I wonder how stupid Nancy Pelosi feels about taking impeachment "off the table" nowadays...

[derby378]

...now that Scottie McClellan is biting the hand that fed him for so long.

[salguine]

1. Nancy needs to be kicked to the curb, too.

[derby378]

3. I hope Shirley Golub pastes her in the primary

Go, Shirley! :applause:

[clixtox]

14. I recently sent $25 to Shirley Golub...

as an investment in our constitution.

Look for Shirley Golub's website at <shirley08.com> and make a small contribution to show Nancy how you feel!

I wouldn't be very surprised if Pelosi loses in the primary, June 3rd, SF and Marin counties are way more progressive than Pelosi.

Pelosi doesn't show up in San Francisco very much to campaign, she is apparently just hoping to coast back into office.

Personal appearances in public by Nancy in her own district would likely be an embarrassment due to angry demonstrators and provocative, persuasive, street theater.

[RedCappedBandit]

2. Kind of funny how its up to the government to impeach government officials..

yay "democracy"

[pacalo]

4. Her political legacy will be that she didn't do her job. She ignored the will of the people.

[Richardo]

16. She ignored the will of DU, not 'the people'.

Show me any recent polling data that says the majority of Americans favor impeachment.

[BR_Parkway]

20. I don't know how to paste the pictures, but here's just a few of the

hundreds of links that show up on a Google search for Impeachment Poll - some as high as 89% in favor of and some go back to Jan 2006 - that's how long she's been ignoring all of us.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/

http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070706195925.rdm9h3ci&show_article=1

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_arg_pardonimpeachment.php

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/4421

[Hissyspit]

21. Here are the numbers and the polling history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_to_impeach_George_W._Bush

2005 polls

In October 2005, an anti-Iraq war organization, After Downing Street, commissioned a poll by the independent Ipsos Public Affairs Research,<129> which found that by a margin of 50 percent to 44 percent Americans say that President Bush should be impeached if he lied about the war in Iraq.<130> A Zogby International poll from October 29 to November 2, 2005 confirmed this result by a margin of 53 percent to 42 percent. This was supported by 76 percent of Democrats, 50 percent of Independents, and 29 percent of Republicans.

A lone protester in Boston urges rush hour drivers to 'honk' in support of the impeachment of President George W. Bush on September 28, 2007.
On December 15, 2005, Rasmussen Reports released a poll that showed that 32 percent of the 1,000 Americans polled would support an impeachment of Bush and 35 percent would support an impeachment of Cheney.<131>

2006 polls

A March 16, 2006 poll by American Research Group showed that 42 percent of American adults favored impeaching Bush, with 49 percent opposed.<132><133>
A May 18, 2006 poll by Fox News/Opinion Dynamics showed 30 percent supported impeaching over the Iraq war and weapons of mass destruction, while 62 percent did not and 7 percent were unsure. <6>
A September 2, 2006 poll conducted by CNN/Opinion Research Corp. indicated that 30 percent of the American people supported impeachment, and 69 percent were opposed.<134>
An October 2006 Newsweek poll found support for the impeachment of President Bush as follows: 28 percent felt that impeachment should be a "top priority", 23 percent a "lower priority", and 44 percent that it should not be done.<135>

2007 polls

According to Angus Reid, an InsiderAdvantage poll around May 1, 2007, found 39 percent of American voters to favor impeaching both Bush and Cheney, and 55 percent opposed.<136> Analyzing these numbers, Bob Barr, who initiated the Clinton impeachment hearings, said that "this indicates the surprising depth of dissatisfaction with Bush."<137>
On July 6, 2007, a telephone poll conducted by the American Research Group found that 45 percent of American adults favored the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against Bush, with 46 percent opposing the proceedings.<138> In the same poll, 54 percent wanted impeachment proceedings against Cheney, and 40 percent were opposed.<139>
In another July 2007 pool by USA Today/Gallup, 36% of Americans felt there was justification for congress to begin impeachment proceedings against the President, while 62% felt that there was no justification <140>
A November 13, 2007 nationwide poll by American Research Group found 34% of all voters agreeing that "President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution and he should be impeached and removed from office", distributed among 50% of Democrats, 18% of Republicans and 34% of independents. 43% of all voters nationwide agreed Dick Cheney has abused his powers as vice president to the level of impeachable offenses and he should be impeached and removed from office.<141><142>

[youngharry]

23. Gallup Polls

I find it very interesting that in the last couple of years, Gallup Polls have always favored Bush by under-reporting the number of Americans that would impeach Bush. In addition, moreover, they were the ones with the outrageous poll recently, indicating that Hillary was stronger than Obama in the national ratings, thus it validated Hillary's claim that she was the strongest candidate from the Democrats to be the President nominee.

THE ONLY CONCLUSION: GALLUP POLLS ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR TO GIVE THE RESULTS THE BUYER WANTS.

GALLUP POLLS ARE FRAUDULENT.

