Did anyone think that $4.00 gas would be the end and then prices would fall back?

[Stinky The Clown]

Hahahahahahaha

You ain't BEGUN to get fucked yet.

Bend over.

Young people .... forget living in your own house. Buy a tent. I'd say a car, but you can't afford to drive it to a parking lot.

Boomers? One word for you: Alpo.

And yet, The American Moron is going on vacation - most in their fucking SUVs - this weekend at a rate a mere 1% lower than last year.

Alpo in a tent. The family meal of the new millennium.

[Horse with no Name]

1. The gas prices are the topic of just about any substantial conversation I have had lately

This is affecting the upper middles as well as the lower middles about equally.
Our town Doc has parked his Hummer because he says he can't afford the gas.
I believe it is going to be a long hot summer.
Something is going to have to give...but what I see happening is what they have done all along.
Conditioning us to the prices. Raise it .20 and lower it .10...rinse and repeat until we are conditioned to think we are getting a bargain at $4 a gallon.

[Phoonzang]

2. Why are you so happy about it?

That's the problem I have with peak oilers...they want civilization to collapse.

[Stinky The Clown]

7. Jump to conclusions much?

You're talking out of your ass and you have NO idea who I am or what I believe.

[Phoonzang]

13. Look at your own post n/t

[natrat]

18. i think he was pointing out that many people have no clue as to the changes coming, do you?

[Phoonzang]

21. I didn't have a problem with that idea so much

as the gloating tone of the message. The fact that no one else here has had a problem with it is telling.

[Virginia Dare]

22. The mockery is most likely directed at..

stupid people who voted for oil barons to make our energy policy. I think I've read enough of the OP to safely say that is the case, and I personally have no empathy towards those types if they're suffering now.

[krabigirl]

28. I did! The idea is true, the gloating isn't a good way to talk about it though.

[Stinky The Clown]

33. We're fucking dying and you argue about tone?????

You posted twice in this thread about essentially the same thing .... tone. Did you notice that we're FUCKING DYING?

[Stinky The Clown]

19. n/t ..... cute. Shorthand of a dummie.

You called me a peak oiler.

Where do you get that from the OP, smart guy?

[Phoonzang]

20. If the price of oil is going to

never come down, and continue to rise to where people are eating dog food, it sounds like that's a crash caused by peak oil. It had more to do with the gloating theme of the OP. I've seen the same kind of language used by people like Jim Kunstler. So I made an assumption. That and I was looking to lash out at someone on this subject. Someone posting a worthless, assholish post gloating about people suffering seemed just set me off.

[Stinky The Clown]

24. Maybe its a crash caused by unchecked speculators

Maybe you have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe I don't.

But you jumped to an unfounded, yet concrete conclusion. That's what pissed me off.

Clear?

[Phoonzang]

25. Ok. Clear

I think we understand what pissed each other off.

[havocmom]

10. A lot of us have been howling for DECADES that we have to change our ways

while we could do it without too much disruption. No! cried the powers that be (and make $$ on status quo). They HAD to have every last dime they could get from oil before they would admit there was a problem and allow serious discussion of alternative solutions in the halls of government and industry.

WE did not want civilization to collapse, we wanted change while there was time to do it in constructive manners. Powers that be howled 'it will cost JOBS!!!' Bullshit, it WOULD HAVE created jobs, it just would have cost them some panic money at the end of oil.

The powers that be wanted this mess and they are the ones celebrating. They are hoarding all the wealth AND resources world wide and the rest of us will just be dust under their feet as they are left with only each other to battle for more wealth. The next wars will be industry v industry. One can already see the opening skirmishes shaping up

We wanted to avert this whole mess by taking action decades ago. We are not the ones destroying environment AND societies.

[krabigirl]

27. I have to admit, the post did sound a bit condescending.

[Stinky The Clown]

31. The post was pure snark, smart assedness and sarcasm

We need to reissue senses of humor every now and again. It means pain for us clowns when they stop working.

[Clark2008]

3. What's a vacation?

[Kittycat]

4. We're planning on $5/gal by mid summer, and...

have no plans to travel after the end of June. Family will just have to come up here to see the boys. It's 3hrs to my parents, and 6 to my DHs. Typically, we take several trips down from spring until school starts. Not this year.

[AlCzervik]

5. 2 years ago i thought $3.00 gas would be the new normal, boy was i wrong.

the first to take the big hits are the working poor and then it will up the chain except for the wealthy.

[Possumpoint]

14. Quess Again

The first who got hurt are those on fixed incomes with no COLA's.

[rurallib]

6. I see Hoovervilles coming back

probably be called "bushtowns"
maybe even the good old "company town" will have a survival.

[SocratesInSpirit]

8. You load sixteen tons...

And what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
St. Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store.

Woohoo. :-(

[Virginia Dare]

23. Wal-Mart is the new company store of the corporatocracy..n/t

[spanone]

9. i take a tube of ky jelly to the gas pumps with me.....i'm prepared

[MikeNearMcChord]

11. It seems that the guys wearing the ski masks and the guns

are now behind the counter of the gas stations, actually they are the speculators and the CEO's of the oil companies. It looks like the return of the Hillbilly credit card, a garden hose and gas can.

[wtmusic]

17. Is KY petroleum-based?

You'll be paying more for that too...

[predfan]

12. Here's your campaign commercial when we finally start fighting the republicans...........

Slow camera shot of Bush and saudi prince strolling hand in hand, pausing occasionally to rub cheeks.........there's plenty of file film out there. Announcer says " think Republicans represent you when it comes to fighting for lower gas prices? How'd the last 8 years work out for you?"

Go to $4 a gallon gas sign on slow traffic corner, and fade to dark. "VOTE DEMOCRAT"

[wtmusic]

15. The last hurrah of the Bush Administration

$$ Get it while you can, boys. $$

[lonestarnot]

16. LOL Ain't life grand when yer fucked!

[krabigirl]

26. Well, DH lives about 5 miles from work. We don't drive much.

He will probably start biking there half of the time.

And I am a SAHM with a CR-V that gets OK mileage, and I rarely drive. But when I go back to work it will have to be close to home.

The thing I am most worried about is food prices due to the fuel costs. And, having very young kids...what will it be like in 10 or 20 years?!

[Stinky The Clown]

34. Tents and Alpo

That seems like a joke, right?

Think about it.

[raccoon]

29. Yes. Yes, I was naive. nt

[krabigirl]

30. I also don't think people are "morons" for wanting to go on vacation.

[Stinky The Clown]

35. Loading up the SUV with beach gear and towing the boat 500 miles makes sense ....... how?

WE

ARE

DYING

Taking a car vacation is an ever decreasing possibility for far too many people.

But go ahead .... argue with me and my tone. That'll help a shitload.

[madmom]

32. I promised my 2 grand daughters (4 &6) they could come visit me this summer for a couple weeks, I

have to drive 420 miles, one way to pick them up, then take them home. What a dilemma!!!! Have I ever said I HATE REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!!!

[klyon]

36. No, 1 1/2 years ago I said to my right wing neighbor that was

complaining about the price of gas, "watch for a dollar a year price rise until it gets to 10 dollars". I may have been wrong, it seems to be going faster. He thought I was nuts and that George would not let that happen. "Time will tell "I said.