If Trollop McCain's drug problem is "off the table", what is "on the table"?

[ColbertWatcher]

Another thread asked if the candidates wives are fair game.

I'd like to ask what about her is on the table?

Her family's corporate jet has given Admiral McCombover free rides all over the country. This should be on the table because she hasn't released her tax returns.

In a related note, how much money does she make? How much has she/will she benefit from the GOP tax cuts?

Personally, I don't think the spouses are off the table, but we do have to be careful which details we demand be made part of the campaign. (Please see this post for a very good argument why we shouldn't)

[Orsino]

1. Our health, happiness and money.

Our ruling class' usual fare. They will dine well this year.

[spanone]

2. if hillary had won the nomination, do you think bill would have been 'off the table?'?

???

has michelle obama been 'off the table'?

let's get real

[ColbertWatcher]

7. Beautifully put! n/t

[LiberalFighter]

3. If it would effect the ability of the candidate to perform the duties of President... YES

Her previous addiction should not have an effect on McCain performing the duties if he became President.

There may be other factors about his wife that would be material.

[ColbertWatcher]

Her observations about his personal hygiene does seem to make him angry. n/t

[havocmom]

63. If Pain-killer McCain pulls any criminal stunts re drugs again, her husband, were he president...

could pardon her. THAT would have an effect on his duties as President.


Hey, hon, you got this swell job party through use of my corporate jet lent to your campaign, by loophole you put into campaign reform bill- whadda hoot THAT was, huh? And I got your foot in the door of all those rich people so you could schmooze and get lots of donations all your political career... You OWE me some pardons, buster boy! Laws are for the little people without puppet pardon granters in high places.


Oh, criminal activities of those near the candidates is definitely worthy of consideration and discussion

[eleny]

4. Perhaps to the extent that they put Michelle on the dissecting table?

Among the issues are - her statements, clothing, employment and attitude.

[ColbertWatcher]

12. Her clothing!? LOL! I like the way you think! n/t

[eleny]

17. Remember how they commented on Michelle's sleeveless dresses?

They were acting like that was inappropriate for the candidate's spouse.

[ColbertWatcher]

23. Sorry--I think I missed that one. n/t

[eleny]

43. Yeah, they tried to make it a big deal

Then it was mentioned on The View how that style is becoming vogue because of Michelle and I haven't heard a negative peep about it since. :D

[ColbertWatcher]

46. That won't stop the GOP-controlled media from bringing it up later on. n/t

[eleny]

50. And that's exactly why I included it in my list

:D

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

54. Supposedly the dress (and it was very sheik) was flying off the racks

at the store where it was being sold.

[eleny]

58. Yeah. I'd never heard of the store so I visited the web site

Nice dresses! I can see them doing a rousing business with such cute styles. Oh, to be young again with toned arms! :D

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

62. lol on the toned arms! I need sleeves down to my fingernails!!!!

:rofl:

[eleny]

64. Same here!

And those dresses at that store are retro to my era - the late '50s, the '60s & early '70s. How I enjoyed wearing sleeveless - good memories.

Sewing was fun back then, too. It didn't take much fabric to run up a mini dress on mom's Singer.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

73. They're retro in my eyes as well. :) I was born in '51 and so I can safely guess we

are around the same age. I used to sew on my mom's Singer too! I loved to sew halter tops dresses, which took no time. I was also into peasant blouses and created a few of them. They had sleeves but I was able to wear them much higher than I do now! :)

[Virginia Dare]

66. Yes, we know Miss Cindy is always demure, a regular Hester Prynne..

[ColbertWatcher]

69. What is with her fivehead? n/t

[Johonny]

5. I don't remember Kitty Dukakis problems being off the table

and that was the days before the peak ugliness of talk radio smearing.

[The Blue Flower]

14. BINGO

It was not.

[Nye Bevan]

6. She stole from a charity to feed her drug addiction

Probably a little unseemly for the Obama campaign to bring up, but I would not hesitate to mention this to people who criticize Michelle.

[ColbertWatcher]

10. Didn't Obama once say about Wright...

...that he does not necessarily share the views of everyone who supports him?

I think that gives you a pass so to speak.

[Vanje]

21. And McCain himself, rallied his big wigs

....to ruin the career of the whistle-blower.

