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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:17 PM
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I would have been a nullifying juror if I had been on the DC Madam jury
This case is an outrage. Prostitution between consenting adults should be legalized. I'm for small government when it comes to our personal lives: legalize prostitution, legalize drugs and no gun control. If two gay people want to get married, that;s their business and the state should not interfere!

If I had been a juror on that case I would have been a nullifier. Jury nullification is democratic.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:19 PM
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1. Me too ... especially in this case
It sounds like the truth hasn't completely yet come out as to WHO her clients
were ... who should be prosecuted TO THE SAME EXTENT AS THE MADAM as long as
this "crime" continues to be illegal.

How did Vitter get off (sorry!) not having to testify, much less being CHARGED?
Outrageous ...
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:21 PM
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3. With Vitter, there was no allegation of "sex", just poopie-pants.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:00 PM
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8. Oh, hell, same here
I was brought up by a woman who said that if my dad ever squandered money on a hooker, she'd just feel free to squander that much money on some luxury she wanted. She had pretty expensive tastes, so that kept my dad faithful or very, very discreet.

I've long thought "victimless crime" was an oxymoron. If junkies want to sleep their lives away on heroin, let it be so, just give them access to a safe and legal supply. If men want to hire hookers to do stuff the wife won't do or to provide comfort on road trips, let 'em. Just license hookers and keep those health checks current.

I'm sick to death of a nanny state that tries to legislate morality. It never works and it enables violent criminal cartels to arise and make our lives miserable.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:20 PM
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2. "Jury nullification is democratic."
It is as long as it is not based on social prejudice. For example, the numerous acquittals for the murders of Blacks just because the offenders were white. Or the acquittal of a rapist because the victim did not conform to expectations of behavior.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:21 PM
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4. Jury nullification is anarchy. Changing laws is democratic.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:12 PM
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9. It's not anarchy
Jury nullification is a reminder that the right to trial by one's peers affords the public an opportunity to take a dissenting view about the justness of a statute or official practices.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:50 PM
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10. The only way to change nanny state laws is through massive
civil disobedience.

Some people just don't have the stomach for it and would rather live in fear.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:26 PM
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5. Me, too. If we can't be trusted with our own lives
we can't be trusted to chose leaders with our vote and etc.
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:45 PM
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6. Legal and regulated IMO
Should be noted no Johns prosecuted, right? Hmmm ...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:46 PM
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7. It may be the right thing to do
but I don't see how it's democratic.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:59 PM
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11. then you wouldn't have been on the jury
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 08:00 PM by pitohui
the attorney and judge question you and if you peep up and offer some comment to the effect that you can't convict someone of this or that crime, the judge informs you of the penalties for contempt of court if you don't follow instructions (this assuming the atty doesn't have you removed from the jury altogether)

that's what happened to a friend of mine who tried it for marijuana laws anyway

most juries are rubber stamps, i'm not going to get fined or go to jail for contempt of court for some female pimp or some random pothead -- and, if you're honest with yourself, neither are you

nobody nullifies because nobody is going to put their own ass in jail and who can blame them?
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