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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:23 PM
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For many victims of clergy abuse, the scars are now burning
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 05:27 PM by Breeze54
For many victims of clergy abuse, the scars are now burning

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/04/14/for_many_victims_of_clergy_abuse_the_scars_are_now_burning/

By Michael Levenson
Globe Staff / April 14, 2008

When Pope John Paul II celebrated Mass on Boston Common on Oct. 1, 1979, Robert Costello was there. He was 18, president of the Catholic Youth Organization at St. Theresa of Avila parish in West Roxbury, and a freshman at Boston College. Praying in the rain with 400,000 believers, he watched as his friend, who was dying of cancer, took Communion from the pope's hand.

Now, almost 29 years later, Costello is anticipating another pope's visit. Only this time, he is going to protest, not pray. A victim of sexual abuse by a priest who was supposed to teach his Boy Scout troop to swim, Costello will travel from Boston to New York City Friday to read aloud the names of fellow victims, while Benedict XVI addresses the United Nations.

"I don't owe him the courtesy of kissing his ring, because they certainly didn't do me the courtesy of stopping this abuse when it happened," said Costello, a 46-year-old Norwood resident who, in 1989, came to terms with the abuse he said he suffered between the ages of 10 and 14.

For many victims of clergy sexual abuse, Benedict's visit to New York and Washington revives the rage, powerlessness, and despair of having had their faith broken and their abuse unacknowledged for decades. Many say the pope has not done enough to prevent abuse and that it is still occurring. They see Benedict's decision to bypass Boston, the epicenter of the crisis, as willful disregard for the problem.

"It's just the sort of thing where I hear about it, and I turn away in disgust," said Peter Pollard, 56, who said he was molested in the 1960s by a priest in Marblehead and who works for an organization in Amherst dedicated to stopping abuse.

"It's not something I have interest in or want to have interest in. I feel pretty dismissive and disdainful of the pope and his office and his past behavior."


Some Catholics, however, hope that Benedict's visit will inaugurate an era of openness between victims and the Vatican. Archbishop Pietro Sambi, the pope's US ambassador, has told USA Today that Benedict plans to address the abuse crisis several times.

Sambi has also told the National Catholic Reporter that a meeting with victims is "within the field of possibility, but I cannot confirm anything."

The main national organization representing victims, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, has heard nothing from the Vatican or its representatives, despite requesting a meeting with the pope, according to its national director, David Clohessy.

"He has a huge opportunity here, and if he misses that opportunity, he will not get it back," said Gary M. Bergeron, a Salem, N.H., resident whose book, "Don't Call Me A Victim," chronicles the alleged sexual abuse by priests of his father, his brother, and himself. Bergeron, his father, and another victim sought unsuccessfully to tell their stories to John Paul II at the Vatican in 2003.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:32 PM
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1. Did this new Pope go back in time and tell the pastors to fuck little boys?
If not, I do not understand the correlation.

After all, I remember who molested me. Should I in turn despise the part of them to which they revere the most? (and trust me, I could raise the mutha of all parallels with this issue.)

The religion isn't the problem. The vile pigs who molested the children, under the guise of their religion are. The last I checked, Catholicism does not condone molesting children.

What can the Pope do? Tell his fellow pastors, "Yo, don't fiddle with boys' pickles"?! Those who molest certainly don't give a damn about authority and, again, where in the Bible does it say it's okay to molest children?



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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:45 PM
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4. He is not meeting with the victims and has been almost silent about the issue.
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 05:45 PM by Breeze54
They deserve better. And they weren't "fucked" ... they were

RAPED !!



The religion isn't the problem. The vile pigs who molested the children, under the guise of their religion are.

Hiding behind a hassock or a minister's collar to molest children certainly is the problem. But religion turning a blind eye is also part of the problem and the other priest's and the bishops KNEW the raping was going on and merely moved that priest to another parish where they had no knowledge of his past and he was free to molest and rape again. The church is and was culpable for that and so is the pope, as the church's leader.

