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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:17 AM
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Oscar winners, none US born
Javier Barden - best supporting actor - Spain

Tilda Swinton - best supporting actress - the UK

Daniel Day-Lewis - best actor - the UK

Marion Cotillard - best actress - France

Interesting.

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:19 AM
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1. What about the producers and directors? (nt)
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:22 AM
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4. Coen brothers are from Minnesota

as is Diablo Cody, who wrote Juno.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:20 AM
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2. The Governor of Cahleefoooornia isn't Merkan born either. nt
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:23 AM
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5. I don't think that he ever won any Oscar
for any role. Perhaps as the groper in chief.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:18 PM
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45. I know, but he's a US governor. nt
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:20 AM
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3. Well, we will surely remember them for like
30 minutes................:eyes: That just stinks!
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:26 AM
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6. I've never heard of any of them, except DD Lewis and I'm pretty
sure I could not pick him out in a crowd. Haven't seen any of those movies but read that old men book and found it disgusting, gory and chauvinistic.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:34 AM
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17. There wasn't anything chauvanistic in the movie, that I can think of.
Wasn't all that gory either. Are you sure you're thinking of the same book?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:36 AM
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29. "That just stinks!"
Why? Why does the fact that four, wildly talented artists who gave amazing performances and were rewarded by the film community for their work "stink"?

Art has no nationality.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:26 AM
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7. All nominated Best Films were foreign, too.
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 01:26 AM by Maddy McCall
If I heard the news correctly.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:30 AM
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9. Well I know I had a much better time than folks sitting
home watching the Foreign Film Awards.


I saw President Clinton tonight!. Up front.....great! I'll post pictures tomorrow.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:32 AM
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10. Will you PM me the link to the thread after you post it?
I've got to teach a couple of classes tomorrow, so I won't be around much...Please PM me the link.

Pretty please.

:hi:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:45 AM
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11. Sure. I work tomorrow too.
Technically, I'm on vacation thru March 5th due to the Ohio election and there is other work to do....but, I have to go in tomorrow to the clinic. So, it will tomorrow evening. I also just bought this camera today and need to work on the download. It's a Sony Cybershot and looks easy enough.

You are going to faint at how close I was the entire time. When he ended, went down the fence line,he hugged me and squeezed my hand ever so gently, and hugged Brooke the 10 year old. Yes! No bath tonight!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:50 AM
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13. I LOVE your signature.
LOL!

I look forward to seeing your thread tomorrow night!
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:49 AM
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38. WTF?
Weird to see such a blatant xenophobe posting on DU...
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:45 AM
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35. No. None of them were.
The five nominated films were produced by US companies: Fox, Warner, Paramount/Miramax and Focus (a division of NBC Universal).
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:27 AM
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8. its that damned outsourcing!
Damn the NAFTA!
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:46 AM
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12. Is that a bad thing?
I ask because people usually say "interesting" when they mean they disapprove.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:29 AM
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25. You noticed that too?
On the morning news and even here on DU, people are saying that like it is some kind of bad thing. :eyes:

I didn't even make that connection when I watched the awards last night -- I just saw four incredibly talented artists being recognized for their work. :shrug:

Last time I checked, talent and artistry knows no state boundaries...

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:30 PM
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41. No, not at all
However in DU, often words tend to be analyzes and interpreted in many different ways.

I should have remembered to add my often cautious note: just observing, don't flame..

:shrug:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:57 AM
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14. Why?
Lots of American films sweep awards every year. Does that mean anything about the nationals in those countries?

We still have among the best filmmakers and actors in the world. One would hope that art would be above prejudice
but it's so often not the case. The Oscars at least attempt to award quality and not nationality.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:13 AM
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15. it couldn't have anything to do with the UTTER CRAP coming out of Hollywood these days?
When you have movies called Balls of Fury, or other such *cerebral* fare -- what can you expect? It's either body count horror flicks, fearmongering UBER-male ultra-violent fairy tales, or insipidly stupid movies that gets produced in LA. Or a third or fourth re-make of something that wasn't good the first time around. And don't even get me started on *gag* Disney productions.

Even the *Best Picture* winner was total crap. :shrug:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:56 AM
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22. Probably not
Was there ever a year when Hollywood only made good movies? No.

There have ALWAYS been bad, dumb, low-brow movies. The fact that four acting awards went to Europeans doesn't tell us anything - except of "La Vie en Rose", the films for which they won were American films.

