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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:58 AM
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I can't breath, I'm so upset ... (for lack of a better word)
In the last two days I learned I was "white trash" and I was "poor trash" and I was "JUST" a single Mom and that I had raised "baby killers" (2 joined the military) and that I was not 'rich' so I "must" be a 'loser... You know the routine, right? No money... you don't exist...

... Ahh... everyone lets out 'their air' but it's hard... on you!

And so, I guess, I have to go back to the beginning of all of this......
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:07 AM
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1. Breeze,
where did you 'learn' all this?
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:08 AM
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2. wow. what's up breeze?
you ok?

say some more words so we can catch up...
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:29 AM
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5. If I 'tell' now, I'll be blabbering...
A "progressive" mod in 2004 (not on DU) was so angry about the war, said she wished
my son, who was stop lossed would die!! :cry: She actually said that.

Why do I bring that up? Because that's when I had to make a choice

I was against the war and rallying the troops and then I got news that floored me

My OWN son was being deployed and stop lossed, to boot!

I was attacked ruthlessly on that MB, and I defended myself and others did too

but the "so called" progressives attacked me about the war, night and day.

................ This is so much for me....

I was against the war from the start! But my son, age 24, an ADULT, joined BEFORE he told me

he even joined and then 9-11 happened, but he never told me he was even in the Guard until

he was almost out... He kept it from me. One month to go to get out and on Christmas Eve (no less! ugh!) he got his orders for Iraq. They had denied repeatedly that he'd be deployed)

I'm sitting here weeping about it all... it just killed me and I was on so-called progressive boards and they were wishing my son to be blown up!! :nuke: :wtf:

I think I've had enough of the bullshit and I want all of you to know that don't have a loved one deployed, that you are all so 'clueless', so 'not in the know'... you don't know hardship or loss or thereat of loss of a loved one and you have no RIGHT to try to talk and lecture me or any other military families here on DU!!

But this 'diatribe' went the way of the wind... I didn't want to say all that. I've been holding it in.

I'm sorry. :cry:

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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:39 AM
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7. A true progressive would not blame your sons
for doing their duty at the behest of truly evil men. As a democracy, we expect the process to weed out such evil. As you well know, the system has failed us since 2000 and before.

I would refer you to the last few minutes of Fahrenheit 9/11 to see an accurate view of how most of us feel.

Chin up... and f#$k those bastards who say otherwise.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:59 AM
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10. Thanks but many here on
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 03:00 AM by Breeze54
DU still attack the people and the parents of those being deployed; 2 & 3 & 4 times.

Until we ALL know what's going on, I think we all should STFU!

Don't you?
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:40 AM
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14. You Want Us To Wait Until The Rest Of America Wakes Up
to speak? What does that mean?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:24 AM
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16. I think perhaps the request is more about the way we speak of this war
Don't attack the troops. Yes, some of them have done abysmal things, but most have not. This is a corrupt war but most of the warriors are not.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:28 AM
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18. There are (a minority of) idiots on DU who will attack about
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 07:28 AM by hlthe2b
almost anything.... I hope that you can keep that in perspective.... As JCMach1 said, true progressives would never do less than support the troops and the families of those troops.

Less you doubt my assessment of a minority of DUers, there was one frequent poster that indicated DUers who felt love and compassion for their pets or other animals were "fucking stupid." I dare say anyone that would say that, might be among the rare ignorant posters that would attack the family of a troop or marine.


Hang in, Breeze54. Sanity and compassion and true progressivism will prevail.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:36 AM
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13. How can anybody blame you? Or the soldiers for that matter
Joining the guard is a very noble thing to do, the guard does wonderful things. Your son joined before all this terra, terra, terra crap happened.

Your son joined with wonderful intentions. The only one who should have anything like that said to them is the evildoer himself, your most hated and incompetent president and his minions.

I am so sad for the soldiers and the lines of BS that they are being fed and what is being done to them and what they are being ordered to do. They have no choice in the matter.

Hold your head up high Breeze, and don't let the bastards get you down. IMHO, that mod should be banned. I'm glad that it wasn't on this board, and whoever would say such a thing is just a disgusting person. Talk about "support the troops", my ass.

