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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:03 PM
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Just a reminder of dems vs Repigs
Repigs started screaming impeachment what was it, an hour after the Spitzer revelation? So he was not faithful to his wife, and technically broke the law... but they were on it.

Our people in congress have placed impeachment off the table, never mind what our President has done is not only impeachable but quite possibly treason

How did they get Elliot Spitzer? And is this going on at all levels? Or our people "soft on crime" or extremely naive?

Regardless, this will be on people's minds come November... no, not the details... Elliot Spitzer is the first salvo.

Oh and one more thing... Elliot Spitzer has resigned... New York still has a working government... the resignation of Admiral Fallon is a little more worrisome, since he was the only person holding the watch against going to war against Iran.

Just wanted to point these things out.

Now go back to discussing racism, and he did it, no she did it, as GD-P is doing, while they prepare to permanently take over the US Government.

What you saw this week is a preview of coming attractions. You wanna bet the next Dem president, assuming we have elections and he \ she is sworn in, will be impeached. Not a matter of why, but when.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:06 PM
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1. Some people understand power
but they are not democrats
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:07 PM
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2. Correct and though technically they are repigs, they are truly fascists
and that is what people need to understand
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:24 PM
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4. not all of them are facists
since some of them want the power for themselves alone
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:23 PM
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3. kick
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:25 PM
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5. I share your concern. The ante has just been upped and nobody noticed.
I'm glad I'm not young any more.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:11 PM
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6. Beltway Dems are pathologically reluctant to accuse and label. . .
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 06:17 PM by pat_k
They subscribe to the wrong-headed notion that they should be "above personal attack."

To be a hero you must identify and go after the villains -- personally. Without "personal attack" there are no heroes.

While Republicans tend to be overzealous when it comes to accusing and going after officials they label "wrong-doers," Democrats are pathologically reluctant to label, much less "go after," officials who are openly, even proudly, abusing power.

Instead of going after perpetrators, the so-called "leadership" tells us they will "fix" the system to "make sure" it doesn't happen again. Although some of our so-called "leaders" have learned to use the rhetoric of "accountability," to date, the single-minded focus on "repairing the damage" rather than stopping it and holding the perpetrators personally accountable, has prevailed.

We charged Congress with the duty to oversee (i.e., to police; to supervise) officials in the executive and judiciary. The Congressional enforcement duties, and the ultimate enforcement power, impeachment, are far more critical to the preservation of our government that the legislative function. Without enforcement, legislation is meaningless.

Why bother appointing an "overseer" to simply "watch" as corrupt officials destroy the fabric of our government? It is lunacy to stand by and watch the destroyers destroy while you plan how to "rebuild" the ever-expanding devastation.

Criminals don't destroy the civil order. Only the failure of the enforcers can do that. Corrupt officials don't destroy a government. Only the failure of those we charge with stopping corrupt people can do that.

Contrary to conventional wisdom, the "weak Dem" image has nothing to do with national security policy. It is their refusal to fight for principle, win or lose, that has earned them the "weak Dem" image. It is their aversion to accusation and punishment ("personal attack") -- that has earned them their "soft on crime" reputation.

Another contributor to the "weak Dem" image is the knee jerk aversion to "black and white thinking" that is so prevalent on "our side." Sometimes things really are black and white. Sometimes there is no middle ground; sometimes it really is "with us or against us."

When our "leaders" refuse acknowledge black and white realities they sound muddled and morally confused. They earn the label "moral relativist."

The reality of our current crisis is black and white. The choice that confronts each and every member of Congress is simple. Duty or dereliction. Defend American Principle or Fascist Principle. Tolerate the intolerable or unequivocally reject it by demanding impeachment and removal. Condemn torture or condone it by refusing to do anything capable of stopping the torturers.

As long as they refuse to impeach it is impossible to put our national predicament in the stark terms demanded by reality. Impeachment would turn the eyes of the nation to Congress. Members would be forced to make the black and white choice in the spotlight. Who knows? With the eyes of the nation on Congress Bush and Cheney may be shocked to find that too few are willing to defend them to save their asses.

Whatever the outcome, every single member who votes for impeachment, and every single member of the Senate who votes to remove, will be breaking their bonds of complicity.

They would make their judgment and cast their votes, and then it would be our turn to judge them with OUR votes.
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