of reminds me of this guy . . .
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:03 AM
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23. Therer's Jeb's son , A Fernando Llamas Type Who Will Carry the Asssault on America Forward.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 10:23 PM
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46. Not if he gets into enough trouble first.
I hope the ladies keep throwing themselves at him and he makes a total ass of himself in public to ruin his chances of taking up the family mantel. I hope he gets fat and ugly with hair growing out his nose and ears and smells like shit. Anything to decrease his chances of successfully running for public office.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 07:53 AM
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20. K & R
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 08:34 AM
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21. When Jeb Bush speaks, people cringe
When Jeb Bush speaks, people cringe

By Joy-Ann Reid, Salon
October 5, 2002


Bush's history of politically unfortunate rhetoric goes back to 1994, when he famously answered a question on the campaign trail by saying he would do "probably nothing" for blacks if elected governor. He lost the race against incumbent Gov. Lawton Chiles by a hair -- and many analysts believe his dismal showing among black voters (he got just 4 percent) was largely to blame.

Since then, Bush has had two other public stumbles, including his response to an impromptu sit-in by two African-American state legislators, state Sen. Kendrick Meek and Rep. Tony Hill, who in 2000 were protesting the implementation of Bush's One Florida plan repealing affirmative action in state contracting and higher education. Irritated by the legislators' refusal to leave his offices following a failed attempt at renegotiating the plan, Bush admonished staff -- within earshot of a television reporter -- to "throw their asses out." Bush's staff later tried to "convince" the reporter not to air the remarks, but they were splashed across the airwaves anyway, forcing the governor to backpedal into a cover story that he was actually referring to the media's asses, not the lawmakers'.

While the latest gaffe certainly isn't a bigger story than, say, the scandalous inability of the state to hold a clean, well-run election, the story does call into question the judgment of the man who wants a second term as governor in a state with sizable minority and gay-and-lesbian populations. Bush's record on social issues isn't exactly stellar: His nominee to head the state's troubled child welfare agency signed onto a treatise calling for more corporal punishment of children and the consignment of women to the home. And the glaring disconnect between his words and the warm and fuzzy image he portrays in public is simply impossible to ignore.

Bush likes to project the image of compassionate conservative in public. His reelection campaign commercials portray him as just "Jeb" -- canoodling with schoolteachers and handing out $160-a-month prescription-drug subsidies to the elderly poor.
But the man who wept in public and pleaded for privacy in the case of his drug-troubled daughter (she was recently caught with crack cocaine at a rehabilitation center) just can't seem to stop making inappropriate, off-color remarks in private. For a man who has made "accountability" a cornerstone of his governorship, Bush's inability to restrain his tongue -- and his refusal to brook criticism for it -- just seems troubling.

And as if he hadn't had enough bad publicity for one day, Bush is now said to have told lawmakers at that same meeting that he has a "devious plan" to kill a proposed bill to mandate reduced class sizes in the state. If voters approve the bill in November, Bush says, it will bust the state budget, and he has made opposing it a platform in his reelection campaign. So what was his "devious plan"? Bush was overheard on the reporter's audiotape saying that if the class size amendment passes, he might offer a second voter initiative with funding -- read tax increases -- attached, so voters will see the full ramifications of their choice. But once again Bush's unfortunate choice of words -- rather than the debate about class size mandates -- became the story.

In his defense, Bush comes from a family that's famous for its curious relationship with the English language. (Remember "Is our children learning?" the nugget from George W. Bush's campaign for president?) But while his brother and father are more famous for a certain unfamiliarity with the rigors of the mother tongue, Jeb's verbal slips tend to reveal a mean-spiritedness that seems less benign.

"It looks like the people of San Francisco are an endangered species, which may not be a bad thing," Bush said during the meeting Wednesday. "That's probably good news for the country.", Jeb Bush, November 13, 2003 (AP story)

Bush has been amused by California before. In mid-August, the topic was Gary Coleman, the former child actor who jumped into the California gubernatorial recall race.

"I'm glad that Gary Coleman lives in California," Bush said. "A guy like me that believes in limited government probably would have a tough time against a fellow like that because he probably symbolizes smaller government."

Coleman took the comment in stride.

"I don't know about Jeb Bush," he said. "But if I become governor, I will represent the little guys, the people that big people tend to step on when they want to get somewhere."

