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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:41 PM
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Is Political Vandalism Wrong?
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=11128March 19th, 2008 4:55 pm
Vandals break door, spray-paint graffiti on recruiting center

MILWAUKEE (AP) - U.S. Army officials are repairing vandalism damage inflicted on an Army recruiting center.

Sometime Monday night or Tuesday, vandals damaged the glass of the front door and spray-painted graffiti across the front windows.

The messages, scrawled in white spray paint, read, "5 yrs too many," "Expect resistance" and "War is offensive!"

Wednesday marks the fifth anniversary of the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

U.S. Army spokeswoman Sara Micka says no one was hurt but the windows have been boarded up and the center closed until at least Thursday.

Exactly one year ago at the same office, protesters set off smoke bombs, tossed paint and broke outer windows. According to jail booking logs, the attack led to 21 arrests.

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Angela Shelley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:45 PM
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1. Vandalism is a form of theft.
... and high interest rates are usury

... and the military occupation of another country is a crime.


what goes around, comes around.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:46 PM
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2. Compared to what?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:47 PM
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3. As a rule, yes.
I think this is pretty simple quite frankly.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:47 PM
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4. Yes, it is.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:48 PM
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5. It's less wrong than the Iraq War.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm willing to commit crimes to end this war. Yes, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet, or spray paint a few doors, or get yourself arrested, or otherwise commit acts of civil disobedience, because the world really, really needs this omelet.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:49 PM
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7. Problem is when extreme behavior discredits the broader opposition to the war.
When people see extreme behavior on one end, they react against it.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:48 PM
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6. Of course it is.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:51 PM
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8. By the responses here I guess some folks would have those nasty TEA PARTYERS
IN JAIL


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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:51 PM
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9. Not something I'd participate in.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:52 PM
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10. The BFEE's war is politcal vandalism
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 12:53 PM
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11. Wrong maybe, illegal yes. Helpful? I doubt it. /nt
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:08 PM
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12. NO weapon in the arsenal should be automatically ruled out of play.
Whether it is effective is debatable. But the tactic can and should be used.
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:25 PM
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13. Does this mean that if when in power
we are confronted with political discourse up to and including vandalism that we can use any means needed to quell it??

How far are you willing to go if the shoe is on the other foot?

Of course this action is folly and does our side no good, except give RW talker and such more ammo to beat us over the head with.

Have we learned nothing from 40 years ago??

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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 01:26 PM
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14. So pro-lifers would be justified in vandalizing Planned Parenthood?
I don't agree with your post at all.
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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:25 PM
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15. If it is
against the law, then it's wrong.
We don't need to be branded as 'vandals and lawbreakers', there are alternative ways.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:37 PM
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16. Define vandalism. If breaking things, spray painting things, burning things, yes
If those things don't belong to the breaker, burner, sprayer. There are ways of doing Protest Art that does not include destruction of property.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:42 PM
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17. Agreed. Well stated.
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CRF450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:48 PM
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18. Yes it is.
If anyone was to vandalize my gas guzzler of a truck (which I do use for work) over a political, environmental message, I would call for the arrest of those who did it, and they will pay for any damages thats done. I dont care who you are, you just dont fuck with other peoples property
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