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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:16 PM
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The beliefs of the FLDS
This group believes that when you die, you can go on to be a God on your own planet. Early teachings were that Adam was the God of this earth, and as the God of this earth, he had to populate the earth himself. Up in heaven there are spirit babies, who are the children of God and his wives. When you have mortal children, these spirit babies come down to earth. If a man has more wives, he can bring more babies into the world.

They believe that a man and his wives will be together forever in eternity, so a husband and wife will stay together as a God and Goddess on their own planet.

Righteous men are called to be patriarchs like in Bible times. Unrighteous men should not have children. The FLDS believes that it is their duty to breed a race of high priests through a system of patriarchy, and everyone who is a part of this system should have as many children as possible. Children are a symbol of goodness and worthiness for both a patriarch and his wife.

How does this relate to child rape?

Well, if a woman waits until she's 18 to start having kids, she's missing some good child-bearing years there. Heck, she could have 4 or 5 kids by then.

The FLDS believes that their prophet, Warren Jeffs, receives revelations directly from God in order to guide the group. Jeffs is the one who decides which girls are going to be assigned to which men. This is why he was arrested for being an accomplice to felony rape. Jeffs is a freak who married all but two of his father's wives after his father's death.

The community teaches that outsiders are Satanic and if a member leaves the group they will be damned to hell.

Nobody in the community other than Jeffs really has the power to stop this. If a man speaks out against it, his wives and children will be taken away from him and given to someone else. The men are as much prisoners of the system as the women and children.

That being said, it's a cult that thrives on systematic sexual, physical, mental, and emotional abuse, and this cult should be disbanded by the power of the state.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:21 PM
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1. The mother-ship is in the tail of the comet.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:22 PM
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2. you say that like it's a BAD thing....
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 12:23 PM by mike_c
All the women you want AND you get your own planet? DAYUM....

Seventy-two virgins pales in comparison.

:rofl:
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:25 PM
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3. You are so bad! LMAO! n/t
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:28 PM
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5. You going to go see if the FLDS needs an entymologist?
I'm sure you'd blend right in. :P

Furthermore, I'm sure Colorado City, Arizona is just like Arcata, California. Redwoods, farmer's market, kinetic sculpture race, 420 celebration in the park that YOU SHOULD BE AT...
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:33 PM
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6. Having been to both.....
Ha! Thats a good one. I live a scant 130 miles from Arcata and on the right south wind day, I can smell the Patchouli and activism... :hi:
Colorado City? Ah, yeah...nice scenics but I wouldn't stray off the path, too cute for that.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:25 PM
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8. OMG!-- I forgot it's 4/20 in Arcata!
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 01:28 PM by mike_c
:rofl:

edit-- Actually, I've been sick all weekend so I'm not in a very celebratory mood. Got the crud, it seems.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:50 PM
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11. Everybody ALWAYS has the crud there
What else is new? :shrug:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:45 PM
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16. Don't let the wacko Muslims that believe in 72 virgins know about the FLDS.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:48 PM
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20. It's not just the FLDS. It's the LDS.
It ain't a religion for women.

The lucky ones, like me, finally see it for what it is and leave, thereby finding freedom and peace.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:46 PM
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19. Okay, after a deep breath, I've avoided swearing at you.
Try growing up as a woman in a religion that tells you that if you're really really good someday you may get to be a brood mare in some celestial harem.

Then say that shit.

At least I got out of it. There are millions of Mormon women who still believe that.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:56 PM
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24. swear away if it makes you feel better....
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 08:58 PM by mike_c
I have a pretty thick skin. And no love or respect for ANY religion.

Clue: it's h u m o r. That's what this little guy usually signifies. No no, not THAT little guy! THIS little guy: :rofl:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:27 PM
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4. One Important Question:
On the newly acquired planet, do the wives AGE? :rofl:
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:50 PM
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21. That's not funny.
Not funny at all.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:48 PM
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7. Why don't you list christian beliefs and those of us who don't
believe in God will have a laugh about that?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:27 PM
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10. Stop defending these slave-holding child-rapists. It's beyond disgusting. nm
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:14 PM
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17. you came to this thread to champion pedophilia too? You are
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 10:15 PM by roguevalley
beyond the pale.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:31 PM
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18. maybe because this thread is about FLDS? Or is it Facts=Bad?
Someone will always laugh, someone will always then take offense at someone else.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:52 PM
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22. It's never funny if you're someone who has suffered because of it.
LDS beliefs cause women great emotional pain, yet it's hard to just drop beliefs you've been raised with since childhood.


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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:56 PM
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23. yup.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:23 PM
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9. Don't forget - FLDS are RABID racists also.
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/04/07/racism-of-raid... /

Now watch the FLDS apologists show up here and deny this or try to explain it away.......
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:51 PM
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12. Hence the "trying to breed a master race."
These people are a CULT and they're dangerous, if not to outsiders, to their own members.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:12 PM
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13. Yeah, but that "master race" thing seems to be running into
a little hitch along the way. It even has a nickname: Polygamists' Down's. Tragic, and frankly just another form of child abuse, to let this unnecessary thing happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumarase_deficiency

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:14 PM
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14. Hey, why you got to hate on teh
inbred, banjo-picking, albino Fundy pseudo-Mormons? They're people too! :o
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:18 PM
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15. Oh, you're just BAD!
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