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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:45 PM
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9 PAGES of foreclosures in our local paper today.
That's more than 3 times the "normal" amount of foreclosure listings.

All of those extra homes on the market will make it harder for everyone to sell their homes, which means prices will drop further, which means more mortgages worth more than the value of the homes, which means more foreclosures.

We are TRAPPED in a downward spiral, and there are still very few people acknowledging the extent of the problem.

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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:46 PM
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1. where are you located?
just curious...
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:48 PM
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2. Connecticut. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:48 PM
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3. Manchester CN
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:49 PM
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4. spiral? - it moves to bank owned and a sale for perhaps 10% less than current market
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:55 PM
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5. Or an auction at 50 cents on the dollar
That's what's been happening in some markets in Florida.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:57 PM
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6. Are you a Real Estate agent? That's the most moronic thing I have heard.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:03 PM
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7. And what would being a real estate agent have to do with the analysis. It's sound. Nobody is buying
and especially not at just 10% below market.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:05 PM
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8. If I read him right, he is denying a spiral, and the said house would take a 10% hit only.
Look at the link....This is just Countrywides repo sheet.
http://www.streamfx.com/CW/2-12-2008/REO-Connecticut.html
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:18 PM
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10. In some areas banks can't sell them at any price. I've heard the term "Death Spiral".
The "current market" has plunged downward in some areas by 40%. That means sellers have to come up with $10s of thousands just to pay off their mortgage in addition to whatever they can sell for. I was talking to a financial analyst at one of the Wall Street ratings agencies, who said the term being thrown around her office is "Death Spiral." There has never been anything like this, and it is far from bottom yet. I know one person who was forced to move and was happy to find a renter for $900 a month of her $1400 a month mortgage/tax/insurance/homeowners' association fees. That was 18 months ago, and now the owner, on the advice of a bankruptcy atty., is just going to walk away from the property. If the mortgage holder wants to avoid the $50,000 cost of foreclosure, the owner will offer to trade title just to walk away (a short sale). The atty. said in some areas of the country, the banks are not even pursuing foreclosures. I guess it's because it would cost the banks $50,000 to foreclose and then the bank would have title to a worthless and depreciating house.

There have been threads on DU reflecting what has happened in many areas, from suburbs of Cleveland to ground zero for the housing bust in Ft. Myers, FL. When there are multiple empty and abandoned homes/condo/townhouse units in any neighborhood, no one will buy there. Yards are overgrown, vandalism is unchecked, etc. And I'm talking about homes with purchase prices of $200,000 and up. Prospective buyers rightly anticipate that prices will continue to plunge, sucking in those remaining homeowners who got traditional fixed rate mortgages, but are forced to sell due to retirement, illness, death of the family member living in the house, etc., and forcing more into foreclosures when they can't find a buyer.

Local governments in some areas have begun to hire people to mow lawns in some of the higher end housing areas in desperate hopes to keep the markets from completely dying, because then there are no property taxes to be collected from these properties.

Recent court cases have thrown out attempts to foreclose because the in the bundling, reselling, and sale of "slivers" of bundled mortgages, the financial institutions have not bothered to execute the necessary legal documents re who owns what portion of what mortgages.

I helped my elderly Mom sell her home about 4 years ago, and that money financed her assisted living/nursing home stay until her death. It was lucky timing. Some elderly cannot stay in their homes because they need personal care. But if their only asset is their home, and they cannot sell it - the ownership will keep them for qualifying for Medicaid necessary to pay for nursing home care.

Very tough times for many, many people.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 03:59 PM
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15. I just looked up the house I walked away from over 2 years ago and it's
been reduced 40% and is still on the market.

Maybe they should have worked with me...



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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:10 PM
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9. A local bank here in So Cal has a sign in the window
inviting people to come on in and look at their list of foreclosed properties - something I've never seen before. And yet people will continue to vote for repukes. It boggles the mind.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:20 PM
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11. Coming soon...Nationwide.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 03:06 PM
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12. Holy shit!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 03:24 PM
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13. We were looking for a new home when this all began...
Looks like we are stuck for a while. We could buy, but no way our house would sell for what it is worth,
given all the foreclosures on newer homes nearby.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 03:30 PM
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14. I was thinking of moving
but I don't think I'll be trying that now. I don't think it's as bad here (Montgomery County MD) as other areas of the country and I'd be moving to a cheaper area but it makes me nervous to try to sell when I don't desperately need to (such as getting a job in another area). I'd like a shorter commute to work but I'm going against traffic so it's not that bad.
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