Remember the State of the Union when 2 women were removed

[jumpoffdaplanet]

both for wearing Tshirts

And we couldn't figure out why the republician woman was removed.

Well, Randi Rhodes just mentioned that this woman had stopped visting at Walter Reed because of the horrors she saw there. She tried to get someone to listen and get things fixed. But no one would do anything, and her husband was told to shut her up.

Her "support the troops" tshirt was about that.

Wow.

[Supersedeas]

1. Dissent and especially the truth will not be tolerated

[AlCzervik]

2. wow, if i remember right she was the wife of a republican congressman--yes?

[bluedog]

6. wife of Clearwater Fl Rep.Bill Young n/t

[rzemanfl]

3. I don't believe a word of it. The woman you mention is the

second, much younger, wife of the person who pretends to represent me in Congress, C.W. "Bill" Young. She worked in Young's office until he left his wife to marry her.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

4. I guess she had a line she didn't want to cross

Ok to break up a marriage, but screwing over wounded troops didn't sit well with her.

:)

[rzemanfl]

5. The whole story from start to finish is total horseshit. Just

a diversion and a photo op for her elderly asshat husband.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

7. And if all the crap about WR wasn't happening

I'd be willing to think that.

However, to be removed from the SOTU, and yet not arrested for wearing the "support the troops" tshirt, at a time that people were being told to shut up about what was happening there...

It makes that scene at the SOTU make sense finally.

Sorry if it doesn't fit with your worldview. But that doesn't make it untrue.

[rzemanfl]

9. The fact that this far-fetched story line seems to fit your

worldview and Randi's doesn't make it true either. While I am not adverse to folks doing some lying about the Repukes, like the pukes do about Dems constantly, we should not believe our own propaganda. Do you really think that Walter Reed Hospital would show a Congresscritter and his wife "horrors?" They got the Potemkin village tour every time they went there, each time seeing "severely wounded brave American soldiers receiving the best medical care modern science could give them." Murtha was visiting that hospital too, at about the same time, he even remarked about it-making a direct reference to Young's visits-while speaking in Congress. Why didn't he see the "horrors" that the wife of Bill Young supposedly saw?

I think if you search the archives here you'd find there were questions at the time of the original incident as to: 1) whether she actually wore the shirt 2) whether she was actually removed from *'s little "speech to the nation" (remember our genius beloved leader couldn't remember what it was called.)

Also, remember that she got a t-shirt later, as "gift" from the troops in Iraq, sniffed it and said "smells like Iraq"-like she'd know what Iraq smelled like. The whole thing was Repuke agitprop, not some bitch suddenly growing a conscience.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

14. It's too bad.

But it there isn't a chance for someone to change, then we might as well as pack it up and die.

We might as well as stop trying to change voting machines to paper trails.

I guess David Brock should just shut down Media Matters, because there's no way he changed.

I can only feel sorry for you that you can't believe anyone has the ability to change. That the hatred you feel for one congressman spills over to his wife.

Sure, she's stupid to get married to someone like that. But that doesn't mean she doesn't care for the troops. It doesn't mind she can't try to do this one thing to help.

[rzemanfl]

15. Come now. I join with the person below who spits in Young's

general direction.

When Mrs. Young got the second t-shirt and was at the photo-op with the cameras rolling, did she take that opportunity to say "the wounded at Walter Reed are not getting proper care?" No, she said "smells like Iraq."

Laws can be changed, machines can be made better, but these people are not going to suddenly become more concerned for the wounded than they are about politics. We heard nothing about this until after the WaPo story.

Beverly was not "stupid" to marry a man twenty-five years older than she, she was CALCULATING, working in his office until she could get him to leave his family and marry her. There is no "spill over" here. I hate her for different reasons than I hate her husband.

I broke my ass working for Young's opponent in the last election. So feel sorry for me that I have an asshat congress-critter, not for my world view. If these bozos aren't stopped soon, there may be no world to view anyway, in which case you can hope your jumping prowess is as prodigious as your screen name suggests.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

16. Spit all you want

It doesn't take anything away from what she did. It's part of history.

It was a brave thing to do, and no amount of sour grapes can take away from it.

It's too bad some people don't have the courage to encourage this kind of bravery.