AP, November 13, 2003

After 8 miserable, back-biting years in Florida under Jeb's dictatorship, to say that Jeb is "the smart one" is not accurate.

Jeb isn't smart in the intellectual sense. He hides that shortcoming by fondling a cunning and devious nature.

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 05:01 AM
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48. What Is Up With This Family And Their Barking Duck Lips? n/t
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goose4739 Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 04:15 PM
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52. Barking duck lips
Man, that's too funny and so true...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:34 AM
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25. Jeb Bush, a crime-family made man
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:44 AM
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26. He was truly a horrible man and a horrible governor.
The worst of all the Bush family, if you can believe that. Even Dubya pales in comparison to John E. Bush.

I can never forgive him for selling out the Ichetucknee River to a cement plant in exchange for nearly $200,000 in campaign donations.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:49 AM
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27. a cancer on our republic
the bush family is
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:53 AM
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28. his hands are as bloody as his brother's and father's and grandfathers'

needs to be watched 24/7
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 09:57 AM
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29. A friend of mine had lunch with her statehouse rep(R) last year.
In an unusually frank conversation, he told her how he, and other legislators approached Jeb, hat in hand, begging him to stop looting state trust funds, that were set aside for things like environmental protection, etc. He didn't ask the legislature to do it. He just did it.

He turned them down. This has received absolutely NO coverage in the media.

This legislator wouldn't have been so forthcoming, had he known she would decide to run against him for the State Senate later. She had no plans at the time.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:22 AM
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30. Jeb Bush raided the coffers of dedicated state trust funds to avoid raising taxes.
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 11:42 AM by seafan
These people are nothing but common thieves.

From an interview of Jaimie Ross, Affordable Housing Director of 1000 Friends of Florida, August 30, 2007:

Three years ago, at the height of Fla.'s real estate boom, then-governor Jeb Bush convinced Fla. legislators to raid the Trust Fund, 'capping' monies available for affordable housing programs and funneling additional doc stamp collections into general revenue oblivion. Last year, as Fla.'s housing market collapsed on itself, the legislature refused to remove the cap.


For the past four years, the Sadowski (state and local housing trust fund dollars) have either been diverted for other purposes or simply not fully appropriated.

More than half the monies that are dedicated and available for affordable housing have been left unappropriated---in 2006 alone, the Legislature (due to Leadership) left $507 million in housing monies unappropriated.

These are monies that should have been used to get Floridians into homeownership and rental housing. I believe most legislators understand the problem and most would have voted to fully fund the existing housing programs, but were stopped from doing so by Executive and Legislative Leadership.

(Read: Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and the Republican Raiders)

Who is Donna Arduin?

October 12, 2003

Who exactly is Donna Arduin?

Well, she currently Director of Jeb Bushs Office of Policy and Budget in Florida, who was previously deputy budget director in both New York (under Pataki) and Michigan. She is considered a tough conservative who cuts pork out of budgets so that taxes dont have to be increased, but she is also deemed autocratic by her critics.

As Floridas Budget Director, she is an advocate of supply-side tax policy, and has already come under fire for her economic growth and revenue assessments in Florida, while flacking Jeb Bushs accomplishments. She has also earned the wrath of Florida GOP Senators for a lack of credibility in touting the soundness of Bushs tax and economic policies, with the senators claiming that neither she nor Bush fully and accurately account for the insufficient revenues base Florida has to meet future needs, instead touting how swell things are in the here and now.

She is apparently a party to Bushs refusal to close sales tax exemptions for certain groups in order to fully fund Bushs education reform promises, something which rankles the Florida GOP Senate moderates, who claim that Bush underfunds his education reform program. Ominously, she has a track record already of someone who is more willing to raid special funds and trust fund surpluses to redirect revenues into the general fund to finance deficits, rather than raising taxes.


Note that Jeb Bush was raiding state funds while his brother was illegally invading another country:

Bad timing on trust fund diversions?

March 7, 2003

TALLAHASSEE It's a little like robbing Peter to pay Paul and Mary.

That's the way Gov. Jeb Bush's $54 billion budget proposal to divert more than $1 billion from Florida's Transportation Trust Fund over the next five years has been characterized by many transportation advocates.

While these advocates sympathize with the state's budget crisis, they also feel that the trust fund diversions could not have come at a worse time.