And I thought the Best Picture winner was a pretty good movie.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:49 AM
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37. given that all of the best picture nominees were hollywood movies, I'd guess not
If Hollywood is so pitiful, why do these great foreign born actors flock here to make movies?
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:19 AM
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16. If there where ever a reason to build a wall around the nation - this is it!
:silly:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:54 AM
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18. They aren't really just "American" films anymore. They're internationally marketed
and filmed all over the world, too. The HQ is Hollywood, but the customers are all over the world. And the actors come from all over, as well.

It's been years since "foreign" actors like, oh, David Niven and Sophia Loren, were sorta "exotic."

It's interesting that there isn't even one American, though--this might be the first time that's ever happened. Probably is!
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:35 AM
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19. Even the Oscars are now OUTSOURCED! Yikes....
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:12 AM
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20. Lawrence of Arabia -1963
Winners - place of birth

Art Direction: UK
Cinematography: UK
Director: UK
Editing: UK
Music: France
Picture: Poland
Sound: UK

Nominees:

Actor: UK
Supporting actor: Egypt
Screenplay: UK & US. Because he was blacklisted, Michael Wilson (US)wasn't acknowledged as a nominee until 1995.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:35 PM
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42. This is one movie
which is different from four different ones.

And I don't know why a casual observation has to be blown into a flaming war here.

Perhaps I should have reposted Peggy Noonan's opinion about Michelle Obama. At least there would be a reason for a real fire.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:53 AM
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21. Can't get enough of those imports
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:57 AM
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23. Lou Dobbs is absolutly going to shit!
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:07 AM
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24. Last time this happened was 1965.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:33 AM
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26. Daniel Day-Lewis is UKian?
I would have thought he was definitely from the US. Never noticed a trace of accent in the man.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:36 AM
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28. Yes! See here:
Day-Lewis was born in London, the son of actress Jill Balcon and the Anglo-Irish Poet Laureate Cecil Day-Lewis. Day-Lewis has dual British-Irish citizenship.<2><3> His mother, who comes from a Jewish family, is the daughter of Sir Michael Balcon, who was the former head of Ealing Studios.<4><5> Two years after his birth in London, the Day-Lewis family moved to Croom's Hill, Greenwich, where Daniel grew up along with his older sister, Tamasin Day-Lewis, who later became a documentary filmmaker and television chef. Cecil Day-Lewis was already 53 years old at the time of his son's birth, and seemed to take little interest in his children.<6> Following frequent health problems, he died when Daniel was 15. Daniel felt unsettled about his lack of emotion, and regretted not having been closer to his father.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Day_Lewis
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:47 AM
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36. Then who the hell is the African American guy I'm thinking of?
Damn, that's annoying when I get names fucked up.

Isn't there an African-American actor with a name similar to Daniel Day Lewis? Or have I just always assumed that DDL was an African American?

Damn.

Hollywood should only allow five new actors each year, so that I can actually keep track of shit.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:40 AM
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32. He does a pretty impeccible American accent...
but his natural speaking voice features a very beautiful Irish accent. I think he is one of the most talented actors working in films today.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:38 PM
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43. He does have an interesting voice
When I first heard an ad for his movie I was thinking of "The Gangs of New Yorks." Was not sure whether it was the same actor until I heard his voice.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:35 AM
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27. there are no talented Americans anymore
we all suck


we're too busy arguing over which corporate spokesperson to "elect" in November to do any actual work.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:41 PM
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46. What about Tobey Maguire?
Didn't he win something for Spider-Man 3? Best action scene involving a bodily fluid or something?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:39 AM
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30. Good. Maybe the Americans will be forced to produce some decent movies.
Ones not based on "targeting" people who are most likely to spend a lot of money for crap.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:50 AM
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39. the movies featuring the best actor/actress winners were almost all produced by US companies
And all five best picture nominees were produced by US companies.

Sorry that reality doesn't fit with your meme.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:10 PM
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40. While the actors were from abroad
All but one of the nominated best pix were American films.

My favorite winner of the night, Tilda Swinton, who is the best and I've loved her since her Jarman films of yore. St Derek would be proud.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:39 AM
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31. Great American films will follow Bushco's departure
from the WH. Bushco has stifled free speech and creativity.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:41 AM
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33. It seems
Like the Academy gets into these sort of grooves. For whatever reason they love UK actresses and this seems like they love themes. Lucky for the US a good solid exotic dancer was able to pulled down a writing award (as a mean spirited shot at writers for the strike?). Who knows, along with best song she was the only person you actually pulled for.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:43 AM
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34. Of the four, the only performance from a non US...
FILM was "L' Vien Rose", all the rest were the products of Hollywood.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:44 PM
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44. Slight correction "La Vie en Rose," meaning "life in pink"
You have to keep the "en" separate, not that we always keep our "in" separate, either..

:hi:
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:44 PM
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47. Those Countries
Subsidize the arts.
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