[rzemanfl]

18. Lemme understand this, you are saying:

She was brave to wear a t-shirt no one saw her wear that she had to leave because of, although no one saw her leave, and now she says was to protest bad conditions at Walter Reed although she didn't say that in 2005 when this supposedly happened?

It is a shame they can't give the Congressional Medal of Honor to a woman like that....maybe the medal of freedom?

[jumpoffdaplanet]

20. See, it was brave

As for the rest, people aren't simple black&white cutouts.

You can do one brave thing, and then get scared again. Especially when the brave thing bring the kind of attention that can get you hurt.

And when the people who should support and encourage you for the brave thing, instead deride you and post that it wasn't brave.

I for one, will always praise the bravery, regardless of what else happens, because I know being truly brave takes practice. It's not like in a book or a movie.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

8. Thanks to the people recommended the thread

That was so cool! :)

[Dammit Ann]

10. Wow...

is right.

Is this a sign of things to come?

[baldguy]

11. One was quietly asked to leave a an usher.

The other was accosted by a police officer and dragged away in handcuffs.

[caligirl]

12. Cong. Young's wife my friend.. i remember this well. and mentioned

in the Priest/Hulle article.

[soup]

13. He knew, too. And was in a position to do something about it.

I'm so angry right now, I could scream. Take a look at this from this morning's St. Petersburg Times:

Young faces fury in vets' scandal

After a newspaper report, the frequent visitor to wounded soldiers is assailed online for inaction.

By BILL ADAIR
Published March 2, 2007

>snip<
Beverly Young said that during their visits to Walter Reed a soldier with a head injury repeatedly fell out of his bed. One soldier's surgery had to be delayed because of broken equipment.

The Youngs said that they complained to Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley, who headed the hospital and is now the Army's surgeon general, and that they were not satisfied with his response. They said they complained to other Army officials.

Rep. Young, who at the time was chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, said he did not hold hearings or complain in a press release.

"I don't do my business through the press," he said.

But Young said he was "offended" recently when Kiley blamed his subordinates for the Walter Reed problems.

"He was the boss and had been told about many of these problems by Beverly and by me," said Young, who is now the senior Republican on the Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense. "I think he should be held accountable."
>snip<
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/03/02/Worldandnation/Young_faces_fury_in_v.shtml

"I don't do my business through the press"!!
What the hell is that??!!
Oh, okay, Bill. You're exempt. You're excused.
Slimy freaking war monger. "Shame! Shame!"

Go along to get along. Don't make waves.

Let them 'twist your arm' and change your vote on the Energy bill. Remember that one, kids?
Leaving the vote open for 45 minutes. "Shame! Shame!"

I watched with tears streaming down my face when Pelosi led the chamber in the cries of "Shame! Shame!"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/07/AR2005100701811.html

Stand up in congress, hold up a t-shirt and cry "Shame! Shame!" after your wife is asked to leave the SOTU (or whatever that little speech is called). Did you defend Cindy Sheehan's rights, too? What? no? "Shame! Shame!"

"I don't do my business through the press" :grr: I spit in your general direction.


edit to add emphasis within the article.

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. I am incensed over this also

The man is a US Congressman! And instead of trying to help the wounded soldiers, he chose to walk away and follow his directive to just not bother to visit Walter Reed anymore. Why worry his pretty little mind with this kind of ugliness? It's more important to be loyal to the republican party and not embarrass the president.

These people make me want to :puke:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

17. Force is all-conquering, but its victories are short-lived. A L

[Sydnie]

19. Remember the Brac closings in 2005?

According to the Washington Post, Walter Reed was possibly on the list of facilities to be closed. It appears in the end, they agreed to realign it rather than close it.

Perhaps their idea of realigning it was letting it fall down around them so they could close it anyway.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/13/AR2005051300216.html <-- post article

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/documents/base_list051305.pdf <-- Brac pdf

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. That was her?

WOW. I am so incensed that her husband, a fucking US Congressman, basically walked away from the abuse at Walter Reed and chose not to bother himself with trying to actually help the wounded soldiers. Did he contact Rumsfeld? Did he try to talk to bush? Did he contact the press or schedule a hearing?

No he stopped going to visit so he wouldn't have to worry his brainless mind about the problem.

These people make me sick to my stomach. How dare he and his wife come forward now. The spineless coward!!