What can the Pope do? Tell his fellow pastors, "Yo, don't fiddle with boys' pickles"?! Crude you are... :eyes:

Yes, that's exactly what he should've been doing and it was just reported that he has sent a group of people to screen for any pedophiles in seminaries and to have them removed. He should've been taking more actions than he has taken up until now, which is pretty much nothing.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:52 PM
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10. Agreed
The religion should not have turned a blind eye.



I used "fucked" in the context of "raped". Seemed pretty straightforward, one way or the other.

And you're calling that part of my response ("fickle/pickle") crude? That's nothing compared to what those bastards did in the first place...

I will also postulate, perhaps the new pope has been working in secret? Not likely, but I'm not there with him so I can't say much one way or the other. Only emote and conjecture.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:55 PM
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12. I never substitute
the word raped for being fucked. The word 'fucked' doesn't capture

the violence and terror of the victim. 'Raped' does, imho.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:50 PM
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15. The entire institution knew what was going on
demeaned and attacked the victims and tried to cover it up. Fuck the entire institution.

Better yet - fuck all religion.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:49 PM
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8. The Catholic religion silenced everyone, demeaned the children and families,
outright lied about every single report that was ever filed by anyone, minimized anyone's concerns and more and more and more.

And for what? For the sick bastards in the boy's club called the priesthood. No, sorry can't agree. The Catholic Church is the stain in this matter. They willfully sacrificed thousands and thousands in the world for the sake of a smaller percentage of sick fuck's.

American problem my ass, look up the reporting rates in Ireland and Canada. Especially the orphanages and seminiaries.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:58 PM
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13. And also look up The Baptist church and Protestant Churches
They have even more rapes and pedophilia going on than the Catholic Church.
And just last week that off shoot of the Mormons and raping little girls.

This behavior seems to be rampant in all the religions! :grr:
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:33 PM
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14. Agreed....
I have a very good friend who grew up in the Baptist Church - She has three friends who were abused by clergy in three differnt Baptist churches. She has always screamed that the Catholic priests weren't the only offenders. This statement is certainly not intended to diminish those who were abused by priests.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:37 PM
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2. So the case in our diocese is coming to a close
I was on a conference call for 'victims' yesterday. It was totally confidential, so I have no idea who else was on the call. When the questions started you could tell the anger was deep, very deep. One fellow started kind of crying. He said "all I ever wanted was an apology, just an admission they were wrong."
I sent a letter to the diocese a decade ago. All I ever wanted was an apology. When they replied with a very formal letter that I would be added to the lawsuit all desire for any apology left and revenge became a motive. If the pope came to my house I am not sure I would let him in. The churches' response taught me one thing. They are a human institution run by humans, usually with the ruling elite in mind.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:42 PM
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3. I am so sorry.
But I'm not the Pope or Catholic so it probably doesn't count. But I hope you get whatever you need to make peace with it, yourself, or whatever rises up to block you or cause you pain.

And damn the bastards who destroyed your trust and changed your life.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:49 PM
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7. Funny thing is I am long over my pain
The whole fiasco really helped me see the church as it really is - human. A couple of guys were really bothered. One guy sounded really mad. As for me I have lost my religion and it was about the best thing ever happened to me. But I would like to see those arrogant bastards get burned badly for their attitude. But I feel the same way about all arrogant bastards such as Vitter, Bush , Cheney, Rice etc.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:51 PM
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9. Same here.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:46 PM
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5. Yep. First there is the abuse and nobody cared. Then there is the abuse following
disclosure and nobody cared. Once you've been abused in this way you think you're dead. Once you tell and they shit all over you for trying to keep if from happening to other kids and they turn around and confirm it.

Apologies and more apologies and more apologies.......

People have no idea of how it feels to be so totally dismissed by this church. So long as they will hide the throughly corrupt butt of Cardinal Lawless...nothing that is said means a thing.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:52 PM
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11. The pope did address it today briefly but not nearly enough and
it seems to me that's the first I've heard him even speak about it. I could be wrong.

I hope he does more than a short speech and actually meets with the victims, not just the clergy.

Rape is a crime of violence and affects a person's psyche, not just their body.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:48 PM
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6. Deep seated anger and rage is a constant for most rape victims.
I'm sorry this happened to you. :hug:

Money might help pay for a lot of counseling. I hope you did join that lawsuit.
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