That's because the move may make it harder for Florida's congressional delegation to go after federal gas tax money it says is the state's fair share.


Despite the clouds of an economic downturn and war looming, Bush's budget proposal for fiscal year 2003-2004 includes a $4 billion increase over this year, and he doesn't want to increase taxes to make up for the shortfall, especially after cutting them by $6 billion during his first term.

Instead, Bush hopes to close the budget gap and pay for three very costly constitutional amendments capping the class size, high-speed rail and mandatory pre-kindergarten classes by siphoning some $1.5 billion from 30 Legislature-created, program-specific state trust funds this year.

One of those trust funds is Florida's State Transportation Trust Fund.


"The state is taxing the public for one purpose here and using the money for another," explains Doug Callaway, president of Floridians for Better Transportation. "You have to ask yourself why the state is violating its agreement with the public. There is a principle involved here."


N. Fla. arts groups may lose $2.3M in state money

April 18, 2003

TALLAHASSEE -- About $14.7 million in funding for arts groups across the state -- including up to $2.3 million for 45 North Florida arts groups -- is in jeopardy following a last-minute legislative amendment made by Sen. Daniel Webster (R-Winter Garden).

"For 14 years, arts in Florida have been funded by a piece of the annual corporate filing fee, to keep it from being politicized," said Margot Knight, president and CEO of United Arts of Central Florida.

"But now there is a move to eliminate the Corporations Trust Fund, which throws arts funding back into a year-by-year model."

The 14-year-old trust fund funnels money raised from corporate filing fees to the Cultural Institutions Trust Fund, which funds arts programs.

It's a dedicated fund, which has been interpreted to mean the monies deposited there cannot be used for other purposes.

However, in an effort to balance the state's budget, some lawmakers have backed raiding the state's trust funds.


Webster is not the only high-profile figure in the capitol favoring the change. Gov. Jeb Bush recommends the elimination of the arts fund.


And this is a good place for this little-known information regarding the Enron debacle in Florida, while Jeb occupied the Governor's mansion:

Editorial: Enron subsidiary, 2002

Little did most of us know that when Enron collapsed, it was due in large measure to an ill-fated campaign for control of Florida's drinking water. The name of the Enron water subsidiary is Azurix. Thanks to Florida's open records laws and investigative reporters, we see how close our state in general and Southwest Florida in particular came to being ensnared beyond our friends and neighbors losing their Enron investments. Stories originated by the Sarasota Herald-Tribune and republished by this newspaper last Sunday show how Azurix lost nearly $1 billion trying to win long-term leases to withdraw water from the ground and relax state laws on aquifer storage and recovery (ASR) wells for stormwater runoff and treated sewage effluent. Azurix even offered to help pay for Everglades restoration, in hopes of repayment from the $8 billion state and federal commitment to the project, in return for the exclusive rights to sell the project's newly protected resource. Azurix hired key lobbyists. They include at least one former board member of the South Florida Water Management District James Garner of Fort Myers, who tried in vain to win Lee County's water utilities contract for Azurix and at least one former district executive director, John Wodraska. The water district includes Collier and Lee counties. Azurix enjoyed enthusiastic support from David Struhs, Gov. Jeb Bush's chief of the Department of Environmental Protection. Struhs, who worked with Enron CEO Kenneth Lay in the administration of President George W. Bush's father, championed water privatization at a Florida Chamber of Commerce seminar on Marco Island in July 2000.

Copyright 2002 Naples News All rights reserved.

Dead in the Water: Enron's grab for Florida's water was factor in collapse. 2002

While Jeb Bush was running for Florida's governor in the summer of 1998, Enron Corp., a fast-growing Houston energy broker, was diversifying into a potentially lucrative new field privatization of water supplies. Even as Bush's secretary for the Department of Environmental Protection was settling into his office in February 1999, top executives of Enron's new water venture, Azurix Corp., were seeking audiences with the new governor and his DEP chief David Struhs. Although Bush generally kept his distance from Azurix, his man Struhs stood on the sidelines like a cheerleader throughout Enron-Azurix's unsuccessful two-year attempt to privatize Florida's water market. Struhs promoted two ideas near and dear to Azurix: auctioning off blocks of water to the highest bidder, and boosting underground water and storing it there for later withdrawal, a process called aquifer storage and recovery, or ASR. By May 2001, as Enron was getting ready to junk Azurix and sell it for its parts, Struhs cooled on ASR, citing concerns by environmentalists and legislators. Enron's attempt to duplicate its success in energy brokerage with a free-market approach to water resulted in $900 million in Azurix debt a factor in Enron's decision to seek protection from creditors in bankruptcy court.