Is you son still deployed? I hope that he came home safe and whole, and I hope that he can get out. You and your son will be in my thoughts.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:05 AM
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15. Most of those people are idiots, you're best off ignoring them
I've seen people here talking about how our soldiers all should end the war by laying down their arms and refusing to fight. I laugh at how little perspective those people have. They should enlist and try it and see where it gets them.

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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:14 AM
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21. "Idiots talk about how soldiers should refuse to fight"
What do you think would happen if a majority of soldiers chose not to fight? The idea doesn't seem like idiocy to me, so I'm wondering why it does to you.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:37 PM
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24. You must know absolutely nothing about how the military works if you think that could happen
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:54 AM
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30. Really? Why don't you tell us what you think would happen if it did
And summarize your credentials for us. Empty sneers are cheap.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:12 AM
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23. We raise our Sons to be mature responsible adults...
Your Son, like mine enlisted without my knowledge or support... Like many young men in 2001, at the age of 19, he joined the Army National Guard... His battalion has been in Iraq 3 times now... My Son was injured in Iraq and he has scar tissue that now prevents him from the full use of both arms...

I consider myself one of the lucky Mothers and I know what you are going through... Remember I am here for you if you need someone....
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:13 PM
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28. There are crazys on each side of the spectrum, both equally disgusting
Fuck them they have no idea what its like going through what you and your family are going through. I hope your sons return to you safe and sound, and are never forced to go back ever again.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:09 AM
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3. I don't think you are white trash
I don't know you, but that's a term I don't use for anyone.

There is no such thing as "JUST a single mom". Anyone who doesn't believe it should try it for a week and get back to us with a little more enlightened viewpoint. If they survive that week, of course.

;)

If anyone here called your children babykillers, I'd like a link. Now. I have plenty to say to them.

If being poor makes you a loser, welcome to the losers club. Other than the not having any money when you need it, it isn't such a bad place to be.

:hi:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:13 AM
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4. Breeze! Come back and tell us what happened!
:grouphug:

Hekate

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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:29 AM
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6. Well, everything you mentioned described my Mother . . .
child of Okies, mother of 4 whom she raised herself (two became veterans), never rich but never embarrassed by it . . . all four children graduated college, but more than that, all learned to live their lives with confidence and respect for others. Yes, truly, it's a Wonderful World, Breeze -- and it starts when we have love for each other. Can't buy that, and it's never found in the trash.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:43 AM
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9. ---
:hug:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:43 AM
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8. Hey, Breeze....
fuck 'em.

You know better.

I know better.

As do we all.

Fuck 'em.

You are as good as it gets.

Tom
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:01 AM
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11. Thanks. n/t
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:51 AM
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17. Can I ask you who your supporting for this election?
Or if you haven't decided or are torn right now between candidates, you don't have to answer if you don't want to.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 03:27 AM
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12. We live near Ft. Knox with its many active Army families.
The community is also full of Army retirees. Talk like you have heard is way, way out of line around here. I'm sorry you have to hear and endure such thoughtless crap. :pals:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:52 AM
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19. Aw jeez, Breeze. .
I am so sorry you've had to listen to that crap. Those of us who can imagine ourselves in your shoes would never, ever hit you with those sticks. "Single Mom" is the hardest job in the world, and poverty is exhausting and demoralizing. And neither condition speaks to character, which you have in abundance.

Chin up, hon. We're with you.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:00 AM
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20. Dear loser poor white trash single mother of baby killers,
See how silly that looks all strung together like that? It's not half as silly as the assumptions made by the people who use those words to insult you.

I agreed with TominTib.
Fuck'em all.
Try to ignore people with brains that are so small and calcified. If you can't ignore them, tell them to grow up.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:09 AM
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29. LOL!
It does look funny all strung together like that.

Hey Breeze--just saw this. Sorry you're feeling down. Here's a :hug: Don't let the small-minded get you down, 'k? :hi:
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:05 AM
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22. Breeze?
:hug:

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:41 PM
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25. Geez! Are tyou posting from the future...from the Repulican national convention?
Give yourself a break, honey!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:47 PM
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26. Well that is crap, whoever said it is a moran.
I hope it was on another forum and not here.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:49 PM
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27. Hey breeze, hang in there
been there, dome that. NO, not a son, but a husband... who was allowed to retire, but was almost stop lossed

Has its advantages to be in the Navy.

There are idiots here, and we both know that.

:hugs:
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