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Mugu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 11:48 AM Original message |
Fuel or folly? Ethanol and the law of unintended consequences |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Who says it was unplanned? Come on everyone knows sugar cane is better then |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The corn lobby people were told that if corn syrup replaced sugar |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. harvest time, we would find beets in the road..what a treat! |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Same here, as a kid dad would take the family on a drive out to the area's he grew up in, mostly |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I was just going to comment about sugar cane. I believe it's 6 times more cost effective |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. Corn is not an environmentally-friendly crop |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Nitrogen is poisoning the Ogallala aquifer... the biggest in the world. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. yes, nitrate gets into our drinking water and is killing the Gulf of Mexico nt |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. Once again, biofuels make sense IF you pick the correct feedstock |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I do not want to get down on your case but I do want to point out something to you |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. they're not making oil from algae - other carbon compounds to store energy. nt |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Not sure what you mean... |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I meant three things but didn't flesh them out |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It's certainly NOT something for nothing |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I'll be interested to hear the results of those algae fuel startups - they sound promising. nt |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'm not a environmentalists, agribusiness, etc. but... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. The trouble is that people want that one magic bullet that will free us from petroleum dependence. |
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