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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:58 PM Original message |
Time for this REPOST on birth control and poverty: How the Christofacists are making us all poorer: |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. k&r |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Of course it's also a man's issue, I do not father children. My wife has no right to my fathering |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. You HAVE a wife? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Yes I have a wife. There isn't any reason for you to be condescending toward her. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. she has no right to know your medical conditions? on what grounds do you |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Of course she choses who she does and doesn't inform about her medical |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. So you guys |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I have no idea if she has informed me of all or of the severity of medical conditions |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Really? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. That may fit your situation, but my wife has no training or knowledge in health care. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Thanks for misunderstanding the post |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. So if you got AIDS, she has no right to know that? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Do feminists believe that people do not have a right to medical privacy? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. If your wife is wanting to get pregnant and you get a secret vasectomy, |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Neither of us wishes to have children. I think you are confusing what is someone's rights |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. So, IOW, you are making broad general statements based on |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Of course there moral ramifications of certian excerizes of rights. Which do not diminish the |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. Amen. It's sexist that reproductive issues are relegated to the women's ghetto |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. True, but OTOH women have first say in the matter as it is they |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. In consensual sex the man has the first say in preventing pregnancy |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Has there been such a mad rush on your sperm that you seem obsessed with keeping it safe? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. People don't have to have had a mad rush on their sperm, womb or medical privacy to |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. You're one of the few I've seen so worried. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. No, the man and woman have EQUAL say - |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. k & r |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. Read Matt Taibbi's article in the newest Rolling Stone. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Link? |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. It's been posted. "Jesus Made Me Puke" Matt Taibbi |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Thanks! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You haven't missed much. Changing the world takes a long time. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Read the article..AMAZING! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-23-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. The Children of God and other such cults subject you to an intense |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. It seems to be all about breaking down the personality |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Brain washing, shock therapy, torture, all the same thing. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. But this seems largely voluntary on the part of people who are already desperate |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Where does peer pressure cross over into coercion? I didn't go to |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Hmm. That is a really good question |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. maybe they should move to Pennsylvania, nobody is bitter there. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Now, now |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I'm 63 years old. I can say anything and nobody notices. It's liberating. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Ah... I gotta wait awhile for that. :) |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. No hurry. Enjoy the trip. |
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