Mrs. McCain's employee probably saved her life, by bringing her drug use to light.
Despite that, His career was ruined. McCain called in his legal big hats to accuse the whistle blower of extortion, when he sued for wrongful termination.

[librechik]

8. I think Mrs. McCain's yeoman financial and material support for the candidate

puts her in a separate category. She's not separate and independent and not connected to the mechanics of the campaign, like Michelle. She is a top executive, as it were, of McCain's campign. Those aspects of her role should be on the table and vigorously criticized.

Personal stuff of spouses on both sides should be avoided (not in favor of blasting her for her record on drug abuse--although if McCain were the druggie he should be--destructive personal habits of the candidates should be on the table, like Obama's smoking for example.)

[ColbertWatcher]

16. What about McCain's addiction to lobbyists? n/t

[librechik]

18. He should see a sex addiction counselor--one way or another

he's doing the nasty with those folks way too often

[grantcart]

9. I think we agreed that her admitted short term memory loss was off the table

but I have a hard time remembering for sure.

[AlCzervik]

11. What is off the table for Michelle Obama from the rightwing?

i'm guessing nothing.

[ColbertWatcher]

15. So little is known about her...

...who knows to what extent she influences him.

She is after all a business woman, and she's still got all her faculties.

Perhaps we should be asking why his campaign is keeping her influence so secret.

Americans deserve to know who is running this campaign.

The elderly former POW, or his business woman-wife/Lady Macbeth.

it is important that we know everything she is trying to hide.

[Virginia Dare]

29. Well, we already know that she hates white people..

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[ColbertWatcher]

45. I believe the story that Michelle said "whitey" came from...

..this web page.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[AlCzervik]

51. you know what's funny, the only person i've heard using that term is a poster in gdp

it has referred to me and a few other posters as "whitey". nice, right?

[tom_paine]

20. You guess correct. Nothing. n/t

[tularetom]

13. Not saying it should be "on the table" but why tell them it's "off the table"?

Best to keep them guessing. Say just enough about it to let them know you are aware of it and could stress it if the occasion demanded it (like if the swift boat asswipes re emerge or attacks on Michelle Obama begin to appear).

If they know it won't be brought up they will feel free to attack our candidate and his family without being afraid of retaliation.

I'm almost sure Obama doesn't think it's "off the table" even though he'd never say that out loud. His background is in Chicago politics after all.

[tom_paine]

19. Every Democratic Presidential Candidate's spouse has been on the table for three decades.

But double-standards in politics and media are this way in ALL totalitarian nations, not just Amerika.

Sigh.

[AndyTiedye]

22. Everything is Off the Table When Discussing Repiglickins, Thus Sayeth the MSM

Everything is fair game if you're a Democrat though.

[ColbertWatcher]

25. Especially for a guy who is so cozy with the GOP-controlled media. n/t

[Initech]

24. Her cookie recipe.

[DefenseLawyer]

26. The fact that she is Queen of the Lizard People is off the table.

For now....

[Bluebear]

27. *EVERYTHING* is on the table this time. She steals drugs AND cookie recipes!

Anybody who would enable another Republican voted into office. Including Cindy McCain who started things off by criticizing Michelle Obama.

[Virginia Dare]

31. She steals husbands too, apparently...

I'm sensing a common theme here.

[Bluebear]

33. Stop! Thief!

[ColbertWatcher]

34. Damn! Does she have stock in Photoshop!? /t

[malaise]

36. New name

Klepto Cindy!!

[GammaRay]

28. Must. Keep. Powder..... DRY

[Bluebear]

30. LOL welcome to DU

[damntexdem]

32. I'm not sure what's on the table; but it's white, and there are several lines of it.

And Cindy has a lot of dollars to roll up and use as nose straws. ;-)

[malaise]

35. The only thing on the table is to attack

the Obama family. That's the M$M plan anyway.
Cindy McSame is fair game, particularly those good family values like having an affair with another woman's husband.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

37. I don't think it should be on the table. We're better than that.

We shouldn't bring up that Cindy McCain is a Paris Hilton style multi-millionaire heiress who is so cheap she steals from charities. That's tacky.

Nudge. Nudge. Wink. Wink.

[Bluebear]

38. I would NEVER mention that she steals drugs from charities.

Or that she steals husbands. And cookie recipes. After all! :)

[leftofthedial]

39. you are SO WRONG!!