[lastliberalintexas]

5. She feels just fine

Unfortunately. Maybe one of these days we'll have an actual opposition party in this country. Oh yeah, when a Dem wins the White House...

[liberalmuse]

6. What is really sad is...

I received a letter (okay, it was a spam) from Al Gore about how we must fight to keep the Democrats in power and give to the cause. Then I realized, they ARE somewhat in power in the Senate (not a real majority, mind you, but FUCK, what else do you need???), and yet they've done jack shit these past few years. Nancy Pelosi is just like all the rest. It seems if you are in D.C. long enough, you will be covered in the stench of corruption and non-complacency. It's so disappointing when you can't even keep up with the cynicism.

[AndyTiedye]

7. There Isn't Any Table. The Repigs are Making Us Eat Off the Floor

[hendo]

8. impeachment is a dangerous weapon to wield

same with allowing Bush to be tried under the International Court. They set a bad precedent.

[magellan]

9. And allowing criminals and murderers to operate from our WH for 8 years

...and then walk away doesn't??

[gratuitous]

18. Speaking of bad precedents . . .

Letting war crimes and crimes against humanity go uninvestigated and unpunished is a very bad precedent.

[JackRiddler]

26. That precedent has been established many times...

Probably with no greater drama than in 1993, by the incoming Clinton admin's killing of any effort to get disclosure and justice for the vast Bush-Reagan Iran/Contra CIA-drugs S&L plunder crime complex.

The second Bush mob administration is a direct consequence of the Crime Pays apologia given to the first by Bill Clinton, the good friend of Papa Bush.

[Golden Raisin]

10. Pelosi is the Queen of everything that

is wrong with that insulated band of courtiers inside the Beltway.

[bean fidhleir]

11. She doesn't feel bad at all. Why would she? You're making the mistake of thinking

she on our side. She's not!

[Blarch]

12. She should be charged and jailed.

She is covering up war crimes ...she is protecting a war criminal.

Her actions border on treason. I have a deep hate for that lady.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

15. I couldn't agree with you more. ....n/t

[Echo In Light]

13. Many, irrespective of how they "feel" about it, will ensure duties of their job/institutional role

In my estimation, by insisting upon the "impeachment OFF the table" mantra from the get go, this is precisely what she was doing: fulfilling her institutional obligation to serve and protect power.

[Romulox]

17. She's willing to stand up to Democratic voters in Michigan and Florida, but not Repubs in Washington

:wtf:

[ProfessorGAC]

19. A Question About That

Not on topic, but related to your post:

How do you know the will of the voters in MI and FL? How many people didn't bother to vote because their preference wasn't on the ballot? How many folks went to vote and simply voted for the only name there, but might have voted otherwise had choices been provided?

I'm confused as to how we know what the will of those states' voters is.
The Professor

[robinlynne]

22. I don't think the Democratic voters have anything to do with it. She's standing up to

some central party wackos.

[wryter2000]

24. Let's remember when she said it

She said it during the 2006 election campaign. At that point. impeachment would either leave Cheney President or (if she also impeached Cheney) would have made her President. It would have been a huge mistake to make it look as if she wanted to make herself President during the election that would make her Speaker. Really, really, really stupid move if she hadn't said that she wasn't running to make herself President.

Also, the Repugs were running around "this election is about impeaching the President. Elect me, or they'll impeach the President!" Again, she needed to make it absolutely, positively clear that we weren't running to impeach Bush/Cheney.

And, let's also remember that she doesn't make that call, anyway. John Conyers does. So, whether or not Pelosi wants to impeach means nothing.

[JackRiddler]

27. Wow, what a load.

Pelosi and the brass put pressure on Conyers not to proceed, and now you're washing their hands for them and saying that after all it was Conyers' decision.

In the interests of full disclosure: Do you work for a campaign, party body or politician? I do not.

[wryter2000]

28. No, I don't work for any politician

Do you have proof she told Conyers to back off? That's the first I've heard.

I'd also like to know when you believe she made the "off the table" remark. I only heard it the one time during the 2006 election. IMHO, it would be the height of stupidity to announce that she planned to make herself President during an election cycle.

[JackRiddler]

29. No, you start.

Do you have any proof that Conyers made the decision? Or that he's the only one that can do it?

I remember clearly Kucinich introduced articles to impeach Cheney, and the Democratic leadership scrambled to kill it. Republicans voted for it, because they knew Democrats would find this simple act of doing justice in the face of criminal government "embarrassing."

So clearly, Kucinich's example shows you don't have to be Conyers to proceed with impeachment.

And who made the decision to kill K's initiative? A collective. Led by Pelosi.

[formercia]

25. Sense of decorum

This is no cream puff tea party, Nancy. People are dying every hour because of those assholes. This country is bleeding to death and Nancy is acting like some squeamish valley gurl.

In Iraq, the Finishing School is in places like Falluja and not everyone gets to graduate.