Copyright 2002 Herald Tribune All rights reserved.

PHOTO: Ken Lay presents former President George H. Bush with a silver platter at a luncheon in his honor as his sons, George W. Bush and Jeb Bush on the right, at the Hyatt Regency Window Box/Ballroom for a Community Partners event, in 1997. (Houston Chronicle/John Everett).

A silver platter. And Florida was on it.

Lovely, isn't it?

Florida Retirement System loses $328 million after Enron collapse (Jeb Bush, trustee), March 3, 2002

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:58 AM
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31. Bookmarking for ammunition in case Jeb Corleone Bush gets any funny ideas in 2011.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:06 PM
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32. "Veto Corleone" Bush is not done yet. Stealth school voucher amendments on November ballot.
It's only the tip of the iceberg with "Veto Corleone" Bush., December 2, 2007

June 26, 2005

"DON" JEB BUSH: Here's another sign that Gov. Jeb Bush is anything but a lame duck: He has quietly set a personal record for legislative vetoes.

As of Friday, the man some call "Veto Corleone" vetoed 34 bills, equal to a tenth of the 348 bills that passed the 2005 Legislature.

In 2003 and 2004, Bush vetoed 22 bills each year. The 2005 total could increase before the July 6 deadline. Several bills are pending.

(Jeb Bush) declined interview requests, saying in an e-mail that he is "trying hard to stay out of the public eye to let my successor do his thing.'', July, 2008, Jeb Bush keeps a high-impact low profile

Apt title.

Rest assured that termites are voracious, even though they are out of sight.

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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 01:35 PM
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36. An entire family of walking bovine shit.

Top, L to R: Mr. Security, Muleboy the Fixer (w. son Damien), Daddy Grand Cyclops, The Failure Fuhrer, The Joker.

Bottom, L to R: The Student (w. daughter Mugshot McXanax), The Question Mark, The Womb of Doom, The Silverado Kid.

The sooner this scourge of a family (with the possible exception of Dorothy, who doesn't seem to be as evil as the rest of that family) returns to the lava from which they were shat out of, the better off humanity will be.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:38 PM
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44. Jon Heder, Kewpie Doll, Puppet Master, Neanderthal Charles Grodin, Mat
Customs Jumper, Doro, Quaker Oats, Victor Delta!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:38 PM
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38. never will happen. they can put as much lipstick on this idiot as they want
but the (ugh, I hate even saying the name) bush* name is officially shit now.
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debunkthelies Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:01 PM
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39. Remember the hurricanes in Florida
Wonder what happened to the majority of the millions sent to Florida for aid to the people who lost their homes. I know there was some news about people getting money who were not even in the hurricane path, but that story died quickly.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:37 PM
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43. You remember correctly. Thanks to heckuvajob Brownie and a helpful Jeb and George W. Bush.
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 05:39 PM by seafan
Audit scolds FEMA over payments

By Megan O'Matz and Sally Kestin | Sun-Sentinel
May 14, 2005

Miami-Dade County residents collected Hurricane Frances aid for belongings they didn't own, temporary housing they never requested and cars worth far less than the government paid, according to a federal audit that questions millions in storm payouts.
The review found waste and poor controls in every level of the Federal Emergency Management Agency's assistance program and challenges the designation of Miami-Dade as a disaster area when the county "did not incur any hurricane force winds, tornados or other adverse weather conditions that would cause widespread damage."

And who did the declarin'? Why George W. Bush.

As a result of the declaration, "millions of individuals and households became eligible to apply for , straining FEMA's limited inspection resources to verify damages and making the program more susceptible to potential fraud, waste and abuse," the report states.
Though the study was confined to Miami-Dade County, it concludes that the agency's problematic practices "cast doubt about the appropriateness" of awards elsewhere in the state, "particularly those counties that had only marginal damage."

