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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:44 AM
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It's not our 'freedom' they hate us for.
A German man named Jurgen Todenhofer has bought 3 pages in the NYT to try and explain why they hate us to his thick-headed American brothers.
From the first paragraphs:

In his major work Democracy in America,
published in 1835, Tocqueville made a
remark that characterized the era: "If we
reasoned from what passes in the world,
we should almost say that the European is
to the other races of man as man is to the
lower animals; he makes them
subservient to his use; and when he cannot
subdue, he destroys them. For the liberal
thinker there was consequently no reason
to treat Muslim subjects as if they were
equal to us.

And that is precisely how the West has
treated the Muslim world for the past
200 years. During the colonial period Arab
families were hunted like hyenas, jackals
and mangy foxes. The strategy the 19thcentury
colonial rulers adopted to break
resistance to their civilizing mission was
to ruin, hunt, terrorize (Olivier Le Cour
Grandmaison, French historian). In Algeria
entire tribes that had sought refuge in
caves were smoked out (enfumades).
The French colonel Lucien-Franois de
Montagnac wrote in a letter from Algeria
in 1842: We kill, we strangle. The cries of
the desperate and dying mingle with the
noise of the bellowing, bleating livestock.
You ask me what we do with the women.
Well, we keep some as hostages, others we
exchange for horses, the rest are auctioned
like cattle In order to banish the thoughts
that sometimes besiege me, I have some
heads cut off, not the heads of artichokes
but the heads of men.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:49 AM
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1. Woops. Dupe. Sorry.
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:39 AM
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2. Wow, thanks for the post.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:49 AM
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3. Underground rapper Mr. Lif got it right in "Home of the Brave" (warning: explicit lyrics)
Mr. Lif - Home Of The Brave Lyrics

Now let's talk about self expression, true expression
Open your minds without question
No doubt, tell me what you're thinking about
Let's try to set aside pride and clout
Can you believe I feel the same exact way you do?
You truly do believe these modern ways have fooled you
Systems exist so we never meet each other
Pretty soon from now that I'll long the word "brother"
And that's true if they see you walking with a crew
If you don't know, that means more than two
I'll tell you what they'll do
They'll pull over, hunt you over
Kick your ass, nightstick to your shoulder
I know it's unjust, as if it wasn't enough
If you try to fight back they're locking your ass up
And Chuck already told you that a cell is hell
But I'm waiting for the phone so I'll sit for a spell
Call the guard, tell him I'm a piece of God
With no beliefs in his streets or his boulevards
I eat, read so my mental is hard
And the heat from my anger just melted the bars
They reach for their guns so I put them to sleep
Break the chains and put the shoes back on my feet
He's on the loose with no discernible scars or marks
Just the mind of Mandela and the heart of Rosa Parks
So I dip, time to see the governor and mayor
Tell them life ain't fair and see if they care
Well they do, but only if they are the heir
So they appear to have a heart and make a flair
But they haven't done shit for us and that's a fact
Their only function is to keep the funny money where it's at
And it causes pain, stress
Ask me if we need a different way of life (yes)

Headline: Bush steals the presidency
He needs the backing of the media what could the remedy be?
The country's headed for recession reminiscent of the Great Depression
Are lives worth a world of power? Easy question
Planes hit the towers and the Pentagon
Killing those the government wasn't dependant on
It's easy to control the scared so they keep us in fear
With their favorite Middle Eastern demon named Bin Laden this year
Bush disguises blood lust as patriotism
Convincing the living to love "Operation Let's Get 'Em"
But when he realized we don't support their attacks
They needed something to distract, hmm, anthrax
This further demonizes Afghanis
So Americans cheer while we kill their innocent families
And what better place to start a war
To build a pipeline to get the oil that they had wanted before
America supported the Taliban
To get Russia out of Afghanistan
That's how they got the arms in
They're in a war against the Northern Alliance
And we can't build a pipeline in hostile environments
Here's what your history books won't show:
You're a dead man for fucking with American dough
They killed several birds with one stone
While you're at home with anti-terrorism up in your dome
But my eyes are wide open and my TV is off
Great, 'cause I save on my electricity cost
And you can wave that piece of shit flag if you dare
But they killed us because we've been killing them for years
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:32 PM
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4. Oh yeah?
But Americans think we are free to attack anybody who dares get in the way of our national interests, and that 'freedom' is what they hate about us.

Me too.
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