Do you believe our bad economy is in anyway connected to Iraq War?

[kentuck]

Do you believe the $4 per gallon for gas is connected to US occupation in Iraq? Do you believe the price of gas affects the price of bread and the cost of doing business? Do you believe that those who got us into the Iraq War are responsible for the present bad economy and high gas prices? Or do you think this is all just a normal cycle for the economy?

[katmondoo]

1. Well,Yes and Yes again

[LakeSamish706]

2. Everything bad that is taking place in the world is related in one way or...

another to the Bush Administration, which includes the Iraq war... So the answer is Yes.

[Red Zelda]

3. If they wouldn't have dumped the $$$ in Iraq

they'd have found another way to steal it.
Let's invade Iran so gasoline can hit $7 a gallon.

[TBF]

4. Are you serious?

What do you think happens when you are forced to borrow billions of dollars a month from other countries to fight your wars? Our dollar barely has the worth of monopoly money and our economy has hit the wall.

Part of the business cycle? You've been listening to FOX news too long.

[yardwork]

6. Psst. Take some time to familiarize yourself with Kentuck's posts.

Kentuck knows what's going on - he's no Fox news admirer.

[TBF]

9. Yes, I am pretty new to DU -

how do I look up someone's posts?

[Forkboy]

12. You can do a search on them.

The "search" link is at the top of the page.

Welcome to DU. :toast:

[TBF]

14. great - thank you!

[kentuck]

7. Do you think those that voted for the war in Iraq...?

are responsible for the bad economy? Including Hillary?

[Saturday]

11. Those that continue to fund it are responsible.nt

[yardwork]

5. Duh.

[L. Coyote]

8. Do'h!! n/t

[kentuck]

10. Hillary is talking "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!"

How serious do you take those promises?

[JDPriestly]

21. As seriously as I take her promise to do something about NAFTA

which is not very seriously. And about as seriously as I take her health care proposal (which sounds as good as Edwards') now that Schumer has come out and said that Congress will squelch serious health care reform. Her plan is to promise the stars and the moon and then, when she is in office, play good cop to Congress's bad cop.

And as for Obama, he doesn't even bother to make any of the important promises.

Where is Edwards? Why didn't you all vote for him?

Don't complain to me about Hillary or Obama once they are elected if you did not vote for Edwards. (And I believe there will be plenty to complain out, regardless which of them is our nominee.) Face it, America missed the boat by not nominating the best of our candidates -- John Edwards. I will not give up on this.

[kentuck]

26. But Bill signed NAFTA....

You can't have guilt by association...can you?

[riderinthestorm]

13. Yes.

Decided to post on this thread before it got too long and I couldn't get in it anymore... LOL! I suspect your going to get a virtual deluge of affirmation.

[kentuck]

16. But do they realize what they are affirming?

When they say "Yes"?

[riderinthestorm]

22. (Painful groan) Oh please, please, I hope so.

Please tell me the average DUer isn't that dense! :dunce:

[zonmoy]

15. the last action of a dying empire is to loot their own country.

the second to the last act is to invade and loot every other country they can.

[Doityourself]

17. Yes.

[JDPriestly]

18. Yes, and the current and coming inflation is and will be directly caused

by the waste of our money on that war.

[Fireweed247]

19. Of course!

That and the "free" trade agreements which benefit the Corporations only.

And every member of Congress that has given Bush a blank check and the free reign to ignore our Constitution is equally at fault. "I was following orders" is not a valid excuse.
www.peacecandidates.com

[QueenOfCalifornia]

20. Fuck Yes

I have a zit on my ass and I know that somehow it is related to the Bush administration who in fact is responsible for the occupation of Iraq.

Bush and his pals have fucked up this country so bad it is ridiculous. :eyes:

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

23. No

This is not to say that Iraq does not hurt but with the * mentality of cut the taxes, use the credit cards and let the good times roll we could be at peace and still have a crap economy..

[LSK]

24. 100billion per year spent on blowing things up

versus 100billion per year rebuilding our infrastructure, giving healthcare, paying for college?

Also how much in the price of oil is from tension and violence in the middle east. Yes there was always unrest in the middle east but not a whole country with hundreds dying a week.

Also there is the specter of war with Iran which would shut down the Persian Gulf.

[kenny blankenship]

29. And the overall amount (mis)allocated towards the military tops a TRILLION a year now

figure the opportunity costs on that!

[TechBear_Seattle]

25. Yes, but only because you asked "in any way"

Part of our faltering economy is the lack of "investor" confidence within the global exchange, caused in large part because of our actions in Iraq. Another part is the vast money pit that Iraq has become for our country, with no funding going back in to shore things up. To put it in business terms: the United States is a once blue-chip company that, because of new management, has driven itself into the ground with high-risk business ventures that have absolutely nothing to do with the firm's core products. Investors in our stock (the dollar and government bonds) have sold out and taken their money elsewhere, leaving us with a very serious cash flow problem. That, in turn, lowered our stock price and has started to drive away even more potential investors.

Increasing oil prices are definitely a part; those increases have had a huge ripple effect as the cost to manufacture and ship goods has increased. Petroleum prices have, in turn, driven increased demand for biofuels which are currently made from food crops, driving prices of corn to even higher levels. However, the price of oil is a global phenomenon that does not effect the United States specifically, and I believe that they are only marginally, if at all, related to the US invasion and occupation of Iraq. Because of the embargo on Iraqi oil before the invasion, and the damage to oil production infrastructure caused by the repeated bombing raids under the Clinton administration, it is very unlikely that prices would be much different had we not invaded Iraq.

In the main, though, I believe our economic woes stem from the greed of the mortgage lenders who caused the current sub-prime crisis. The offshoring of jobs has not helped either.

[damntexdem]

27. Of course it is all connected to Iraq. $3 trillion down the rathole has consequences.

Every time I see ones of those "it's not because of Iraq" stories in the NY Times, I am disgusted. Of course other things are involved, the tax cuts most of all; but Iraq not only helped cause the recession, its costs help keep the country from doing anything about it.

[lutefisk]

28. The bad economy is because the public fears a Democratic win in the 2008 elections

If we haven't heard that one yet, we will.

But seriously, it's almost all Iraq for many, many reasons. Add in the effects of tax cuts and Bush fiscal "policy" and the country clearly is being looted.

The larger cause is the result of the perfect storm: Bush and anything!

[Richard Steele]

30. One Nobel Prize-winning economist says it is:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23286149-2703,00.html

"THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted and was a central cause of the sub-prime banking crisis threatening the world economy, according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.
The former World Bank vice-president yesterday said the war had, so far, cost the US something like $US3trillion ($3.3 trillion) compared with the $US50-$US60-billion predicted in 2003."
..............
"The spending on Iraq was a hidden cause of the current credit crunch because the US central bank responded to the massive financial drain of the war by flooding the American economy with cheap credit."
..............
"That led to a housing bubble and a consumption boom, and the fallout was plunging the US economy into recession and saddling the next US president with the biggest budget deficit in history, he said."


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