Conducted by the Inspector General's Office of the Department of Homeland Security, the audit shows that in Miami-Dade FEMA distributed:

$8.2 million in rental assistance to 4,308 applicants in the county who "did not indicate a need for shelter" when they registered for help. In 60 cases reviewed by auditors, inspectors deemed homes unsafe without explanation, and applicants never moved out.

$720,403 to 228 people for belongings based on their word alone.

$192,592 for generators, air purifiers, wet/dry vacuum cleaners, chainsaws and other items without proof that they were needed to deal with the hurricane. Three applicants got generators for their homes, plus rental assistance from FEMA to live somewhere else.

$15,743 for three funerals without sufficient documentation that the deaths were due to the hurricane.

$46,464 to 64 residents for temporary housing even though they had homeowners insurance. FEMA funds cannot be used when costs are covered by insurance.

$17,424 in rental assistance to 24 people who reported that their homes were not damaged.

$97,500 for 15 automobiles with a "blue book" value of $56,140. In general, the report states that FEMA approved claims for damaged vehicles without properly verifying that the losses were caused by the storm.

The 60-page report, obtained by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel Friday, confirms a number of the findings in an ongoing investigation by the newspaper into FEMA's disaster aid program. The newspaper first reported in October that FEM was awarding millions of dollars to Miami-Dade residents even though the Labor Day weekend storm made landfall more than 100 miles to the north and local officials knew of no serious damage.

The paper found that FEM paid for thousands of televisions, appliances and rooms full of furniture in Miami-Dade and that the agency covered the expenses of 315 funerals statewide, even though Florida's medical examiners attributed only 123 deaths to the four hurricanes.

Michael D. Brown, FE MA's director, said Friday that although some fraud and abuse is evident in all disasters he was pleased with the audit's findings of "nothing widespread."


The scope of the audit was limited to whether FEM had enough evidence to declare Miami-Dade a disaster area and whether the agency had the proper controls in place to ensure that money only went to eligible applicants and for verified expenses. "Our review ... disclosed shortcomings in both areas," the report states.

Keep in mind that these hurricanes were in the early fall of 2004. And wonder of wonders, there was a presidential election coming up in November.

So, before Hurricanes Frances and Jean hit Florida, over one hundred miles north of Miami-Dade, George W. Bush designated Florida as a major disaster area. Bring on the FEMA money, boys. Especially to Miami-Dade, where there were no hurricane winds.

There's an ELECTION a-coming', smirk, smirk.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:35 PM
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41. If any of the Bush Minions are allowed anywhere near the White House again, that
would definitely ensure the downfall of this nation, if not the destruction of the entire planet.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 04:41 AM
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47. Amen to that....
the thing is, Poppy Bush had high hopes for Jebbie. He was, after all, the smarter and more skilled politician in the family. But then "W" happened.
I think (and hope against hope) that the Bush "dynasty" has come to an end. This country cannot survive another Bush, if indeed we can survive the present one.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:12 AM
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49. Has a reporter ever publically asked Bush** about his grandfather Prescott
trying to overthrow FDR?

I mean MY GOD! Even 'Murkins might raise and eyebrow to that!

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:31 AM
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50. BBC program that reveals the attempted right-wing coup in USA in 1933 is a MUST LISTEN:

The Whitehouse Coup
Monday 23 July 2007

Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen.

The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bushs Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.

Here is an old thread about it.

IMHO, if the American people learned of this event in our history, it would finally expose and blow the doors off the origin of the corporatist thievery and war profiteering led by descendants and associates of Prescott Bush, leading directly to the political and socioeconomic strangulation of our country's foundation today. People know now that *something* is horribly wrong in our country.

A listen to this program will open their eyes like no other.

And the answer would become clear, that we must completely repudiate the corporations' control over the infrastructure of our government and its ruthless, war-mongering control over our foreign policy.

President Eisenhower warned us in 1961:

Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961


We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these involved our own country. Despite these holocausts America is today the strongest, the most influential and most productive nation in the world. Understandably proud of this pre-eminence, we yet realize that America's leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.


Throughout America's adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep the peace; to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity among people and among nations. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people. Any failure traceable to arrogance, or our lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice would inflict upon us grievous hurt both at home and abroad.



A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:40 AM
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51. Unfortunately, Joe and Jane Six Pack rarely tune in to the BBC..
Sad that the only real news about our government comes from overseas.
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