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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:56 PM
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John Bolton: "The war in Iraq lasted three weeks... We were completely victorious."

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/apr/18/john-bolton-dallas/

Were it anyone else speaking, some of the quotes from Thursday's NCPA lecture series might have been shocking. But with John Bolton at the helm, the occasional uncensored assertion was expected.

Speaking primarily about the various security threats to the United States - Iran, North Korea, China, and Russia, to name a few - his most controversial statements to the 400+ person luncheon were in regard to the Iraq war.

At one point when discussing Americans' perception of the war and what should or should not have been done, the Former Ambassador to the U.N. clarified, "The war in Iraq lasted three weeks... We were completely victorious." The audience seemed confused. He continued playing a game of semantics with the term "war" and the U.S.'s current effort to alleviate terrorism in the region. The largely favorable crowd became fidgety when Bolton made the following statement

"It's not because we didn't have a plan for what happened after Saddam was overthrown. We had too many plans. We had lots of ideas, no one of which prevailed; no one decision was made."

To which one attendee within earshot said, "So, what you're saying is, there was no plan."

It became clear that his definition of various issues in Iraq were counter to those of many supporters in the room.


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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:58 PM
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1. What the fuck is he smoking and where might I obtain some?
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jensmygov Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:59 PM
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3. Bolton
I smell a Worst person in the World.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:59 PM
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2. I agree. We won. Bring the troops home. NOW
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:00 PM
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4. There are reasons he could not get confirmed, even with a GOP Senate
mainly because Bolton is certified nuts. Even the GOP knows this.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:02 PM
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5. Great, John. You go spend three months there, outside the Green Zone
and without a security detail, and I'll listen to anything you want to say when you get back. If you get back.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:03 PM
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6. He is correct....
we won the "war" easily....we have been OCCUPYING a sovereign country every since.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:11 PM
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12. yep
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 01:13 PM by frogcycle
Mission Accomplished, May 1, 2003.


Invasion was March 20, so by Bolton's reckoning bush was three weeks late in making the declaration, but close enough.

As I recall there were 127 KIA in Iraq as of that date.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:05 PM
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7. John Bolton is STUPID.....n/t
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:06 PM
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8. Was he speaking to parents, spouses or children
of anyone (American or Iraqi) who has lost their lives since the "victory"? Bastard.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:14 PM
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14. you mean those 3909 killed by 'criminals'
while peaceably roaming the streets in our newfound ally's vacation paradise?

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:07 PM
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9. Who is the "NCPA", and why would they want to listen?. . . . . . . n/t
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:08 PM
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10. based on the report - it appears they weren't really buying his bs...
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:10 PM
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11. Well in a semantic sense I suppose it's true...
...we did "win" the "war" (invasion) handily.

It is for situations such as what we now have in Iraq, that the term "pyrrhic victory" was coined.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:12 PM
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13. And the Occupation goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:15 PM
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15. What's the problem?
He's right. We won the war. We have badly botched the occupation. The occupation is being called a "war" by the WH in an effort to buy Bush some leeway as a "war" President. So far, people have fallen for it, too.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:15 PM
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16. completely dislusional these neocons all need to locked up.
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 01:17 PM by alyce douglas
how sick. Rewriting history in their own sick image. This slime need to go back under their rocks.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:18 PM
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17. Therefore, Germany won World War Two
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:41 PM
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20. Yip
Bolton would like to apologize to the Queen of England and will start sending his taxes to the British immediately.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:22 PM
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18. Doesn't that sort of negate Bush's claim to
"war powers"?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:27 PM
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19. Then what the fuck have we been doing there for the last 5 years?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:48 PM
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21. bolton is preoccupied with as to why his still isn't master of the universe. nt
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