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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:18 PM
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"Bush's War" tonight on PBS FRONTLINE. Set your Tivo's....
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:37 PM
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1. Big super kick for this one. I'll be tuned in for sure. This is the whole package tonight.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:41 PM
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2. k&r -- thanks for the reminder! (nt)
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:06 PM
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3. kick nt
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:22 PM
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4. Thanks for the reminder! nt
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:57 PM
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9. me, too, thanks, I'm hoping this is the last straw to break *'s back & bring down BushCo
well, we can only hope
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:30 PM
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5. 'nother kick...
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:38 PM
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6. Thx, K&R nt
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:45 PM
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7. K&R and thank you for the reminder
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:48 PM
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8. Interview with the producer/journalist Michael Kirk on Fresh Air here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=88764527

In my area, the second part of Bush's War is on tomorrow night, 3-25.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:01 PM
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10. Kick
:kick:


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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:03 PM
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12. OMG, what a face * has. Scary idiot.
:nuke:
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:02 PM
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11. Last kick from me, off to watch. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:03 PM
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13. Kick
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 08:08 PM by malaise
I've always wondered why Powell was out of the country - Bolton was in charge. Makes you wonder!
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pn101 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:10 PM
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14. Seems pretty neutral so far
not sure where it's going. Hmm.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:15 PM
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15. * said, we should think this thing (911) through... too bad he didn't take his own advice
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pn101 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:17 PM
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16. He let Rummy and Darth do all the "thinking"
gotta wonder if those guys were advising him on the 3 oil companies he ran into the toilet.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:55 PM
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24. "Dick Cheney the Moby Dick of the * admin...."
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:21 PM
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29. I think neutral is the best approach..
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:45 AM
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50. That's what I thought too. There's already been numerous films about it
I watched part of it and didn't get anything that isn't common knowledge by now, even among many who don't see themselves as being politically minded.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:20 PM
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17. My blood pressure is already rising.
:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:23 PM
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18. * chooses CIA ahead of the Pentagon (following Poppy's advice)
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:46 PM
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20. FUCK! I'm really starting to get pissed!
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:48 PM
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21. a bunch of dangerous morons running the country
:grr:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:02 PM
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25. I don't think I can watch anymore.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:27 PM
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19. John Yoo decides to give pRes broad constitutional powers, as Cheney/Rummy want
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:51 PM
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22. now that we let OBL go at Tora Bora & botched that, let's go after Iraq!
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 08:51 PM by wordpix
:grr: :puke:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:54 PM
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23. 75,000 pages examined to find a Qaeda-Iraq connection & CIA couldn't find it
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:12 PM
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28. "They didn't look hard enough."
-Dick Cheney
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:09 PM
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26. It's making me extremely nauseous. I don't think I can watch it all.
It's not like I don't know the whole thing was a pack of lies to begin with.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:10 PM
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27. me too, SC
me too.

:cry:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:26 PM
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30. I'm still watching
Shaking my head.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:30 PM
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31. me,too...it's insanity
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:58 PM
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36. Slam Dunk Tenet sells out after finding NO Qaeda connection, no firm WMDs
what a shithead
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:31 PM
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32. I'm watching it online right now.
It's 7:30 here in SeattleLand, and doesn't come on the television machine until 9:00, so I decided not to wait.

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:45 PM
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33. these criminals and witnesses are being interviewed! Bring it on, Congress, IMPEACH!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:47 PM
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34. Their blatant lying absolutely disgusts me.
And the damned Congress and the M$M just let them get away with it! :grr: :grr: :grr:

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:50 PM
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35. Cheney references the NY Times "Saddam WMD" story, the same one he gave the NYT
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 10:14 PM by wordpix
:grr: Thanks, sleeping sheeple media.

The same media that has lately put Iraq in the news 3% of their precious news time.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:02 PM
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37. I'm so sick of the media shirking their responsibility!
99% of them should probably be banned from whatever paper or TV outlet they work for.

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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:27 PM
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38. tonight, the lies. tomorrow night, the incompetence.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:50 PM
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45. ALWAYS the incompetence from this gang of lying criminals. IMPEACH!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:32 PM
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39. Powerful stuff...every American ought to be required to watch this.
Nothing really new in this, certainly not anything that hasn't been posted on DU....but the distillation of the roadmap to war and the level of people who provide the narrative make this must watch TV. No one can refute the underlying point - that Cheney, Rumsfield, and Bush wanted this war and they were willing to fix the facts to support their decision to invade and control their oil reserves (OK, the last charge is mine, but why else would start their illegal and immoral war).

This may provide the documentation to eventually impeach these bastards.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:39 PM
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43. don't forget Wolfowitz, John Yoo, Addington, Gonzo and Libby
Let's bring these people up before CONGRESS and see what they have to say about the office of special plans, wiping their asses with the Geneva Convention, Gitmo and secret prisons :grr:

I'm willing to give them a couple of years off as long as they spill the beans about their puppetmasters.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:49 PM
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57. with Moyers' "Secret Government" as preface!
I watch this frequently, to keep perspective on these criminals and how not to let them GET AWAY WITH IT AGAIN.

The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis
This is the full length 90 min. version of Bill Moyer's 1987 ...
Watch video - 87 min -
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:34 PM
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40. The most truthful analysis...
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 10:36 PM by roamer65
of this fiasco I have so far seen on American teevee. This should be required viewing for all.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:41 PM
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56. I agree, but ...
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 08:43 PM by screembloodymurder
It does a great job explaining the how. But, it ignores the why. Why did Cheney want to take out Saddam and then leave? If we went in to occupy why didn't they have more troops? It doesn't make sense.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:35 PM
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41. I just emailed the link to my daughter so that she and my SIL can
watch it online. They don't have a television, but thank goodness they can still see this.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:36 PM
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42. We missed the first hour but the rest was enough
Yes, I know the cost of the war so far, but what really enraged me was the treatment of the "detainees" at Guantanamo. And they are still there, still without trial or indictment.

Part II is tomorrow.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:46 PM
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44. "...in beautiful, sunny Guantanao Bay, Cuba."
:wtf:

I don't know what the hell these bastards are drinking or smoking, but whatever it is, it should be banned. :grr:

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:50 PM
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47. they drank the koolaid
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:50 PM
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46. I was bothered by the footage of America before the war.
Just a scene of the city streets with the narrator talking about America just before the war... It is eerie to remember how much better things were then. There was no war. Then there was one.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:53 PM
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48. there didn't need to be a war, not even in Afghanistan. BushCheneyRumdum could have
gotten OBL and al Qaeda at Tora Bora if they knew what they weren't looking the other way at the oil in Iraq. Greedy bastards.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:37 AM
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49. Every single war cabinet member should be arrested and tried for war crimes.
These criminals make me sick.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:47 AM
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51. I only caught some toward the end - is the PNAC explored earlier on?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:49 AM
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52. it goes much much deeper than that
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/

It may be the most important television show ever aired.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:36 AM
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53. Sorry, if the PNAC isn't also explored in detail, it immediately loses credibility imo
Thanks for the link!
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:56 PM
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54. No mention of PNAC.
No mention of Bush's evesdropping BEFORE 9/11 either.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:11 PM
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55. W/O PNAC there is no motive.
It's a remarkable program, but it lacks the motive. What drove Cheney to push for the war?
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