Everyone knows she's a c**t, not a trollop. Just as John.

[bunkerbuster1]

42. yebbut...

You can't really call the campaign plane "C**t One."

[ColbertWatcher]

44. Excuse me, sir!

According to this video tape of the incident, Admiral McCombover clearly called her a both a trollop and a cunt.

It is my assertion that her cuntiness does not supercede her trollopishness.

But, it is you anti-trollop/pro-cunt people who do the American people (and the national discourse) a great disservice by ignoring the half of her heritage that you see as somehow beneath that of her heri-cunt-age.

Have we in this cuntry not evolved past these petty disagreements?

I demand you retract your anti-trollop comments immediately.

[leftofthedial]

72. I stand corrected.

just doing my best to keep it c**try. My Nashville publisher would be proud.

[bunkerbuster1]

40. why, the ISSUES, of course! We'll win by sticking to the ISSUES!

When the voting public realizes what geniuses we are, and how stupid they've been, they'll naturally gravitate to our way of thinking.

What need would we have for cheap shots and rhetorical trickery?

[SoCalDem]

41. Kittens they have rescued

Straight-A report cards of the kids
Heroic military service of all male family members
Pictures of the family . barbequing for their pals in the press
Cindy's lovely wardrobe of flourescent-colored leather jackets
Perhaps a tour of the "make-up" rooms in the house (that much make up has to require a lot of space...perhaps even a walk-in mascara closet)

[KamaAina]

47. Of course she's off the table.

She's on the floor. :evilgrin:

[Bluebear]

48. :)

[Igel]

49. She and her background are on the table to the extent she campaigns for McCain,

to the extent her background's relevant to the campaign, and to the extent she influences McCain.

Michelle's sleevelessness was below the belt; the MSM seemed to engage in that act of puffery, not "Cindy" (IIRC, that's her name, it doesn't matter to me).

But her drug dependency was known and is known. So's Obama's drug usage. Which is more important--his usage, of which we only know what he's admitted in what amounts to a semi-fictionalized autobiography, or her dependency? If we raise the spectre of her dependency, isn't questioning his prior usage fair?

Questioning details about her that aren't relevant, doesn't that legitimize questioning irrelevant details about Michelle?

Or do we so love the "old" politics that we want to play it in Obama's name?

Serious questions. Don't see any politically popular answers.

[ColbertWatcher]

55. Questioning details about her that aren't relevant,

That's a good point.

But, you know full well we no one outside the GOP has control of what issues their media discuss and how they frame them.

What do you think is the most effective way to combat that tactic?

Will enough phone calls to the network to shut down their phone system do it?

Will enough hits on their website to crash their servers be enough?

Will enough letters showing the amount of money their sponsors will lose be enough?

Taking the high rode is invisible.

We may feel good, but it is likely we'd feel good as the tactic continues.

[sourmilk]

52. Admiral McCombover? I love it. Wasn't that his father, tho?

It's CAPTAIN McCombover that is running for Prez.

[ColbertWatcher]

56. I prefer Admiral.

His dad was an Admiral, his grandfather was an Admiral, but he never made it to that rank.

Hell, he didn't even go to law school to learn more about legislating/lawmaking.

To call him Admiral is to remind him what he isn't.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

53. The money stuff is relevant.

If she's using her money to help him and not following campaign finance laws, that is a major issue and definitely on the table.

[ColbertWatcher]

57. Plus, the filthy rich aren't going to be very popular, no matter the price of gas...

...people will still be without jobs, their homes, etc.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

59. Yep.

The halo of the wealthy has become tarnished. They've been riding on the bootstraps myth since Raygun and keeping us peasants mollified by throwing trinkets and cheap credit at us these past few years. The jig is up and they can call Obama "elitist" all they want, everyone knows who the real elitists are now.

[ColbertWatcher]

60. Karl Rove said he was "country club elitist"! LOL! n/t

[mrreowwr_kittty]

61. I know! That remark was stupid on so many levels. Karl is really slipping. nt

[Virginia Dare]

65. Or maybe we're just on to his shell game now....n/t

[Virginia Dare]

67. Awesome photoshop here..

[ColbertWatcher]

68. LOL! Good job! Is it yours!? n/t

[Virginia Dare]

70. No I lifted it..

google cindy mccain marie, and you'll find it.

[ColbertWatcher]

71. Thank you. n/t